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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    you guys have totally lost your minds. you guys are going to build an engineered wall for hundreds of miles?
    There are precedents elsewhere in the world. Those involved extensive wall-building in ages rather more primitive than ours. Yet, those structures were completed, and served their purposes.

    Examples of that 'insanity', then ... these come to mind ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian%27s_Wall

    Hadrian's Wall (Latin: Vallum Aelium), also called the Roman Wall, Picts' Wall, or Vallum Hadriani in Latin, was a defensive fortification in the Roman province of Britannia, begun in AD 122 in the reign of the emperor Hadrian. It ran from the banks of the River Tyne near the North Sea to the Solway Firth on the Irish Sea, and was the northern limit of the Roman Empire, immediately north of which were the lands of the northern Ancient Britons, including the Picts.

    It had a stone base and a stone wall. There were milecastles with two turrets in between. There was a fort about every five Roman miles. From north to south, the wall comprised a ditch, wall, military way and vallum, another ditch with adjoining mounds. It is thought the milecastles were staffed with static garrisons, whereas the forts had fighting garrisons of infantry and cavalry. In addition to the wall's defensive military role, its gates may have been customs posts.[1]

    A significant portion of the wall still stands and can be followed on foot along the adjoining Hadrian's Wall Path. The largest Roman artifact anywhere, it runs a total of 73 miles (117.5 kilometres) in northern England ..
    Romans, in AD 122, could do this. You think that for America to build something comparable, around two millennia later, isn't feasible ?

    Try this example, then ...

    https://www.travelchinaguide.com/chi...s/how-long.htm

    ... the GREAT WALL OF CHINA ...

    How long is the Great Wall of China?

    21,196 kilometers (13,170 miles)

    The total length of the Great Wall of China built in different dynasties is 21,196.18 kilometers (13,170.70 miles), announced by China's State Administration of Cultural Relics in 2012. The length of the Great Wall of the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644) is 8,851.8 kilometers (5,500.3 miles)

    Case made, I think, Pete. Don't you ??

    Or are you suggesting that the modern United States of America is too feeble to manage a wall a fraction of the lengths of these, and defend that wall, if need be ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    you guys have totally lost your minds. you guys are going to build an engineered wall for hundreds of miles?

    Afraid of big manly projects, petey?

    I can run an Excavator. Bulldozer. Backhoe. Forklift. Crane. I've got a million miles under my belt driving a Kenworth, most with a Lowboy hauling heavy equipment. Have you even been near or touched a piece of heavy machinery or is your experience limited to that Civic you roll around in?

    If I were anywhere near that end of the country I'd volunteer my time.

    Instead I gave some money.


    You seem especially snarly today. In fact, most liberals are very snarly with US Citizens kicking in to get the damn wall built. Can you elaborate on why you're so threatened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    There are precedents elsewhere in the world. Those involved extensive wall-building in ages rather more primitive than ours. Yet, those structures were completed, and served their purposes.

    Examples of that 'insanity', then ... these come to mind ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian%27s_Wall



    Romans, in AD 122, could do this. You think that for America to build something comparable, around two millennia later, isn't feasible ?

    Try this example, then ...

    https://www.travelchinaguide.com/chi...s/how-long.htm

    ... the GREAT WALL OF CHINA ...


    Case made, I think, Pete. Don't you ??

    Or are you suggesting that the modern United States of America is too feeble to manage a wall a fraction of that lengths of these, and defend it, if need be ?



    Indeed, Drummond.

    The Alaska Pipeline runs from the North Slope to Valdez and is an unrivaled engineering feat. And that was done in the '70s.

    The wall is a walk in the park compared to the pipeline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Passed in the House, but Senate needs 60 votes. That's not gonna happen, we'd need 7 democrats.


    9.2!
    Buddy just told me that. Nuclear option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Buddy just told me that. Nuclear option?

    Phew... tough call.

    It's already been done for Judicial appointees - Thank God! - but I don't know. If the moonbats ever took another trifecta, we'd be in a world of hurt with no way to stop them.

