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    Default Iran pressures europe to speed up plans to save nuclear deal

    VIENNA - Major powers and Iran agreed on Friday to move quickly to offset the U.S. pullout from its nuclear deal and Washington's renewed sanctions, with Tehran pressuring Europe to come up with a package of economic measures by May 31.

    The 2015 agreement between Iran and world powers lifted international sanctions on Tehran. In return, Iran agreed to restrictions on its nuclear activities, increasing the time it would need to produce an atom bomb if it chose to do so.

    Since President Donald Trump withdrew the United States this month, calling the agreement deeply flawed, European states have been scrambling to ensure Iran gets enough economic benefits to persuade it to stay in the deal.

    But this has proven difficult, with many European firms alarmed at the specter of far-reaching U.S. financial penalties.

    Nations that remain in the deal - Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia - held a formal meeting on Friday without the United States for the first time since Trump's announcement, but diplomats saw limited scope for salvaging the agreement.

    "For the time being we are negotiating... to see if they can provide us with a package which can actually give Iran the benefits of sanctions-lifting and then the next step is to find guarantees for that package," Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi told reporters after the meeting.

    The talks between senior officials aimed at fleshing out the package of measures to keep oil and investments flowing.

    Those measures include banning EU-based firms from complying with the reimposed U.S. sanctions, urging governments to make transfers to Iran's central bank to avoid fines and creating alternative financing channels.

    "We expect the (economic) package to be given to us by the end of May," a senior Iranian official said earlier, adding that Tehran was "weeks" away from deciding whether to quit the pact.

    European measures would need to ensure that oil exports did not halt, and that Iran would still have access to the SWIFT international bank payments messaging system, he said.

    A senior EU official said the participants had stressed on Friday that the package would not be immediate.

    "We made it very clear today that there are things that will take more time," the official said.

    Foreign ministers of the remaining countries will meet in the coming weeks.

    COLD SHOWER

    Washington has not only reimposed sanctions but started to make them even tighter. U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo threatened Iran on Monday with "the strongest sanctions in history" if it did not change its behavior in the Middle East.

    "Pompeo was like taking a cold shower," said a European diplomat. "We'll try to cling to the deal, but... we're under no illusions."

    Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei set out conditions on Wednesday for Iran to stay in the deal: unless Europe guarantees Iran's oil sales will not suffer, Tehran would resume enrichment activities that are currently prohibited. The deal lets Iran enrich but under tight restrictions.

    "We were very clear we can’t give guarantees but we can create the necessary conditions for the Iranians to keep benefiting from the sanctions-lifting under the JCPOA (the nuclear deal) and to protect our interests and continue to develop legitimate business with Iran," the EU official said.

    Iran has so far benefited less from the accord than it had initially hoped, partly because of remaining U.S. sanctions that have deterred major Western investors from doing business with Tehran. Some Western companies have already quit Iran or said they may have to leave because of the new U.S. sanctions.

    Trump denounced the accord, completed under his predecessor Barack Obama, because it did not cover Iran's ballistic missile program or its role in Middle East wars, or address the issue of what happens after the deal begins to expire in 2025.

    Khamenei rejected any new negotiations over Iran's ballistic missile program or its regional activities.

    European nations share some U.S. concerns but say that torpedoing the nuclear deal makes it far harder to address them. They have said that as long as Tehran meets its commitments, they will stick to the deal.

    The U.N. nuclear watchdog, which polices the pact, says Iran continues to comply with its terms.. (Additional reporting by Parisa Hafezi in Ankara, editing by Mark Heinrich and Gareth Jones)
    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Ir...ar-deal-558397

    The major powers of the World minus us, letting one, backwards-assed, shithole dictate to them. I'm so f-n impressed A couple are our allies?

    Khomeini refuses to budge on his missile program so f- him. I hope he catches whatever has Abbas hospitalized.
    My quota of bullshit cop outs from closed minds is full today, Tomorrow's not looking good for you either.

