Local school reinstates paddle policy

[Drummond]

I’ve said before, I didn’t use corporal punishment with my kids. I did gen them and jerk them back from entering a street or other dangerous options. I don’t think parents that spank in the common way are abusive.

I would not applaud the use of corporal punishment by schools, they are not the parent. I do however favor suspension and expulsion when a student is a continuing disruption to others education. It shouldn’t be so difficult.

Corporal punishment, in schools, isn't so bad. It applies a disciplinary solution that has an immediate effect, and it concludes whatever issue has arisen quickly and efficiently.

In my school, caning was an option, and was often employed. I'm unaware of any child ever, at any time, being actually 'damaged' by its use. However .. discipline was maintained. My school was, and continues to this day to be (and acknowledged as such), one providing the best learning environment to be found anywhere within a radius of several miles. It didn't FAIL as a school. Very far from it.

[... Granted, use of the cane, today, is pretty much impossible, thanks to interfering Lefties of Pete's ilk, and yes, this DOES cause some difficulty. Still, my school can and does trade on its reputation ... and still, relatively speaking, performs well as an excellent teaching environment]

[Noir]

The story’s from each side tend to only range from ‘you’re abusing your child’ to ‘that child will know no discipline’ etc with little in-between, but the most reasonable take to me is something like Kathiannes post.

It’s not abuse, but I don’t think it’s desirable either.

[pete311]

The story’s from each side tend to only range from ‘you’re abusing your child’ to ‘that child will know no discipline’ etc with little in-between, but the most reasonable take to me is something like Kathiannes post.

It’s not abuse, but I don’t think it’s desirable either.

It is a abuse. Do you hit your dog when he acts out? Do you hit your wife or girlfriend when she acts out? I doubt it. Then why on gods green earth do you think it's okay to hit your own small child.

[pete311]

Corporal punishment, in schools, isn't so bad. It applies a disciplinary solution that has an immediate effect, and it concludes whatever issue has arisen quickly and efficiently.

This is a problem with people in the military. They think violence is a solution to everything.

[Noir]

It is a abuse. Do you hit your dog when he acts out? Do you hit your wife or girlfriend when she acts out? I doubt it. Then why on gods green earth do you think it's okay to hit your own small child.

I’d be interested to know what other forms of parenting your consider on the same level - Os shouting at a child acceptable? Is lying to a child acceptable? Is grounding a child acceptable?

[Elessar]

This is a problem with people in the military. They think violence is a solution to everything.

YOU are completely wrong there, Pete! Again with your broad liberal brush!

I saved and protected lives. Yes, I was trained to kill to protect myself and others -
but preferred to diffuse a situation.

Treading on thin ice with THAT remark!

[Drummond]

I’d be interested to know what other forms of parenting your consider on the same level - Os shouting at a child acceptable? Is lying to a child acceptable? Is grounding a child acceptable?

This dialogue between two Lefties is interesting.

OK, Noir. Track back, see what I've repeatedly asked Pete to answer (without getting one, naturally). How would YOU answer me ?

[Drummond]

This is a problem with people in the military. They think violence is a solution to everything.

I wasn't discussing 'the military', Pete, so why are you, when replying to me ? I fail to see what their service to their country (which, it seems, you do NOT appreciate ??) has to do with applying discipline to a child.

Are you implying that a future scenario can be expected which would require calling upon the military to control totally out-of-control kids ??

[Drummond]

It is a abuse. Do you hit your dog when he acts out? Do you hit your wife or girlfriend when she acts out? I doubt it. Then why on gods green earth do you think it's okay to hit your own small child.

Let me guess. In LeftieWorld, children are 'little adults'. Yes ?

Wives and girlfriends are adults. Not children. Nor are dogs children. Why, then, do you think that a comparison even applies ?

[Elessar]

I’d be interested to know what other forms of parenting your consider on the same level - Os shouting at a child acceptable? Is lying to a child acceptable? Is grounding a child acceptable?

Have children. Find out. If you raise them by what you say here, they
will be nothing but cowardly, simpering and totally dependent burdens.

[Elessar]

I wasn't discussing 'the military', Pete, so why are you, when replying to me ? I fail to see what their service to their country (which, it seems, you do NOT appreciate ??) has to do with applying discipline to a child.

Are you implying that a future scenario can be expected which would require calling upon the military to control totally out-of-control kids ??

Pete is again off the rails and deflecting, @pete311.

US Coast Guard and US Air Force share Search and Rescue in the 50 States. We need no
permissions to go into a disaster area.

USCG and USAF can request other branches to respond. Navy and Marines are the fastest.
Army takes some moving, but when they are there, it is so welcome.

Military members are the worst for 'abuse' Pete? That is a flat out lie that you concocted
to cover your cowardly ass.

Prime mission of military is safety and security.

Abuse and beating will get you shoved into a prison, Pete.

[Drummond]

Have children. Find out. If you raise them by what you say here, they
will be nothing but cowardly, simpering and totally dependent burdens.

I also think they'll be out of control. They'll lack discipline. They'll lack values. Having lacked an authority-figure, and not being used to one when one appears, they have a heightened chance of becoming the thugs and criminals of the next generation.

[pete311]

Let me guess. In LeftieWorld, children are 'little adults'. Yes ?

Wives and girlfriends are adults. Not children. Nor are dogs children. Why, then, do you think that a comparison even applies ?

Got it, so hitting full grown adults is not ok, but defenseless children is okay to hit. It's not okay to hit dogs, but okay to hit little kids. Got it!

[pete311]

Have children. Find out. If you raise them by what you say here, they
will be nothing but cowardly, simpering and totally dependent burdens.

So your best parenting advice is to strike my child. Got it, thanks!

[Elessar]

Got it, so hitting full grown adults is not ok, but defenseless children is okay to hit. It's not okay to hit dogs, but okay to hit little kids. Got it!

You draw conclusions that were never stated.

Weak, liberal pussy!