Visit Germany, or Not Visit Germany... That Is The Question...

[pete311]

Petey, sonny boy, I don't hide from anyone.

Accept Germans. Scary lot they are.

[Gunny]

Accept Germans. Scary lot they are.

Giving advice?

[Elessar]

Accept Germans. Scary lot they are.

Accept? I do accept...my Dad's family came from there.

If you meant except, you are dreaming again and talking out of your ass once more.

[darin]

If people travel here, they travel for themselves - they do not travel to make a political point supporting the government. I live in a place that has more US Citizens living outside the USA than any other place on the planet. If anyone visits, they visit here to see amazing history, beautiful, kind people and drink wonderful beverages. I'd host anyone who cares to visit - just drop me a PM. Free lodging too

Must like dogs. And a cat.

[pete311]

If people travel here, they travel for themselves - they do not travel to make a political point supporting the government. I live in a place that has more US Citizens living outside the USA than any other place on the planet. If anyone visits, they visit here to see amazing history, beautiful, kind people and drink wonderful beverages. I'd host anyone who cares to visit - just drop me a PM. Free lodging too

Must like dogs. And a cat.

Next time I'm in Europe I'll hit you up. Could be next summer.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

If people travel here, they travel for themselves - they do not travel to make a political point supporting the government.

I'll bet some do... like little Pete.

I live in a place that has more US Citizens living outside the USA than any other place on the planet.

That's reassuring.

If anyone visits, they visit here to see amazing history, beautiful, kind people and drink wonderful beverages.

Yes, it would have been wonderful to visit Germany like ten years ago before Merkel flooded the country with NOT beautiful, kind people.

I'd host anyone who cares to visit - just drop me a PM. Free lodging too.

I wouldn't host anyone that said they were going to "HIT ME UP."

I haven't totally discarded the idea, but I am wary. Just my nature.

[Drummond]

I'll bet some do... like little Pete.


That's reassuring.


Yes, it would have been wonderful to visit Germany like ten years ago before Merkel flooded the country with NOT beautiful, kind people.


I wouldn't host anyone that said they were going to "HIT ME UP."

I haven't totally discarded the idea, but I am wary. Just my nature.

There's a simple point that needs to be made, though, and one already mentioned. If you do visit Germany (or almost any EU country), you'll definitely need to watch what you say. Along with high immigration rates of 'undesirables', comes a 'PC' climate suited to it all. Speak out in an un-approved of manner, and I think you'll be lucky if the result just stops as an argument.

In my country, we have 'hatespeech' laws. Express disapproval of creeds such as Islam beyond a certain degree, and you risk arrest.

I don't know if Germany is the same. It might well be, though. Darin may need to advise.

[darin]

There's a simple point that needs to be made, though, and one already mentioned. If you do visit Germany (or almost any EU country), you'll definitely need to watch what you say. Along with high immigration rates of 'undesirables', comes a 'PC' climate suited to it all. Speak out in an un-approved of manner, and I think you'll be lucky if the result just stops as an argument.

In my country, we have 'hatespeech' laws. Express disapproval of creeds such as Islam beyond a certain degree, and you risk arrest.

I don't know if Germany is the same. It might well be, though. Darin may need to advise.

Watch what you say to whom? Really, as a tourist, it's all about experiencing the country and culture.

Here's Germany today - Drank a beer in the courtyard of a castle overlooking a beautiful, quaint city

[High_Plains_Drifter]

A large portion of why I'd visit Germany, other than the beer and history, would be just to meet Darin, who I think is a solid dude, got his shit together and I believe would make an awesome host and tour guide.

Course I or anyone else could just wait until he moves back to America I suppose, but I'm a WWII history buff. Would love to visit places like the Wolf's Den, the Berghof, even Auschwitz. As an empath I can't even imagine what I'd feel there. My emotions would probably be off the charts. I hear you can visit Goebbels' cabin too, although it's a rather large place to be called a cabin.

[Drummond]

Watch what you say to whom? Really, as a tourist, it's all about experiencing the country and culture.

Here's Germany today - Drank a beer in the courtyard of a castle overlooking a beautiful, quaint city

I almost didn't reply, because I can't speak for how things are in Germany.

I can only say that, in my country, the reply to your question would've been obvious. You'd watch what you were saying, in public, in front of anyone who could obviously take offence at, for example, anti-Islamic comments, choosing to interpret them as 'incitement to hatred'.

https://www.revolvy.com/page/Racial-...atred-Act-2006

At the general election, the Labour Party confirmed that, were it to be re-elected, it would bring in a Bill to outlaw incitement to religious hatred: "It remains our firm intention to give people of all faiths the same protection against incitement to hatred on the basis of their religion. We will legislate to outlaw it and will continue the dialogue we have started with faith groups from all backgrounds about how best to balance protection, tolerance and free speech".

You'll note that last sentence. It basically says that 'free speech' is fine, so long as the freedom of expression involved weighs out well against other factors, such as 'protection and tolerance'.

In other words, others decide what is or is not 'acceptable' free speech. The 'unacceptable' version is punishable in law.

[Black Diamond]

Accept Germans. Scary lot they are.

Except the people we are concerned about in this thread aren't Germans. No matter how many times Merkel says they are.