Anti-Brexit scaremongering ....

[Noir]

Okay, so since you can just about consider that we could be worse off - how long do you think it is acceptable for us to be “patient” for for things to be better, months, years?

[Drummond]

It's interesting that you are asking me all of these questions. Can I take it that you're accepting I'm a better 'authority' on such things than you are ?

[I suppose it's understandable. The Left's grasp of competent economic management is at best pathetic ... judging by the messes Labour keeps making of the UK economy, every time it's in Government ...]

Well ... even as Mrs May's travels to African nations is proving, she's working even now to create the basis for future new trade opportunities. How soon will those kick in ? How about the deals President Trump is eager to make with us ?

Overall .. it has to be expected that the sudden wrench away from the EU will have short-term detrimental effects, simply because it IS a wrench. Economic effects ... it'd take weeks for the differences in business activity to become apparent, much less quantifiable with any clarity. We're talking months just to get a clear picture on that. Then, there's the effect of new trading partners. Months again to even record its effects ... I understand that official National Account reports are compiled quarterly.

For the full re-jig to be comprehensibly felt on any standalone permanent basis ... one year plus (would other foreign Companies set up factories here ? How long would it take ? How long before the jobs market feels the effect and employment figures improve ?) So ... effects to feed properly through, I'd say another year or 2.

HOWEVER .. there's another factor. UNCERTAINTY, AND MARKET JITTERS. We saw just after the Referendum result just how volatile stocks and shares were, how confidence in UK economies can make shares plummet overnight, with our entire economy affected within days. Yes .. the Left may take delight in instituting a wrecking bout of propaganda.

In fact .. I think we're seeing something of that, even now. All these scare stories are popping up, NOW, because of the crucial stage of negotiations .. and because EU intransigence makes it look likely that there'll be no deal. Enter 'Remoaners' on to the scene, to hype things up, making it look like we're all about to go down the plughole ...

So, you ask me how long it'll take for things to get better. Well, just how much of a wrecking spree will the anti-leaving side indulge in ??

YOU tell ME.

We will need years for the dust to settle and adjustments to our trading capabilities to fully take effect.

The very best scenario is for everyone to stop fighting the democratically arrived-at Brexit result, get behind it, stop the scaremongering, and go from there. This will, of course, shorten our recovery time.

Then, our new Golden Age can and will be properly experienced.

[Noir]

It's interesting that you are asking me all of these questions. Can I take it that you're accepting I'm a better 'authority' on such things than you are ?

I have no idea what you are an authority in. So unless you were to state such authority I take yours as only an opinion.

We will need years for the dust to settle and adjustments to our trading capabilities to fully take effect.

So you’re prepared for years of ‘teething trouble’ any considerations for those who would struggle through those years?

[Drummond]

Well, Noir, you've still worked hard to get my opinions ! You must value them ...

Noir, as for the 'teething troubles' issue, this is surely unavoidable. Any major change of the type we must go through can't help but cause them.

Can I point out that I wasn't the only one who voted in the Referendum ? In excess of seventeen MILLION people voted for Brexit. What they did not vote for, was its opposite .. remaining chained to the EU, having our affairs increasingly run for us by Brussels, and having completely open borders to anyone and everyone who wants to come here from any EU country.

I prefer that we run our own affairs. If that involves teething troubles, then it does.

I also prefer that we have our Golden Age. One we'll be denied if forced to do things the EU way.

'Sorry' ...

[Drummond]

Aha. Today's scare story !!

Courtesy of the ever-Leftie Guardian newspaper:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...P=share_btn_fb

Consumers would face slower and more costly credit card payments when they buy EU products, and British citizens living abroad could lose access to payments from their bank accounts, in the event of a no-deal Brexit, the government has warned.

The Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab, insisted he was “confident that a good deal is in our sights” as he launched 24 “technical notices” in Westminster on Thursday morning, telling businesses and the public how to prepare if no deal was reached.

He said the government’s priority was to ensure continuity but the 24 technical notices – the first batch of more than 80 due over the summer – underline the potential impact on daily life if Britain leaves without a deal in place next March.


With UK banks likely to lose access to EU payments systems, the financial services paper warns: “Customers (including business using these providers to process euro payments) could face increased costs and slower processing times for euro transactions. The cost of card payments between the UK and EU will likely increase.”


Customers of UK banks living in the EU “may lose the ability to access lending and deposit services, and insurance contracts”, the paper says.


