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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Developing crisis? Look at this chart. 2018 was likely at a 1970 level.

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    1984, the Mariel 'boat lift' from Cuba.

    1999, the Haitian Migration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    One month is not statistically relevant. No sources for their data. 2018 is not on https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/media-resources/stats
    Your point is a useless one, for two reasons:

    1. If there was a massive influx of illegals one month, but this tapered off in successive months, should you conclude that the massive influx deserved to be ignored ?

    2. Should everyone, by this reckoning, ignore what happens, no matter how bad it gets, for AN ENTIRE YEAR, just so long as your statistical graph-building model is preserved ?

    Better to address crises, 'real-time', rather than wait around for a year before concluding there's a problem !!
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Just curious. Should we get rid of Congress and just have a President? Seems the new normal is to go with EOs regardless of whether Congress is of the same party or split.

    i guess that would be mostly a dictatorship, but if it changes every 8 years, guess everyone has a shot.

    Keep the lower courts, but no need for SCOTUs, no constitution questions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    There is no "crisis" and everyone knows it.

    ​"Atta-boy pete you tell `em"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Your point is a useless one, for two reasons:

    1. If there was a massive influx of illegals one month, but this tapered off in successive months, should you conclude that the massive influx deserved to be ignored ?

    2. Should everyone, by this reckoning, ignore what happens, no matter how bad it gets, for AN ENTIRE YEAR, just so long as your statistical graph-building model is preserved ?

    Better to address crises, 'real-time', rather than wait around for a year before concluding there's a problem !!
    You think the wall is gonna be built in a few weeks? It will take years... so... yeah... we got the time to take a better perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Just curious. Should we get rid of Congress and just have a President? Seems the new normal is to go with EOs regardless of whether Congress is of the same party or split.

    i guess that would be mostly a dictatorship, but if it changes every 8 years, guess everyone has a shot.

    Keep the lower courts, but no need for SCOTUs, no constitution questions.
    Until it doesn't change every 8 years... fuck me... now alt right want dictatorships. What would Reagan think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Until it doesn't change every 8 years... fuck me... now alt right want dictatorships. What would Reagan think...
    Kind of a broad brush comment for a Chat board. As if it means all on the right.
    Typical liberal whining. TISSUE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Until it doesn't change every 8 years... fuck me... now alt right want dictatorships. What would Reagan think...
    It seems my query went right over your head.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Kind of a broad brush comment for a Chat board. As if it means all on the right.
    Typical liberal whining. TISSUE?
    yeah hand me the box, you've been using it for too long

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    It seems my query went right over your head.
    trying to equate obama with using EOs to a dictator, yeah I got it and it's not even close, next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    trying to equate obama with using EOs to a dictator, yeah I got it and it's not even close, next.
    You are, so warped, in your brain washed opinions and extreme hyperbole, I don't think you have a rational bone in your body.

    You ARE, a JOKE. People might as well as speak to the DUMP they just took before they flush it, it would be about the same as talking to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Just curious. Should we get rid of Congress and just have a President? Seems the new normal is to go with EOs regardless of whether Congress is of the same party or split.

    i guess that would be mostly a dictatorship, but if it changes every 8 years, guess everyone has a shot.

    Keep the lower courts, but no need for SCOTUs, no constitution questions.
    I mean what?

    In this instance, Trump would be doing what Congress authorized the POTUS to do.

    Unlike , for example, DACA where Obama was not authorized to make such a deal.

    But the reality seems to be that Trump isn't going to do it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    You think the wall is gonna be built in a few weeks? It will take years... so... yeah... we got the time to take a better perspective.
    Well, if you need years to build it .. the sooner the Dems stop their opposition, the better. Seems to me, then, that ANY delay is damaging !!

    It also seems to me that your statistical models are rendered meaningless. You can't have a situation where annual dithering results in decisions to see a threat one year, then cease to see it the next, stop and then restart building efforts. Such dithering would have to cause long-term chaos, with nothing achieved. Better to act in defence against a threat, than to periodically dither about whether statistics are showing you one.

    Your Left wing has an enormous amount to be ashamed of .. preferring to fight Trump, rather than consider the national interest.

    No surprise there, of course ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    You think the wall is gonna be built in a few weeks? It will take years... so... yeah... we got the time to take a better perspective.
    What are you talking about? Years LOL

    We're talking about 1100 miles of "wll" here. You pick the worst spots for illegal immigration and start there and build until you're out of funds for the year.

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