Sounds Like The UK Might Face A Government Shutdown Of It's Own

[FakeNewsSux]

Looks like the Deep State in London is doing all it can to thwart the will of the people:

REPORT: Anti-Brexit MPs Plot Coup to Stop UK Making Clean Break from EU

Remain-supporting backbench MPs are conspiring to upend Parliamentary protocol and seize control of Brexit from the Government in attempts to stop a WTO exit or even to prevent the UK from leaving the EU altogether, according to The Sunday Times.

A group of cross-party backbench, or non-Governmental, MPs are said to be tabling an amendment to change House of Commons rules so that backbenchers’ motions could precedence over Government business, according to sources speaking to the newspaper of record.
Downing Street is said to be concerned that that could result in laws being passed to stop the UK leaving the EU without a deal, a suspension of Article 50 (the process for leaving the EU), or even stop Brexit entirely.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...-eu-wto-terms/

[Drummond]

Looks like the Deep State in London is doing all it can to thwart the will of the people:

REPORT: Anti-Brexit MPs Plot Coup to Stop UK Making Clean Break from EU

Remain-supporting backbench MPs are conspiring to upend Parliamentary protocol and seize control of Brexit from the Government in attempts to stop a WTO exit or even to prevent the UK from leaving the EU altogether, according to The Sunday Times.

A group of cross-party backbench, or non-Governmental, MPs are said to be tabling an amendment to change House of Commons rules so that backbenchers’ motions could precedence over Government business, according to sources speaking to the newspaper of record.
Downing Street is said to be concerned that that could result in laws being passed to stop the UK leaving the EU without a deal, a suspension of Article 50 (the process for leaving the EU), or even stop Brexit entirely.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...-eu-wto-terms/

I was wondering if the UK's situation would get coverage here, & / or if there'd be interest in it.

Yes, we have one hell of a mess brewing.

Brexit. Voted for, on 23rd June 2016, and Article 50 invoked several months later, to start the process. We had two years to negotiate a good, proper, future trading deal with the EU that would've allowed the UK to exit without too much 'pain', granting us the autonomy we wanted.

The EU prevaricated, failed to meaningfully negotiate, for almost all of that time. But, intense and last-minute negotiations cobbled together 'a deal', which Mrs May had had to try and sell to Parliament and to the wider Public.

It has a fatal flaw ... 'The Backstop'. An arrangement buying time to resolve the sticky N Ireland border issue, one tying us in to treaty obligations with the EU if invoked. It'd stop full separation from the EU, and, it'd need the EU to agree to end it !!!

[I understand that Greece and Macedonia had such a deal themselves, with their own version of a 'backstop' lasting FIFTEEN YEARS ..]

Everyone expects Parliament to refuse to ratify the UK-EU deal. With that failure, AND moves made to make leaving without a deal an impossibility (!) ... we've got total dysfunctionality to look forward to.

Jeremy Corbyn (whose Socialist Labour Party is supplying a great deal of the opposition, and chaos !!) is, we're told, lining up to supply his 'solution' ... that of a vote of No Confidence in the Government. If the vote happens, and Corbyn wins it, our Government fails, and we must have a General Election.

[It was just such a vote which defeated Jim Callagahan's Government in 1978, ushering in Mrs Thatcher's victory in 1979]

Corbyn, if in Government, says he'd negotiate more 'competently' with the EU.

This defies the reality of the EU absolutely refusing to renegotiate a thing. Not one paragraph. Not one letter. They've told us that many times. But ... Corbyn, in common with Socialists generally, only sees his preferred 'reality'. He wants us to believe in it, too, and usher in a ruinous Socialist Government.

So, here we are ... facing a Constitutional crisis. One authored by EU intransigence and dodgy dealing ... and one, I'm afraid it must be said, aided & abetted by Mrs May's spinelessness in 'dealing' with EU bullying. We're stuck with one possible EU 'exit' deal - a deeply flawed one - and it'll no doubt cost Mrs May's career before much longer.