Businesses are warned that if the UK leaves without a deal, “the free circulation of goods between the UK and EU would cease”.

... and so it carries on ....

Teething troubles, indeed, IF this is true (a big 'if'). But with all such phenomena, we'd find ways to fix our difficulties. Other non-EU countries manage perfectly well, as, in time, so will we.

[Drummond]

Aha. Today's scare story !!<br><br>Courtesy of the ever-Leftie Guardian newspaper:<br><br>https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/23/britons-in-eu-could-lose-access-to-uk-bank-accounts-under-no-deal-brexit?CMP=share_btn_fb<br><br>

Consumers would face slower and more costly credit card payments when they buy EU products, and British citizens living abroad could lose access to payments from their bank accounts, in the event of a no-deal Brexit, the government has warned.<br><br>The Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab, insisted he was “confident that a good deal is in our sights” as he launched 24 “technical notices” in Westminster on Thursday morning, telling businesses and the public how to prepare if no deal was reached.<br><br><div>He said the government’s priority was to ensure continuity but the 24 technical notices – the first batch of more than 80 due over the summer – underline the potential impact on daily life if Britain leaves without a deal in place next March.</div><div><br></div>With UK banks likely to lose access to EU payments systems, the financial services paper warns: “Customers (including business using these providers to process euro payments) could face increased costs and slower processing times for euro transactions. The cost of card payments between the UK and EU will likely increase.”</div><br></div><div>Customers of UK banks living in the EU “may lose the ability to access lending and deposit services, and insurance contracts”, the paper says.</div><div><br></div>Businesses are warned that if the UK leaves without a deal, “the free circulation of goods between the UK and EU would cease”.

<br><br>... and so it carries on ....<br><br>Teething troubles, indeed, IF this is true (a big 'if'). But with all such phenomena, we'd find ways to fix our difficulties. Other non-EU countries manage perfectly well, as, in time, so will we.</div>

[Drummond]

Aha. Today's scare story !!<br><br>Courtesy of the ever-Leftie Guardian newspaper:<br><br>https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/23/britons-in-eu-could-lose-access-to-uk-bank-accounts-under-no-deal-brexit?CMP=share_btn_fb<br><br><br><br>... and so it carries on ....<br><br>Teething troubles, indeed, IF this is true (a big 'if'). But with all such phenomena, we'd find ways to fix our difficulties. Other non-EU countries manage perfectly well, as, in time, so will we.</div>

Apologies for the above. I've had difficulties with editing and reproducing quoted text.

Try this, instead:

Today's scare story !! Courtesy of the ever-Leftie Guardian newspaper:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...o-deal-brexit?

Consumers would face slower and more costly credit card payments when they buy EU products, and British citizens living abroad could lose access to payments from their bank accounts, in the event of a no-deal Brexit, the government has warned.

The Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab, insisted he was “confident that a good deal is in our sights” as he launched 24 “technical notices” in Westminster on Thursday morning, telling businesses and the public how to prepare if no deal was reached.

He said the government’s priority was to ensure continuity but the 24 technical notices – the first batch of more than 80 due over the summer – underline the potential impact on daily life if Britain leaves without a deal in place next March.

With UK banks likely to lose access to EU payments systems, the financial services paper warns: “Customers (including business using these providers to process euro payments) could face increased costs and slower processing times for euro transactions. The cost of card payments between the UK and EU will likely increase.”

Customers of UK banks living in the EU “may lose the ability to access lending and deposit services, and insurance contracts”, the paper says.

Businesses are warned that if the UK leaves without a deal, “the free circulation of goods between the UK and EU would cease”.

[LongTermGuy]

Polish Lawmaker Dominik Tarczynski Calls For Burqa Ban, No Saudi Mosques in Europe!!!


`Polish Lawmaker Backs Burqa Ban, No Saudi Mosques in Europe Until Poland Can Build Cathedral in Saudi Arabia`

`He suggested the relationship between the West and the Islamic world was currently unbalanced, citing a mosque which Saudi Arabia’s theocratic regime wants to construct in the Polish capital of Warsaw as an example.


“We’re happy to have it once they agree for Poland to build a cathedral in Saudi Arabia,” he said.

“It’s very simple, either we are equal, we are partners, we are the same human beings — or they feel they are better than others,” he declared.`

https://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ld-cathedrals/