    The whole state here would immediately be a national monument and we'd all be peddling around on bicycles crunching granola.


    I'd probably go for it, if I were running the show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Afraid of big manly projects, petey?

    I can run an Excavator. Bulldozer. Backhoe. Forklift. Crane. I've got a million miles under my belt driving a Kenworth, most with a Lowboy hauling heavy equipment. Have you even been near or touched a piece of heavy machinery or is your experience limited to that Civic you roll around in?

    If I were anywhere near that end of the country I'd volunteer my time.

    Instead I gave some money.


    You seem especially snarly today. In fact, most liberals are very snarly with US Citizens kicking in to get the damn wall built. Can you elaborate on why you're so threatened?
    I get we have different ideology, but I thought ya'll had more sense than think you could fund raise $10B, that it would matter and then think a few hundred random volunteers are going to engineer a 20ft wall for hundreds, maybe thousands of miles. wake up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I get we have different ideology, but I thought ya'll had more sense than think you could fund raise $10B,
    Who said anything about 10B? Are you mental?


    that it would matter and then think a few hundred random volunteers are going to engineer a 20ft wall for hundreds, maybe thousands of miles. wake up!
    The engineering is already done. The prototypes have already been selected and approved.

    The money is going to be utilized by the approved contractors to build the wall. Professionals. People who are experts in this sort of thing.

    It will also be used to purchase materials for those professionals to work with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I get we have different ideology, but I thought ya'll had more sense than think you could fund raise $10B, that it would matter and then think a few hundred random volunteers are going to engineer a 20ft wall for hundreds, maybe thousands of miles. wake up!
    Stranger things have been done. I said the exact same thing you are in 2008 -- that no way would anyone with a brain vote for anyone half as piss poor that obviously Democrats DID vote for. I just couldn't fathom there being that many stupid people in this country.

    But there you are ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Afraid of big manly projects, petey?

    I can run an Excavator. Bulldozer. Backhoe. Forklift. Crane. I've got a million miles under my belt driving a Kenworth, most with a Lowboy hauling heavy equipment. Have you even been near or touched a piece of heavy machinery or is your experience limited to that Civic you roll around in?

    If I were anywhere near that end of the country I'd volunteer my time.

    Instead I gave some money.


    You seem especially snarly today. In fact, most liberals are very snarly with US Citizens kicking in to get the damn wall built. Can you elaborate on why you're so threatened?
    Now I’d have probably gone with a Prius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Now I’d have probably gone with Prius.
    I'll take the backhoe. If nothing else I can use it to shovel Pete's crap out of the thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Now I’d have probably gone with a Prius.

    Hot redheads can pull that off.


    Soyboys in skinny jeans cringing if anyone even looks over at them in traffic, however, are another matter altogether.
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    10.1 and climbing fast!

    Laura Ingraham just had him on her show. It's really going to go viral when he gets on a prime time shot, and that'll happen soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I'll take the backhoe. If nothing else I can use it to shovel Pete's crap out of the thread
    Lol, I meant for PETE, not me! If I find myself behind a Prius, I find another lane. They seem unable to find the gas pedal.
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    I don't think it'll happen - but goes to show how many support the wall and what could happen if regular folks in America were to put resources together. But even if they were magically able to bring it to say 5 billion, no way the Dems would ever allow for it.

    Nonetheless, that's an awful lot of money in a very short amount of time.

    And if the money is refused, even if it never fully reaches it's goal, then my vote would be to use it for something else that the citizens of America would in fact be able to do. And the intended goal is a wall, or to help with illegal immigration. I'm sure there can still be ways to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I don't think it'll happen - but goes to show how many support the wall and what could happen if regular folks in America were to put resources together. But even if they were magically able to bring it to say 5 billion, no way the Dems would ever allow for it.

    The border wall already has been authorized by several bills in the past. If the money is there, it'll get built.

    The dems can go piss up a rope, there's nothing they can do to stop it.



    12.6 mil!
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