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    Good to see honest scientists and professionals standing up for common sense and Data and Facts.




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    • Genetics—Mutations Cause Harm and Do Not Build Complexity: Darwinian evolution relies on random mutations that are selected by a blind, unguided process of natural selection. This undirected process has no goals. Being random, it tends to harm organisms and does not improve them or build complexity. As biologist Lynn Margulis, a member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences until her death in 2011, said: “New mutations don’t create new species; they create offspring that are impaired.”1 Similarly, the past president of the French Academy of Sciences, Pierre-Paul Grasse, contended that “[m]utations have a very limited ‘constructive capacity’” because “[n]o matter how numerous they may be, mutations do not produce any kind of evolution.”2
    • Biochemistry—Unguided and Random Processes Cannot Produce Cellular Complexity: Our cells are like miniature factories using machine technology but dwarfing the complexity and efficiency of anything produced by humans. Cells use miniature circuits, motors, feedback loops, encoded language, and even error-checking machinery to decode and repair our DNA. As Bruce Alberts, former president of the U.S. National Academy of Science, observed: “[t]he entire cell can be viewed as a factory that contains an elaborate network of interlocking assembly lines, each of which is composed of a set of large protein machines.”3 Darwinian evolution struggles to explain the origin of this type of integrated complexity. Biochemist Franklin Harold admits in a book published by Oxford University Press: “There are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only a variety of wishful speculations.”4
    • Paleontology—The Fossil Record Lacks Intermediate Fossils: The fossil record’s overall pattern is one of abrupt explosions of new biological forms, and generally lacks plausible candidates for transitional fossils, contradicting the pattern of gradual evolution predicted by Darwinian theory. This non-Darwinian pattern has been recognized by many paleontologists. University of Pittsburgh anthropologist Jeffrey Schwartz states: “We are still in the dark about the origin of most major groups of organisms. They appear in the fossil record as Athena did from the head of Zeus — full-blown and raring to go, in contradiction to Darwin’s depiction of evolution as resulting from the gradual accumulation of countless infinitesimally minute variations.”5 Likewise the great evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr explained that “[n]ew species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates.”6 Similarly, a zoology textbook observes: “Many species remain virtually unchanged for millions of years, then suddenly disappear to be replaced by a quite different, but related, form. Moreover, most major groups of animals appear abruptly in the fossil record, fully formed, and with no fossils yet discovered that form a transition from their parent group.”7
    • [B]Neo-Darwinian Evolution Has Been and Continues to Be Critiqued by Mainstream Scientists: Everyone agrees that microevolution occurs. But mainstream scientific and academic literature is saturated with skepticism about the neo-Darwinian claim that microevolution offers an adequate basis for justifying macroevolutionary claims. Günter Theißen of the Department of Genetics at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany wrote in the journal Theory in Biosciences that “while we already have a quite good understanding of how organisms adapt to the environment, much less is known about the mechanisms behind the origin of evolutionary novelties, a process that is arguably different from adaptation. Despite Darwin’s undeniable merits, explaining how the enormous complexity and diversity of living beings on our planet originated remains one of the greatest challenges of biology.”8 A 2011 paper in Biological Theory stated, “Darwinism in its current scientific incarnation has pretty much reached the end of its rope,”9 and in 2012, the noted atheist philosopher Thomas Nagel argued in an Oxford University Press book that “the materialist neo-Darwinian conception of nature is almost certainly false.”10Evolutionary biologist Stanley Salthe likewise describes himself as “a critic of Darwinian evolutionary theory,”11 which he insists “cannot explain origins, or the actual presence of forms and behaviors”12 in organisms. Biologist Scott Gilbert has stated in a report in Nature that “[t]he modern synthesis is remarkably good at modeling the survival of the fittest, but not good at modeling the arrival of the fittest,” and evolutionary paleobiologist Graham Budd admits: “When the public thinks about evolution, they think about the origin of wings and the invasion of the land, . . . ut these are things that evolutionary theory has told us little about.”13 Eugene Koonin writes in Trends in Genetics about the increasingly undeniable reasons to doubt core neo-Darwinian tenets, such as view that “natural selection is the main driving force of evolution,” indicating that “the modern synthesis has crumbled, apparently, beyond repair” and “all major tenets of the modern synthesis have been, if not outright overturned, replaced by a new and incomparably more complex vision of the key aspects of evolution.” He concludes: “Not to mince words, the modern synthesis is gone.”14 Because of such criticisms, Cornell evolutionary biologist William Provine believes the Darwinian claim that “Macroevolution was a simple extension of microevolution” is “false.”15

    There are many scientific objections to Darwinian evolution, and again, this is not to say that any particular signer of the Dissent from Darwinism list makes any one of these specific arguments. Instead, this article simply indicates some of the common scientific objections to Darwinian evolution.
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    Darwin is definitely outdated, modern evolution theory has moved on like Einstein from Newton.

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    None the less, it is still amusing to see the 'Darwin Award' annually for
    the biggest idiots who chose to make stunts or accidents that can kill them.

