Stop paying congress members

[aboutime]

And is trump happy with that option?



Ah yes, because honor and patriotism pay the bills, as more and more people climb into debt and fall behind on due payments.

As if you really cared. You should investigate the REAL, TRUE facts about all of those POOR GOVERNMENT WORKERS, who live from paycheck to paycheck.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/money...b_8855508.html
Federal Employees Earn 50% More Than The Private Workforce
12/21/2015 03:21 pm ET Updated Dec 06, 2017

So...making 100K a year is such a terrible thing, they should be considered POOR?

Only the Uninformed know how to repeat LIBERAL LIES. Thanks for that Noir.
Unfortunately for you. I DEAL WITH HONEST, VERIFIED FACTS.

[Gunny]

My bank, a Federal Credit Union, has offered 0% Interest loans to all USCG members and
qualifying non-members to assist during this shut down.

Navy Fed usually does the same. I can recall back in the early 80s them paying us when Congress didn't. I think that was the year President Reagan put an end to that crap. Wonder why it's different now?

[High_Plains_Drifter]

This PARTIAL government shut down has a silver lining. After 30 days P. Trump can "trim the fat," so to speak, and permanently shut down a myriad of government agencies and offices that are really nothing more than parasites.

Our government is overgrown and bloated, a trimming would it a world of good.

[Gunny]

This PARTIAL government shut down has a silver lining. After 30 days P. Trump can "trim the fat," so to speak, and permanently shut down a myriad of government agencies and offices that are really nothing more than parasites.

Our government is overgrown and bloated, a trimming would it a world of good.

How is that?

[High_Plains_Drifter]

How is that?

Has President Trump suckered Democrats and the Deep State into a trap that will enable a radical downsizing of the federal bureaucracy?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...down_trap.html

[Gunny]

Has President Trump suckered Democrats and the Deep State into a trap that will enable a radical downsizing of the federal bureaucracy?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...down_trap.html

Answer: No. Looks good on paper. Now for the "Paul Harvey" ...

You think Trump can just fire the ghost in the machine known as the "bureaucracy", "Deep State", whatever ...? Good luck. Read the fine print. Trump may very well have the power to get rid of some jobs/positions. What he CAN'T get rid of is the people. You can't just "fire" a US Government employee. It requires enough time and effort that most people don't even try. Months of corroborated, documented incidences with formal written counseling which the most mediocre shitbag with a lawyer can get over on.

If the President does away with the jobs, he STILL has to provide for the people who hold them. Meaning other government jobs of equal pay if not position. They get put on Civil Service "have to hire" lists which bumps them ahead of other applicants for jobs. If they have to be retrained and/or relocated it's on the government's (taxpayer) dime.

And they've had a couple of centuries to sink their tentacles DEEP. Our elected officials are renters in DC. These people are the home owners and they don't go quietly and they have gamed the rules so well they make labor union "good ol' boy" networks look like kindergarten crap.

[Gunny]

@High_Plains_Drifter This guest's commentary reinforces my previous statement.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

@High_Plains_Drifter This guest's commentary reinforces my previous statement.

Yeah I heard Rush talking about it and actually didn't hear it all, but that just blows. Nobody should be above being fired, and if it's truly that hard to trim down the size of government, then we really are fucked.

[Gunny]

Yeah I heard Rush talking about it and actually didn't hear it all, but that just blows. Nobody should be above being fired, and if it's truly that hard to trim down the size of government, then we really are fucked.

That would be why those of us that had the misfortune of seeing it firsthand, in action have been repeatedly saying you aren't going to beat the bureaucracy. It IS the power in DC. They make their own rules and they aren't about to let anyone upset their apple cart.

This whole Russia Collusion thing is the result of the President, a transient, fucking with the apple cart. He's got 4-8 years invested in this then he's gone and another one comes in. These people are born and die in the Civil Service. You're talking about their lives. In DC, most of them are Democrats and black. You can't even call one lazy without the race card being pulled. Even if they are in fact lazy.

The career politicians don't mess with the apple cart. They'll be gone. Some bad media leaks here and there to the "right" (CNN, MSNBC, farah) people and they're done. And they are cronies from Hell. You apply for a CS job in DC and odds are REAL good the paper drill announcing the opening is just a formality as someone already has the "hook up" from the inside. Even if you're more qualified.

And you DON'T fuck with black, female CS workers. There IS no place to hide from them