And so, our crisis (assuming the deal's rejection in Parliament) looms large, ever-worsening.

[CSM]

Once a nation surrenders it's sovereignty, in any way, shape or form, it is nearly impossible to regain it without drastic (and sometimes bloody) courses of action.

[Drummond]

Once a nation surrenders it's sovereignty, in any way, shape or form, it is nearly impossible to regain it without drastic (and sometimes bloody) courses of action.

Yes.

It's not surprising that the EU has treated us as it has. Obviously, it'll further its own interests, not ours. Our hope of a clean, trouble-free exit was never likely to happen.

We now have Mrs May telling us that failure to ratify the deal risks the end of the Brexit process entirely, with our remaining in the EU -- as a 2nd Referendum may also do.

That's a much-argued alternative ...that of a SECOND Referendum, which some would hope will reverse the previous 'leave the EU' decision.

This speaks for itself on two levels .. the less obvious one being to question what possible worth the first Referendum had, if its decision is rendered null and void by a second one !!

That aside .. the spectacle of our Parliament moving to vote against a process which facilitates Brexit (even if flawed) will be interpreted as a stand against democratic decision. Compound that with an overruling-2nd Referendum, and I think that trust in democracy ITSELF will be broken.

[CSM]

Yes.

It's not surprising that the EU has treated us as it has. Obviously, it'll further its own interests, not ours. Our hope of a clean, trouble-free exit was never likely to happen.

We now have Mrs May telling us that failure to ratify the deal risks the end of the Brexit process entirely, with our remaining in the EU -- as a 2nd Referendum may also do.

That's a much-argued alternative ...that of a SECOND Referendum, which some would hope will reverse the previous 'leave the EU' decision.

This speaks for itself on two levels .. the less obvious one being to question what possible worth the first Referendum had, if its decision is rendered null and void by a second one !!

That aside .. the spectacle of our Parliament moving to vote against a process which facilitates Brexit (even if flawed) will be interpreted as a stand against democratic decision. Compound that with an overruling-2nd Referendum, and I think that trust in democracy ITSELF will be broken.

It would seem that all nation members of the EU have abdicated their sovereignty. It sure didn't take long for what was supposed to be an economic "deal" to turn into a political one. Just my opinion, but placing the fate of your nation in the hands of those who have their own interests at heart ( rather than a particular country) is just asking for trouble. If it ends as you have described, the good citizens of the UK may want to consider holding a tea party!

[Drummond]

It would seem that all nation members of the EU have abdicated their sovereignty. It sure didn't take long for what was supposed to be an economic "deal" to turn into a political one. Just my opinion, but placing the fate of your nation in the hands of those who have their own interests at heart ( rather than a particular country) is just asking for trouble. If it ends as you have described, the good citizens of the UK may want to consider holding a tea party!

It's way too late for our version of a 'tea party'.

The real danger is that Corbyn and his Labour Party will succeed in using all this to gain power. THEY will be seen as the 'credible' alternative, claiming that its the Conservatives who created this mess.

They'll conveniently overlook the EU's own hand in this. They'll also insist that the fiction of renegotiation is within their remit ... it isn't.

They may also try to channel public dissatisfaction into a second Referendum, designed to overturn the first. This would, if successful, kill off Brexit.

That Member States (the clue's in the name ?) have abdicated their sovereignty, is a 'given'. It's been done by a slow, dripfeeding process, one that's continuing. The EU, after all, has its own Parliament, one that passes laws, then expects those laws to be written into statute in every Member State's legal system.

The EU is itself a mutation. Once, it was only a trading confederation. Then, the 'power brokers' moved in, rather as nature abhors a vacuum ... and created a power-base out of it. Decades later, they're rewriting laws, redefining social standards ... we even have a European Court of Human Rights, overruling judgments ... oh, and now, talk of a European Army.

.... and, in many cases, a common currency ... !!!

All this speaks for itself.