Trump vows government shutdown to force funding for border wall

***jimnyc*** · 07-29-2018, 01:32 PM

Quite frankly, I don't think he follows through, at least not fully. I would love to see that be the case, but he's simply bent too many times for me so far to believe he'll fully stand his ground. I think he'll do as he's doing now and then blame it on someone else when it doesn't get funded. And that very well may be the case, and better things to spend the money on, or less money - but then don't lay claim to something you won't actually claim. But one can hope.

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Trump vows government shutdown to force funding for border wall

President Donald Trump threatened to shut down the government if lawmakers do not fully fund his proposed border wall and enact his immigration priorities.

Trump’s Sunday tweet is likely to spark a high stakes showdown with Democratic lawmakers who have pledged not to give in to his demands. The fight could lead right into the November midterm elections and put immigration as a centerpiece issue in the last stages of the campaign season.

Trump has long been frustrated by lack of effort to fully fund his proposed $25 billion wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. The White House originally tried to enact wall funding and immigration priorities by tying demands to an expiration of DACA. The DACA program allowed hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children to remain in the U.S. and work without consequences.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/29/tr...all-shut-down/

**Noir** · 07-29-2018, 01:58 PM

How many Democrat votes is he looking for?

**FakeNewsSux** · 07-29-2018, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Noir

How many Democrat votes is he looking for?

He'll need at least 9 in the Senate.

**FakeNewsSux** · 07-29-2018, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by jimnyc

Quite frankly, I don't think he follows through, at least not fully. I would love to see that be the case, but he's simply bent too many times for me so far to believe he'll fully stand his ground. I think he'll do as he's doing now and then blame it on someone else when it doesn't get funded. And that very well may be the case, and better things to spend the money on, or less money - but then don't lay claim to something you won't actually claim. But one can hope.

This might be an effort to fire up the base for the midterm elections. From what I understand there is already some construction taking place with the money that was already allocated in this year's budget. Don't you find it interesting that President Trump is having such a hard time coming up $20-$30 billion for a border wall while The Dear Leader was able to slap $140 billion in the Ayatollah's back pocket in a moments notice without anyone's approval?

**Noir** · 07-30-2018, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by FakeNewsSux

He'll need at least 9 in the Senate.

So that’s a 0% chance then.

**Drummond** · 07-30-2018, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Noir

So that’s a 0% chance then.

.. and I'm sure you like that prospect, eh, Noir.

No doubt this will become a more prominent issue, if (as I expect he will) Trump carries out his threat. Then, it'll be a case of 'will I get the funding, or will I be forced to renege on an election pledge, against my - AND THE VOTERS' - wishes' ?

Who'll ultimately decide the issue of what happens ? The President, and The People who democratically elected him .. or .. a disapproving mob, working AGAINST the electorate ?

Tell us which you'd prefer, Noir ...

**Noir** · 07-30-2018, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Drummond

.. and I'm sure you like that prospect, eh, Noir.

No doubt this will become a more prominent issue, if (as I expect he will) Trump carries out his threat. Then, it'll be a case of 'will I get the funding, or will I be forced to renege on an election pledge, against my - AND THE VOTERS' - wishes' ?

Who'll ultimately decide the issue of what happens ? The President, and The People who democratically elected him .. or .. a disapproving mob, working AGAINST the electorate ?

Tell us which you'd prefer, Noir ...

The checks and balances of the Executive have been worn thinner and thinner over the years, so it’s pleasant that some level of resistance can be applied by the Legislature.

For what it’s worth the people who he is asking to change their votes were also elected, and have constituents that they represent.

**pete311** · 07-30-2018, 02:13 PM

Republicans control congress and the executive branch and threaten to stop gov. lol, winning!

**Elessar** · 07-30-2018, 03:08 PM

Are any of these complainers to securing our borders and enforcing our
LAWS willing to take in and house illegal immigrants? Do you like
having citizens of the USA seeing tax dollars in the millions spent in supporting
law breakers?

Yes, Illegal....law-breakers!

Go ahead complainers....house them, feed them, clothe them, get them free medical care,
and free education. But do that out of your own pocket...not everyone else's.

Tired of explaining immigration law to whining liberals. YOU pay for them then; however,
do you even pay taxes or avoid it somehow?

**pete311** · 07-30-2018, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Elessar

Are any of these complainers to securing our borders and enforcing our
LAWS willing to take in and house illegal immigrants? Do you like
having citizens of the USA seeing tax dollars in the millions spent in supporting
law breakers?

Yes, Illegal....law-breakers!

Go ahead complainers....house them, feed them, clothe them, get them free medical care,
and free education. But do that out of your own pocket...not everyone else's.

Tired of explaining immigration law to whining liberals. YOU pay for them then; however,
do you even pay taxes or avoid it somehow?

How's the border going to stop the 600k+ European illegal immigrants. Never hear you talk about them. Not racist right?

**Black Diamond** · 07-30-2018, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by pete311

Republicans control congress and the executive branch and threaten to stop gov. lol, winning!

They have more than 60 senators? When did this happen ?

**Elessar** · 07-31-2018, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by pete311

How's the border going to stop the 600k+ European illegal immigrants. Never hear you talk about them. Not racist right?

Explain the 'racist'....3 races....Causation, Negroid, and Asian.

Explain the facts on 600k+ plus Europeans, a point and figure never spoken of
in ANY media.

Explain the influx over the southern border of hispanics and criminals, numbering into the
millions the past 9 years.

Got room in your garage for a dozen or so? Pay for them out of your own pocket.

**darin** · 07-31-2018, 01:05 AM

what I don't get....

Trump got his Defense budget additions. Send the Billions to the Corps of Engineers and bam! they build the wall. easy-peasy.

**High_Plains_Drifter** · 07-31-2018, 09:34 AM

I can't find a link to a story, but I heard that Turtle McConnell said there wasn't going to be any wall funding in this next bill.

I hope Trump does stick it right back on Turtle face and shut the works down. Tell them the ONLY thing I will sign WILL have wall funding, and let the fucking stand off begin, shut the place down. See how the republicans think that'll help them come November, NOT supporting a very popular president that RAN on building a wall.

He told them when he signed the last omnibus abortion with no wall funding that he WOULDN'T do it again. Apparently they're not listening.

**Noir** · 07-31-2018, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by darin

what I don't get....

Trump got his Defense budget additions. Send the Billions to the Corps of Engineers and bam! they build the wall. easy-peasy.

Are defence budgets allocated?

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