Wages

[truthmatters]

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[darin]

Half of Americans make less than 30,000 a year.

That's a worthless statistic. I'd bet Half of all Americans are too young or too old to be employed.

FWIW - you wouldn't know a good time if it fell out of the sky, landed on your face, and started to wiggle.


Fact is, MORE americans seems to be EMPLOYED.

From the link you posted:

The combined income of all Americans in 2005 was slightly larger than it was in 2000, but because more people were dividing up the national income pie, the average remained smaller. Total adjusted gross income in 2005 was $7.43 trillion, up 3.1 percent from 2000 and 5.8 percent from 2004.

OH! And the VERY poor, are making MORE money, too

The I.R.S. data showed that the number of Americans making less than $25,000 a year shrank, down by 3.2 million, or 5.5 percent.

OH! And "reported Income" doesn't usually relate to one's earnings.

[truthmatters]

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[darin]

50% make less than 30,000 and nothing you have said here shows this to be untrue.

So what's your problem with this report? It shows MANY more jobs created, and Lots of saving-what-we-earn-instead-of-giving-it-to-the-gov. The report shows a DECREASE in those only making $25k or less. That's good news.

Nothing you have shown here refutes that incomes have gone down for the first time since 1945 with the exception of one year.

Of course nothing I wrote refutes your claim incomes have gone down for the first time since 1945 with the exception of one year because I wasn't TRYING to refute that bullshit claim.

MY income is 165% of what it was just seven years ago. That refutes your claim, I suppose.

[avatar4321]

50% make less than 30,000 and nothing you have said here shows this to be untrue.

Nothing you have shown here refutes that incomes have gone down for the first time since 1945 with the exception of one year.

and of course you are forgetting to factor in that a large part of that "50%" is here illegally and not entitled to be here let alone to work here.

[truthmatters]

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[truthmatters]

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[typomaniac]

I often think that the people responding to posts like these don't even bother to read the article first.

[darin]

You are one person and effect the numbers none in the least


So the only person in the country who matters is you?

No - I'm saying Your wild claim about "Wages" and "Earning" is NOT applicable. At least not to ME nor anybody I know. I was refuting your claim - which is what you seemed to want.

I often think that the people responding to posts like these don't even bother to read the article first.

I often think some of the people posting this stuff on the board don't even bother to read the article.

[Mr. P]

http://tinyurl.com/2ldfpa


wages seem to be having a low since 1945, a five year trend of being down not seen since then.

Total income listed on tax returns grew every year after World War II, with a single one-year exception, until 2001, making the five-year period of lower average incomes and four years of lower total incomes a new experience for the majority of Americans born since 1945.


Half of Americans make less than 30,000 a year.

Ahhhhh but HALF make more than 30,000. They didn't tell ya that.

There is nothing here but another mindless transparent attack by the NYTs on the Bush administration via tax cuts. More of the same, create class warfare.

I wonder when they will start reporting news instead of pushing agenda?

[Dilloduck]

Ahhhhh but HALF make more than 30,000. They didn't tell ya that.

There is nothing here but another mindless transparent attack by the NYTs on the Bush administration via tax cuts. More of the same, create class warfare.

I wonder when they will start reporting news instead of pushing agenda?

Never---the hottest war that's going on right now is the ideological one in the US and its spreading rapidly. The resources that are being wasted is phenomenal. Oh the poor hearts and minds needless wasted.

[Trigg]

50% make less than 30,000 and nothing you have said here shows this to be untrue.

How many people do you know who work part-time by choice???????

50% of people making less than 30,000 isn't necessarily a bad thing. There are millions of part-time workers young and old out there, semi-retired (my father) and parents (myself included).

[Kathianne]

http://tinyurl.com/2ldfpa


wages seem to be having a low since 1945, a five year trend of being down not seen since then.

Total income listed on tax returns grew every year after World War II, with a single one-year exception, until 2001, making the five-year period of lower average incomes and four years of lower total incomes a new experience for the majority of Americans born since 1945.


Half of Americans make less than 30,000 a year.

Do you think it has anything to do with all the illegals, willing to work for 'less than Americans, for jobs they won't do?"

[Kathianne]

These numbers do not include illegals.

Whether 'included' or not, the impact is real, especially among those with less education. If "illegal" will do landscaping for $6 an hour, those that do not hire illegals only have to go to $8 or $9 an hour. Wages are surpressed from the bottom up.

It's the same function unions served in the past, they could win an increase for 'sanitation engineers' to $14 an hour. Then everyone above them made more. Then industries that considered their place higher, raised their salaries.

[actsnoblemartin]

I think some of you are being unfair and going off topic with tm.

half of All Legal americans making less then 30,000 would not be a good thing, even if we have no unemployment. However, Any illegal, should not have the right to live or work here, because they have to steal housing to live and social seucirity numbers to work.

But, I mean, lets be fair to tm, we may not agree with him, but he is a nice guy