    "Natural Section" indeed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    None the less, it is still amusing to see the 'Darwin Award' annually for
    the biggest idiots who chose to make stunts or accidents that can kill the.

    "Natural Section" indeed!
    This we agree on

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    @Russ
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Darwin is definitely outdated, modern evolution theory has moved on like Einstein from Newton.
    Except modern evolution theory is as-flawed and silly as strict darwinism. Just no evidence to support the outlandish conclusions and its heavy reliance upon magic and mysticism.
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    pffftt.... we have evolved to the point that (as humans) we can select our gender despite the biological evidence to the contrary....
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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    Except modern evolution theory is as-flawed and silly as strict darwinism. Just no evidence to support the outlandish conclusions and its heavy reliance upon magic and mysticism.
    I'm not going to get into another debate because it will go no where like the old ones. But I would encourage you to visit a local university and meet with a biologist. Much of modern medicine is due to our evolution theory knowledge. I know you argue microevolution is fine but macro is not, but that is simply a lack of perception than a lack of science. You can also find many holes, but there are many holes in our theory of gravity. Yet, you take that for granted. Again, if you want to get to the meat of anything, visit with a local university expert actually doing the research rather than relying on youtube videos and suspect websites. This is all I will say.

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    Microevolution is nothing more than rebranding adaptation.

    Evolution, whether macro or micro, is a nonsensical farce based on magic and whimsical thought.

    There's less proof of evolution than there is of GOD and creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Microevolution is nothing more than rebranding adaptation.

    Evolution, whether macro or micro, is a nonsensical farce based on magic and whimsical thought.
    And creationism is not? We have vaccines every year for the flu because we understand evolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I'm not going to get into another debate because it will go no where like the old ones. But I would encourage you to visit a local university and meet with a biologist. Much of modern medicine is due to our evolution theory knowledge. I know you argue microevolution is fine but macro is not, but that is simply a lack of perception than a lack of science. You can also find many holes, but there are many holes in our theory of gravity. Yet, you take that for granted. Again, if you want to get to the meat of anything, visit with a local university expert actually doing the research rather than relying on youtube videos and suspect websites. This is all I will say.

    That's fine. And I do that a lot. And the more I see people make shit up and use their assumptions to create theory, then teach that made-upshit as fact to vulnerable kids, the more sickening I get.
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    Pete, have you opened your mind to Intelligent Design, and consulted with any experts at a local Bible college?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Darwin is definitely outdated, modern evolution theory has moved on like Einstein from Newton.
    Well that was a stupid comment. And pointless.

    Some things never change. You should fear Darwinism above all of us, Pete. Man's interference with it is the only reason you breathe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    Good to see honest scientists and professionals standing up for common sense and Data and Facts.


    • Genetics—Mutations Cause Harm and Do Not Build Complexity: Darwinian evolution relies on random mutations that are selected by a blind, unguided process of natural selection. This undirected process has no goals. Being random, it tends to harm organisms and does not improve them or build complexity. As biologist Lynn Margulis, a member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences until her death in 2011, said: “New mutations don’t create new species; they create offspring that are impaired.”1 Similarly, the past president of the French Academy of Sciences, Pierre-Paul Grasse, contended that “[m]utations have a very limited ‘constructive capacity’” because “[n]o matter how numerous they may be, mutations do not produce any kind of evolution.”2
    • [B]Neo-Darwinian Evolution Has Been and Continues to Be Critiqued by Mainstream Scientists: Everyone agrees that microevolution occurs. But mainstream scientific and academic literature is saturated with skepticism about the neo-Darwinian claim that microevolution offers an adequate basis for justifying macroevolutionary claims.
    Yes, I could not agree more with this excellent summary, especially the parts about mutation and macroevolution.

    A mutation is a genetic abnormality, a mistake. It causes harm, not benefits. There is not a single genetic mutation in history that anyone can point to as an example of added complexity or a beneficial result.

    Macroevolution depends upon beneficial mutations, and mostly to a ridiculous extent. For macroevolution to work, a primitive organism would have to be able to grow new limbs or a new organ in one step via a mutation, since partial limbs or a partial organ would not be an advantage that would make the mutant organism capable of 'survival of the fittest'. In other words, a creature with no arms would have to be able to have an offspring with fully formed arms. Its like a fairy tale.

    Microevolution is just accentuation of good traits, like the fastest gazelle living longer than the slower gazelles because it can outrun predators. Of course that happens. But it doesn't imply that macroevolution occurs.

    Another thing about mutations, by the way. Even if a beneficial mutation occurred, the only way it contributes to macroevolution is if the mutant is so much better than others of its kind that it outlives and outbreeds them all, essentially becoming the father (or mother) of the entire next generation of its species. A ridiculous premise. And even then, this assumes that the mutant can pass along its mutated genes the the entire next generation. Mutant genes in most cases are not even passed on to offspring, let alone passed along to an entire generation.

    Believing in a Creator is actually a lot more logical than believing in evolution, if you give it much thought.
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    “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of His hands”.

    Psalm 19:1
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