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    Let's just cut all the mealy mouthed liberal psychobabble bull shit here and cut to the chase... Noir thinks Americans shouldn't be grieving anymore since it's been 17 years, and if we are, we must all be clinically depressed and need a fucking shrink. We need to move on and just forget the fuck about it. It's over, it's done, we should never feel anything again about it. All those thousands of innocent people killed in cold blood, so what, get over it, or you need fucking help, you must be sick in the head.

    Sound about right?

    I for one don't like this little ferret faced faggots attitude. If that's all he's got to contribute on this day in America, he ought to just shut the fuck up.
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    I will happily drop my pants to allow you to KISS MY ASS! Hope you like the taste!
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    There may be some slight confusion over the term “grief/grieving” I should probably cut the middle-man and just term it as “depression” as that may be more universally understood as expected (in the case of a death etc) but certainly not a healthy long-term state.
    Just WHAT affords you the gift to try and Psychoanalyze others all of the time?

    You have never, ever been in places some of us have and I am sure you scurry from
    any perceived danger in your 3-D life.

    You preach and pontificate all the time, but don't have Dick One to show for or prove
    your selfish opinions.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

    "I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same of others"...John Wayne in "The Shootist"

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    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Let's just cut all the mealy mouthed liberal psychobabble bull shit here and cut to the chase... Noir thinks Americans shouldn't be grieving anymore since it's been 17 years, and if we are, we must all be clinically depressed and need a fucking shrink. We need to move on and just forget the fuck about it. It's over, it's done, we should never feel anything again about it. All those thousands of innocent people killed in cold blood, so what, get over it, or you need fucking help, you must be sick in the head.

    Sound about right?

    I for one don't like this little ferret faced faggots attitude. If that's all he's got to contribute on this day in America, he ought to just shut the fuck up.
    I think you're right, but, that Noir thinks as he does for a reason.

    He wants his own agenda to win through. Being a creature of the Left, what he wants is for enmities towards the practitioners of Islam to cease. He wants, as he's said, remembrance of 9/11 to happen but minus its emotional impact. Why ? So that emotions against the Muslim terrorists responsible are no longer invoked, that's why.

    I think we can agree that this expectation, in itself, is an outrage. More though, he's being loyal to the 'PC' nature of his creed, but within his more blinkered BRITISH context for it, believing that nothing stops it being applied to Americans.

    In that, Noir is an absolute idiot.

    He's also showing enormous arrogance. Somehow, he thinks that HIS imperatives, HIS judgments, supersede those of the average American and are somehow 'superior'. He thinks he has the right to preach, as I see it. In doing that, he's not only demonstrating a half-baked idiocy, but a contempt for your right to think and feel as you will.

    I think it's disgusting.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Default Forget Noir....

    We should all remember why the FRENCH wear Brown Pants, and Red Shirts. Not to mention why their OLD WW1 and 2 Navy's can be viewed by GLASS BOTTOMED BOATS.

    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    @jimnyc or @Abbey PIN This!
    Done! We'll leave it up here to honor those lost and the heroes of 9/11, both 2001 and 2012. Once enough memorial stuff has been posted, and enough discussion has been had, I'll eventually unstick it I assume?
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Forgetting events? No.
    But forgetting emotions? Yes, and in the most part that is a healthy and inevitable outcome.

    There’s also a wave of about-to-be college students who weren’t alive before 9/11, who’s emotions are about as detached as it is possible to be, that changes conversations.
    Re-reading this thread and thinking about this, and wanted to add a few things.

    Vietnam for example. Was long over and a part of history before we were taught anything about that war. Same of course goes for the World Wars and a bunch of battles. The revolutionary war & the civil war...

    Now, while I don't get the "same" emotion going over and remembering those events, as I do with 9/11, as I simply wasn't alive back then. But, I surely do feel an emotional connection to the events. I KNOW that these men and women fought and so many gave their lives for my freedoms. I feel VERY emotional about Vietnam, the wall and other connected memorials and events. Not because I was there or lived through it, but because it was such a HUGE part of our history, and over 58,000 brave soldiers killed in action. 150,000+ wounded. 1,500+ missing in action. And I know just SO many people that were in Vietnam, or have a parent or relative that was there.

    WW1 and WW2. Not many left, but sure were some brave soldiers, once again fighting for our freedoms.

    So yeah, no doubt that kids that weren't alive during the events of 9/11, or the events of various wars, won't feel or will have detached emotions. I know I have them. I have a lot of pride in these brave soldiers, so many of them lying in Arlington right now. I have a lot of sadness for the amount of deaths, and for the loss the families had to deal with.