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    So Iran's leaders are saying, "Somebody stop me!" from proceeding with their nuclear program in exchange for guarantees of a quick infusion of cash. Hmmm, where have I seen this before?:



    But who can blame them, this shtick worked before:

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    The whole deal is Twilight Zone absurd. There is absolutely ZERO ways Obama can justify this bullshit. "I'll give you money if you slow down your nuclear weapons capability to buy 10 years before you threaten the world with it in the meantime you can still work on your missiles."

    Congress should have found a way to stop his ass. That's the whole point to checks and balances. Even if they had to file a lawsuit in a lower court. Which begs the question since it has worked against Trump would it have worked against Obama? Money says he would have told the court he was King and the "lowly court" couldn't stop him.
    My quota of bullshit cop outs from closed minds is full today, Tomorrow's not looking good for you either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    The whole deal is Twilight Zone absurd. There is absolutely ZERO ways Obama can justify this bullshit. "I'll give you money if you slow down your nuclear weapons capability to buy 10 years before you threaten the world with it in the meantime you can still work on your missiles."

    Congress should have found a way to stop his ass. That's the whole point to checks and balances. Even if they had to file a lawsuit in a lower court. Which begs the question since it has worked against Trump would it have worked against Obama? Money says he would have told the court he was King and the "lowly court" couldn't stop him.
    sunstiitute Clinton and North Korea for Obama and Iran.

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    Face it.

    Obama thought he was a God. All he had to do was wave a finger and the sycophant liberals
    followed along, tongues wagging for a chance to lick his ass.

    Congress should have put the skids on this deal, but the Democrat leaders were not about
    to disobey 'God'.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

    "I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same of others"...John Wayne in "The Shootist"

    A Deplorable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    sunstiitute Clinton and North Korea for Obama and Iran.
    Okay, THIS feels weird, but Clinton was nowhere near Obama's league. (that tasted bad) The precedent of tossing a cookie to the Kim's to shut them up was set long before Clinton. What Clinton should not have agreed to with Un was an expiration date to the agreement (05). I said the same about Bush's tax cuts he never signed into law when he had a GOP Congress and I say now about Trump's EOs. Get them signed into law. Your drawers are showing when you allow them to expire after you're gone.

    Obama's deal with Iran was Obama gave Iran everything it wanted to include the cliche "suitcase full of cash". And all the agreement did was slow down, not stop, Iran's development of nuclear weapons.

    Here's a plan: Stop them NOW before they get them? I realize that concept is difficult for the Euro-and-left-brained, but once they get them there are no do-overs. I just want to slap the crap out of some of these idiots in the hopes it'll start something working. Sure won't hurt anything.
    My quota of bullshit cop outs from closed minds is full today, Tomorrow's not looking good for you either.

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    Default This stuff is reminding me of another time in History When Europe sided with Tyrants.

    Does anyone know what this man did? And WHO he did it with?

    This is WHO he did it with...just like Obama did with the Iran Deal.


    And today's SNOWFLAKES, LIBERALS, DEMOCRATS, and MISLED MILLENIALS are accusing President Trump of being Like the man with the SWATSTIKA???


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    I wonder if Neville Chamberlain every envisioned the one thing he would be most remembered in history for ....

    One would think, considering the total cost in lives and property of WWII, and the cost of the Cold War that was a result of it, people might remember. I can live with a mistake. People make them. I'm not very tolerant to doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result.

    Caving in to despots has NEVER worked.
    My quota of bullshit cop outs from closed minds is full today, Tomorrow's not looking good for you either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I wonder if Neville Chamberlain every envisioned the one thing he would be most remembered in history for ....

    One would think, considering the total cost in lives and property of WWII, and the cost of the Cold War that was a result of it, people might remember. I can live with a mistake. People make them. I'm not very tolerant to doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result.

    Caving in to despots has NEVER worked.
    Chamberlain came back to Britain a hero after Munich.

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    Socialist (Liberals in power NOW)) are suicidal...look at Europe now with its muslim terrorist Roach infestation....and what is happening to Europe....Most people in Europe are aware...but the socialist leaders are screwed up...



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    ANYTHING Iran wants or likes means bad news for the rest of the world.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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