Dissenting Darwin

[pete311]

Darwin is definitely outdated, modern evolution theory has moved on like Einstein from Newton.

[Elessar]

None the less, it is still amusing to see the 'Darwin Award' annually for
the biggest idiots who chose to make stunts or accidents that can kill them.

"Natural Section" indeed!

[pete311]

None the less, it is still amusing to see the 'Darwin Award' annually for
the biggest idiots who chose to make stunts or accidents that can kill the.

"Natural Section" indeed!

This we agree on

[Abbey Marie]

@Russ

[darin]

Darwin is definitely outdated, modern evolution theory has moved on like Einstein from Newton.

Except modern evolution theory is as-flawed and silly as strict darwinism. Just no evidence to support the outlandish conclusions and its heavy reliance upon magic and mysticism.

[CSM]

pffftt.... we have evolved to the point that (as humans) we can select our gender despite the biological evidence to the contrary....

[pete311]

Except modern evolution theory is as-flawed and silly as strict darwinism. Just no evidence to support the outlandish conclusions and its heavy reliance upon magic and mysticism.

I'm not going to get into another debate because it will go no where like the old ones. But I would encourage you to visit a local university and meet with a biologist. Much of modern medicine is due to our evolution theory knowledge. I know you argue microevolution is fine but macro is not, but that is simply a lack of perception than a lack of science. You can also find many holes, but there are many holes in our theory of gravity. Yet, you take that for granted. Again, if you want to get to the meat of anything, visit with a local university expert actually doing the research rather than relying on youtube videos and suspect websites. This is all I will say.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Microevolution is nothing more than rebranding adaptation.

Evolution, whether macro or micro, is a nonsensical farce based on magic and whimsical thought.

There's less proof of evolution than there is of GOD and creation.

[pete311]

Microevolution is nothing more than rebranding adaptation.

Evolution, whether macro or micro, is a nonsensical farce based on magic and whimsical thought.

And creationism is not? We have vaccines every year for the flu because we understand evolution.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

No... worthless flu vaccines have nothing to do with farcical evolution... https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vacc...ccine-made.htm

And call it creation, call it SEEDING, call it what you want, but the most logic and intelligent answer as to how life got on this planet, especially man, is that we were PUT HERE. We surely didn't start out as some amoeba in a swamp that no one could explain how it got there, and then magically arrange into highly complex cell structures into a human being. The chances of that happening are statistically ZERO.

[pete311]

No... worthless flu vaccines have nothing to do with farcical evolution... https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vacc...ccine-made.htm

And call it creation, call it SEEDING, call it what you want, but the most logic and intelligent answer as to how life got on this planet, especially man, is that we were PUT HERE. We surely didn't start out as some amoeba in a swamp that no one could explain how it got there, and then magically arrange into highly complex cell structures into a human being. The chances of that happening are statistically ZERO.

That explains the manufacturing. Flu viruses mutate every year. How do we understand this process?

Seeding? Sounds like magic, no? Explain the specifics please.

[darin]

And creationism is not? We have vaccines every year for the flu because we understand evolution.

intelligent design as "how did we get here?" relies upon no mysticism; it is based on observation and rational thought. The flu example is bait and switch. nobody denies micro-evolotion or change within species. A flu virus will never become a liver. Nor a spider.

[pete311]

intelligent design as "how did we get here?" relies upon no mysticism; it is based on observation and rational thought. The flu example is bait and switch. nobody denies micro-evolotion or change within species. A flu virus will never become a liver. Nor a spider.

no mysticism? at some point it's about a creator waving a magic wand. evolution makes no prediction that a flu virus will become a liver or spider.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

And creationism is not? We have vaccines every year for the flu because we understand evolution.

Idiot. Evolution theory always starts with life already here. I guess in your infinite liberal fantasy world that is just
a very minor detail, eh?
As explained by my teacher decades ago, reptiles became birds over millions of years of evolving. I asked what spurred all these infinite number of adaptive changes to bring about that magical results. His answer, competition living space, need to escape predators, need for food, need to survive!
I then queried, so this took place gradually over millions of years. His answer, sure it could not have happened overnight.
I then asked what impetus is immense enough to stir great change that allows millions of years of gradual change-- why didnt they all die out-- you know these reptiles with feathers crawling thru mud and muck unable t fly yet-- because their bones were not light enough?
Would those mutations have all perished.

He was dumbfounded and replied, let us discuss this later--and we did most of the school year, by its end, he was converted to thinking evolution theory is pure bunk.
Whereas a genius like you will never see the light because you love the moronic explanation that absents God's hand in creation .. -Tyr

[pete311]

Idiot. Evolution theory always starts with life already here. I guess in your infinite liberal fantasy world that is just
a very minor detail, eh?
As explained by my teacher decades ago, reptiles became birds over millions of years of evolving. I asked what spurred all these infinite number of adaptive changes to bring about that magical results. His answer, competition living space, need to escape predators, need for food, need to survive!
I then queried, so this took place gradually over millions of years. His answer, sure it could not have happened overnight.
I then asked what impetus is immense enough to stir great change that allows millions of years of gradual change-- why didnt they all die out-- you know these reptiles with feathers crawling thru mud and muck unable t fly yet-- because their bones were not light enough?
Would those mutations have all perished.

He was dumbfounded and replied, let us discuss this later--and we did most of the school year, by its end, he was converted to thinking evolution theory is pure bunk.
Whereas a genius like you will never see the light because you love the moronic explanation that absents God's hand in creation .. -Tyr

In your query your teacher who likely was, what, a high school teacher with limited understanding, you make gigantic assumptions. Why would they all die out? Why are you assuming the entire planet was muck? Why would the feather mutation have perished completely? Feathers are not just for flight, but for insulation. Remember theropod dinosaurs (the reptiles that became birds) were warm blooded. Retaining heat is an advantage. Again, talk to an actual evolutionary biologist rather than some run of the mill mediocre high school teacher.