    And I think that this national pride should apply to everyone. Maybe not everyone has been in the amount or the size of the wars we have seen, or the losses. But I think folks should still all be understanding of those losses, and sacrifices & emotions that can be invoked.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Re-reading this thread and thinking about this, and wanted to add a few things.

    Vietnam for example. Was long over and a part of history before we were taught anything about that war. Same of course goes for the World Wars and a bunch of battles. The revolutionary war & the civil war...

    Now, while I don't get the "same" emotion going over and remembering those events, as I do with 9/11, as I simply wasn't alive back then. But, I surely do feel an emotional connection to the events. I KNOW that these men and women fought and so many gave their lives for my freedoms. I feel VERY emotional about Vietnam, the wall and other connected memorials and events. Not because I was there or lived through it, but because it was such a HUGE part of our history, and over 58,000 brave soldiers killed in action. 150,000+ wounded. 1,500+ missing in action. And I know just SO many people that were in Vietnam, or have a parent or relative that was there.

    WW1 and WW2. Not many left, but sure were some brave soldiers, once again fighting for our freedoms.

    So yeah, no doubt that kids that weren't alive during the events of 9/11, or the events of various wars, won't feel or will have detached emotions. I know I have them. I have a lot of pride in these brave soldiers, so many of them lying in Arlington right now. I have a lot of sadness for the amount of deaths, and for the loss the families had to deal with.

    And I think that this national pride should apply to everyone. Maybe not everyone has been in the amount or the size of the wars we have seen, or the losses. But I think folks should still all be understanding of those losses, and sacrifices & emotions that can be invoked.
    Great post.

    Your final point, touching on the matter of national pride, is perhaps Noir's greatest difficulty in identifying with an American's mindset. National pride, these days at least, is far more a part of your culture and thinking than it is in Noir's.

    Fly a Union Jack outside your house, or wherever ... and there are those who'll attack you for being 'racist', or overly jingoistic. Our Socialists in particular (of which, it seems, Noir is one) want us turned into a fully multicultural society, which can't help but mean that our sense of national identity dies a death. In America, as I see it, the opposite is true.

    Therefore, 9/11 was always bound to have a particular emotional impact, and significance for you, which Noir just isn't equipped to relate to. He therefore addresses his concept of what's 'right' about the nature of your marking that day, wholly oblivious of what's fully involved.

    I judge, though, that Noir just doesn't care. He thinks he's right, and would rather preach his limited 'PC' outlook than be receptive to greater truths.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Reading through this thread again brought back some thoughts.

    There were citizens from many nations, not just the USA, that died in the World Trade Center.
    90 global nations! Yes, majority USA.

    So there WAS a global impact, not just with commerce affected, but with human cost.

    https://brilliantmaps.com/9-11-victims/

    Countries with 9/11 Memorials:

    http://www.memorialmapping.com/memor...wse-by-country

    Noir just does not know what he is talking about, but loves to psycho-babble!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    You try living with such an event and see how your philosophy works for you.

    First responders - Police, Firefighters, Ambulance Crews, City Workers - all perished
    when those towers collapsed. They put their lives on the line each time they
    deploy from their station.

    Forgive? NO! Forget? NO!
    It will be a cold day in hell before I forget.
    Why should any American forget?
    Did Islam change its stripes?!! Hell no--it has since quadrupled down on its goal to destroy us.
    It is the globalists and their dem party ally that want us to forget, to embrace Islam!
    And they both have spent 17 years in efforts trying to engineer that......
    Americans are blind to this dangerous alliance = Globalists, Dem party and Islam...
    A reality, a scary truth and one that is immensely dangerous to this nation's survival. --Tyr
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    Somali Muslim Mobs Beating Locals & Refusing to Integrate in Maine: “We’re Here To Stay, Whether You Like It Or Not!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post


    Somali Muslim Mobs Beating Locals & Refusing to Integrate in Maine: “We’re Here To Stay, Whether You Like It Or Not!”

    https://www.dcclothesline.com/2019/0...YpnGSvZHi9Wxxk


    Worth repeating.........



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    Every child should watch the planes hitting the towers, the towers coming down, and the photos of the bastards who engineered this. In the first grade-year that they can handle it. But def in elementary school. Then again in high school to reinforce it.

    But I’m not naive. Would our liberal DOE even allow it.
    @Kathianne what is your experience with this topic?
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