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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    "let there be light" is magic, is it not?
    No, it is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    evolution is the description of how life changes, I don't know how you confuse that with the big bang.
    I don't. But you are trying to as a deflection.

    The theory of evolution is an unproven, pseudo-scientific theory. Evolution is change to adapt to environment. Not just life evolves. I won't bother asking if you can see the difference since even if you did (it's 5th grade science) you'd deny it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    No, it is not.
    Interesting, please explain in detail the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I don't. But you are trying to as a deflection.

    The theory of evolution is an unproven, pseudo-scientific theory. Evolution is change to adapt to environment. Not just life evolves. I won't bother asking if you can see the difference since even if you did (it's 5th grade science) you'd deny it.
    uh, you're the one talking about the big bang...

    modern medicine is built off evolutionary principles and is not pseudo-science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    We wouldn't have modern medicine without applying the principles of evolution.
    That's a lie, just on it's face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    uh, you're the one talking about the big bang...

    modern medicine is built off evolutionary principles and is not pseudo-science.
    No, it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    We wouldn't have modern medicine without applying the principles of evolution.
    That is an incorrect statement. But DO explain. Or shall I? Been through this argument back in the day a thousand times, long before you.

    The theory of evolution and actual, scientific, proven by fact evolution are two, very different things. It's the practice of the left to try and confuse the two and/or flip-flop from one to other as it suits them trying to confuse and convince themselves they have won an argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    That is an incorrect statement. But DO explain. Or shall I? Been through this argument back in the day a thousand times, long before you.

    The theory of evolution and actual, scientific, proven by fact evolution are two, very different things. It's the practice of the left to try and confuse the two and/or flip-flop from one to other as it suits them trying to confuse and convince themselves they have won an argument.
    Moving the goal posts and conflating a lie with something that isn't related are well used tactics of the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    That is an incorrect statement. But DO explain. Or shall I? Been through this argument back in the day a thousand times, long before you.

    The theory of evolution and actual, scientific, proven by fact evolution are two, very different things. It's the practice of the left to try and confuse the two and/or flip-flop from one to other as it suits them trying to confuse and convince themselves they have won an argument.
    I've already given you the example of how we study flu strains yearly to create vaccines. The whole industry of genetics is supported by evolution theory.

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    Is there any room for God in evolution or vice versa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I've already given you the example of how we study flu strains yearly to create vaccines. The whole industry of genetics is supported by evolution theory.
    The flu virus has nothing to do with evolution, period, end of story. It ADAPTS to different forms of antibiotics, nothing more, it becomes resistant. How you think that somehow has anything to do with the farcical evolution theory is beyond me. You must buy into every quack science theory there is, just because it's not what you want to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Is there any room for God in evolution or vice versa?
    we still don't know about the moment of the big bang or how life started. so maybe there is room there if you want to extend out to those topics that are really outside evolution, but again, the theory of evolution only describes how life changes. it's a narrow objective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    The flu virus has nothing to do with evolution, period, end of story. It ADAPTS to different forms of antibiotics, nothing more, it becomes resistant. How you think that somehow has anything to do with the farcical evolution theory is beyond me. You must buy into every quack science theory there is, just because it's not what you want to believe.
    lol that is a main point of the theory. you don't understand evolution. end of story. it's embarrassing that you rant on about this.

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    Good thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    yup, I spent a lot of time volunteering in a youth group in my early 20s at a Pentecostal church and left after a pastor told me I deserved to be tortured in hell for eternity for having doubts. That is when I left.
    The part about volunteering with the youth group is nice to hear, and I'm sorry to hear about the pastor - he could not be more wrong and is/was in the wrong profession.

    What would your opinion of this debate have been back then? Did this pastor change your mind about this?
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