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    Default NFL BANS Kneeling During Anthem

    I might start watching again... IDK...

    New policy requires on-field players, personnel to stand for anthem


    ATLANTA -- NFL owners have unanimously approved a new national anthem policy that requires players to stand if they are on the field during the performance but gives them the option to remain in the locker room if they prefer, it was announced Wednesday.


    The policy subjects teams to a fine if a player or any other team personnel do not show respect for the anthem. That includes any attempt to sit or kneel, as dozens of players have done during the past two seasons to protest racial inequality and police brutality. Those teams also will have the option to fine any team personnel, including players, for the infraction.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...-anthem-policy

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    Political correctness

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
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    More like damage control... stop the financial hemorrhaging.

    Businesses tend to take such measures when facing bankruptcy.

    The NFL is a business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
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    Fine. Reinstate the clippers owner sterling then.

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    Sitting or kneeling during the anthem while the cameras are rolling is an attempt to manipulate the public, no more, no less. And at least 10% of NFL fans say screw that, I don’t want to be manipulated.

    Go find a job where your boss and your customers don’t care if you disrespect the symbol of our country.
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    Why are these "upright" Politically Correct* <Ugh! I hate that term!> entertainers not protesting real injustice?

    How about protesting blacks killing blacks in Chicago, St. Louis, Baltimore and scores of other cities?
    Why are they not protesting hispanic gangs killing each other other in LA, San Diego and along the SW border?

    Oh...those are all FINE! It is when LE does it that it is not 'fine'. Kind of blind aren't they?

    * Politically Corrupt is more like it
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    A Deplorable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Sitting or kneeling during the anthem while the cameras are rolling is an attempt to manipulate the public, no more, no less. And at least 10% of NFL fans say screw that, I don’t want to be manipulated.

    Go find a job where your boss and your customers don’t care if you disrespect the symbol of our country.
    And if the NFL was serious about protecting the sanctity of the Anthem, they would simply refuse to show the disrespect - like when fans streak on the field.

    I suspect the NFL thought it was cool and progressive and then after the backlash pretended they weren't, what is tantamount to, promoting the kneeling.


    Nevermind the fact the kneelers are kneeling for something that doesnt exist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Sitting or kneeling during the anthem while the cameras are rolling is an attempt to manipulate the public, no more, no less. And at least 10% of NFL fans say screw that, I don’t want to be manipulated.

    Go find a job where your boss and your customers don’t care if you disrespect the symbol of our country.
    "Manipulating" the public is what peaceful protest are about.
    But because it's hoped to help change a situation does that mean that it's not sincere?

    When the Vets marched on Washington after WW1 and set up camps in DC, it was to "MANIPULATE" the gov't and the people into fulfilling it's obligation.

    The fact that they camped out there didn't mean that some of them weren't homeless and would have had to camp SOMEWHERE anyway.

    Bottom line seems to me is that some folks just don't like it. They are horrified by the concept. And they can't bear to see it. (but don't seem to have any horror or outrage over innocent dead people at the hands of police)

    Just like some folks didn't want to see Tim Tibow pray, or display the various bible verses over the years. And Folks wanted to run the DUCK guys off TV, and shut down the Christian real estate brothers TV shows and the Christian Real Estate Flipper couple.

    IMO both sides have become snowflake filled. And rather than have REAL freedoms of speech, they both just want to simply run off anyone that "offends" them. Banish them from public view and out of work.

    Grown adults Left and Right, neither seem to be able bear 30 secs of a contrary opinion. Or sincerely manage to tolerate being in the presence others expressing their beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    "Manipulating" the public is what peaceful protest are about.
    But because it's hoped to help change a situation does that mean that it's not sincere?

    When the Vets marched on Washington after WW1 and set up camps in DC, it was to "MANIPULATE" the gov't and the people into fulfilling it's obligation.

    The fact that they camped out there didn't mean that some of them weren't homeless and would have had to camp SOMEWHERE anyway.

    Bottom line seems to me is that some folks just don't like it. They are horrified by the concept. And they can't bear to see it. (but don't seem to have any horror or outrage over innocent dead people at the hands of police)
    Nobody has horror or outrage over the white men and women killed by police. That's part of the issue.

    IMO both sides have become snowflake filled. And rather than have REAL freedoms of speech, they both just want to simply run off anyone that "offends" them. Banish them from public view and out of work.

    Grown adults Left and Right, neither seem to be able bear 30 secs of a contrary opinion. Or sincerely manage to tolerate being in the presence others expressing their beliefs.
    About right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    "Manipulating" the public is what peaceful protest are about.
    But because it's hoped to help change a situation does that mean that it's not sincere?

    When the Vets marched on Washington after WW1 and set up camps in DC, it was to "MANIPULATE" the gov't and the people into fulfilling it's obligation.

    The fact that they camped out there didn't mean that some of them weren't homeless and would have had to camp SOMEWHERE anyway.

    Bottom line seems to me is that some folks just don't like it. They are horrified by the concept. And they can't bear to see it. (but don't seem to have any horror or outrage over innocent dead people at the hands of police)

    Just like some folks didn't want to see Tim Tibow pray, or display the various bible verses over the years. And Folks wanted to run the DUCK guys off TV, and shut down the Christian real estate brothers TV shows and the Christian Real Estate Flipper couple.

    IMO both sides have become snowflake filled. And rather than have REAL freedoms of speech, they both just want to simply run off anyone that "offends" them. Banish them from public view and out of work.

    Grown adults Left and Right, neither seem to be able bear 30 secs of a contrary opinion. Or sincerely manage to tolerate being in the presence others expressing their beliefs.
    There is a difference between standing on a street corner with a sign, and forcing an audience tuned in to watch a sporting event to see you disrespecting the symbol of our country. If you don’t see that, I give up.

    As for Tebow, etc., I get that Christianphobics hate representations of Christianity. Since we aren’t all Christian, I feel sad and move on. But we are all American. And we all owe a debt we cannot repay to those who fought under that flag.

    Rev, I think you need to take off your “I’m against authority” glasses and try to judge each case on its merits. Sometimes, believe it or not, authority is actually ok, and law enforcement, whether police or TSA agents, is a positive thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
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    ......Getting its ass - kicked with reality and common sense.......



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    Guess a compromise is better than nothing.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Guess a compromise is better than nothing.
    I'd be willing to bet more conservatives watch the NFL than liberals. So why the NFL thought it was OK to allow players to piss on the flag and national anthem was beyond me.

    I guess sometimes they just have to learn the hard way.

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    I realize this is not going to be a popular opinion on this matter, but...


    I don't agree with the decision. Let them kneel if they so choose.


    Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with them kneeling, but I do believe it's their right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I realize this is not going to be a popular opinion on this matter, but...


    I don't agree with the decision. Let them kneel if they so choose.


    Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with them kneeling, but I do believe it's their right.
    Well... the NFL is in the business of making money. Any business is going to curtail something it's employees are doing if it's costing them money.

    Say someone owns a restaurant and their wait staff was telling people to piss off, well that restaurant owner is going to tell them not to do that anymore.

    Really doesn't have anything to do with rights at that point. The people have all the right in the world to tell people to piss off, just not at work. NFL players are at work. I think the NFL has every right to tell them to stand or pay up or go somewhere else.

    That's my two cents.

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