Glenn Beck: ‘We Are Officially at the End of the Country’ if Trump Loses 2020

[Noir]

However, the process is not easy nor was it intended to be. Once does not alter our form of government capriciously else we would soon no longer be a Democratic Republic.

Yep my handwritten note beside Article V says ‘Difficult by design. Red tape done right’. I can’t remember if that was my wording or my teachers, but I think i’ll take the credit (:

[CSM]

Yep my handwritten note beside Article V says ‘Difficult by design. Red tape done right’. I can’t remember if that was my wording or my teachers, but I think i’ll take the credit (:

Go ahead and take credit for the note. Give credit to our Founding Fathers for the design...

[jimnyc]

Just to have it in the thread for discussion. Or maybe we can even start a new thread on the merits and difficulty. I've highlighted a few areas that are pertinent to the amendment passing.

Constitutional Amendment Process

The authority to amend the Constitution of the United States is derived from Article V of the Constitution. After Congress proposes an amendment, the Archivist of the United States, who heads the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), is charged with responsibility for administering the ratification process under the provisions of 1 U.S.C. 106b. The Archivist has delegated many of the ministerial duties associated with this function to the Director of the Federal Register. Neither Article V of the Constitution nor section 106b describe the ratification process in detail. The Archivist and the Director of the Federal Register follow procedures and customs established by the Secretary of State, who performed these duties until 1950, and the Administrator of General Services, who served in this capacity until NARA assumed responsibility as an independent agency in 1985.

The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention. The Congress proposes an amendment in the form of a joint resolution. Since the President does not have a constitutional role in the amendment process, the joint resolution does not go to the White House for signature or approval. The original document is forwarded directly to NARA's Office of the Federal Register (OFR) for processing and publication. The OFR adds legislative history notes to the joint resolution and publishes it in slip law format. The OFR also assembles an information package for the States which includes formal "red-line" copies of the joint resolution, copies of the joint resolution in slip law format, and the statutory procedure for ratification under 1 U.S.C. 106b.

The Archivist submits the proposed amendment to the States for their consideration by sending a letter of notification to each Governor along with the informational material prepared by the OFR. The Governors then formally submit the amendment to their State legislatures or the state calls for a convention, depending on what Congress has specified. In the past, some State legislatures have not waited to receive official notice before taking action on a proposed amendment. When a State ratifies a proposed amendment, it sends the Archivist an original or certified copy of the State action, which is immediately conveyed to the Director of the Federal Register. The OFR examines ratification documents for facial legal sufficiency and an authenticating signature. If the documents are found to be in good order, the Director acknowledges receipt and maintains custody of them. The OFR retains these documents until an amendment is adopted or fails, and then transfers the records to the National Archives for preservation.

A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). When the OFR verifies that it has received the required number of authenticated ratification documents, it drafts a formal proclamation for the Archivist to certify that the amendment is valid and has become part of the Constitution. This certification is published in the Federal Register and U.S. Statutes at Large and serves as official notice to the Congress and to the Nation that the amendment process has been completed.

In a few instances, States have sent official documents to NARA to record the rejection of an amendment or the rescission of a prior ratification. The Archivist does not make any substantive determinations as to the validity of State ratification actions, but it has been established that the Archivist's certification of the facial legal sufficiency of ratification documents is final and conclusive.

In recent history, the signing of the certification has become a ceremonial function attended by various dignitaries, which may include the President. President Johnson signed the certifications for the 24th and 25th Amendments as a witness, and President Nixon similarly witnessed the certification of the 26th Amendment along with three young scholars. On May 18, 1992, the Archivist performed the duties of the certifying official for the first time to recognize the ratification of the 27th Amendment, and the Director of the Federal Register signed the certification as a witness.

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution

[Abbey Marie]

It won’t happen anytime soon. But trust that the Dems are playing the long game, and playing it well.

Look at the traction that abolishing the electoral college is getting. With the overwhelming percentage of media on their side, changes we never thought possible will come. Our only hope is in having a conservative USSC for a very long time.

[Noir]

It won’t happen anytime soon. But trust that the Dems are playing the long game, and playing it well.

Look at the traction that abolishing the electoral college is getting. With the overwhelming percentage of media on their side, changes we never thought possible will come. Our only hope is in having a conservative USSC for a very long time.

Its an odd sort of sentiment to ‘hope’ that the luck of the draw would stop something coming to pass. This is not to say that the popular opinion is the right one - but understanding and engaging with the genesis of that opinion is much more preferable than hoping.

[jimnyc]

Its an odd sort of sentiment to ‘hope’ that the luck of the draw would stop something coming to pass. This is not to say that the popular opinion is the right one - but understanding and engaging with the genesis of that opinion is much more preferable than hoping.

Understanding and discussing and engaging with the left is often not only a waste of time, but can be eye rolling.

EVERY gun crime seems to be the fault of the NRA. They are clueless about guns themselves and don't care to learn. They are clueless about regulations and laws and the outcomes and don't care to learn further.

And again, the disclaimer - every last one? No. Every time you engage them? No. I'm speaking in majority.

[jimnyc]

Coincidentally, I just got this in an email.


1 - Eleven teens die each day because of texting while driving. Maybe it's time to raise the age of Smart phone ownership to 21.

2 - If gun control laws actually worked, Chicago would be Mayberry.

3 - The Second Amendment makes more women equal than the entire feminist movement.

4 - Legal gun owners have 300 million guns and probably a trillion rounds of ammo. Seriously, folks, if we were the problem, you'd know it.

5 - When JFK was killed, nobody blamed the rifle

6 - The NRA murders 0 people and receives $0 in government funds. Planned Parenthood kills 350,000 babies every year and receives $500,000,000 in tax dollars annually.

7 - I have no problem with vigorous background checks when it comes to firearms. While we're at it, let's do the same when it comes to immigration, Voter I.D and Candidates running for office.

8 - You don't need a smoke detector; that's what the fire department is for. Now...if you think that sounds stupid, you know how I feel when you say I don't need a gun.

9 - Folks keep talking about another Civil War. One side knows how to shoot and has a trillion bullets. The other side has crying closets and is confused about which bathroom to use. How do you think that's going to end?

[Abbey Marie]

Its an odd sort of sentiment to ‘hope’ that the luck of the draw would stop something coming to pass. This is not to say that the popular opinion is the right one - but understanding and engaging with the genesis of that opinion is much more preferable than hoping.

Luck of the draw? There is an established process for both electing a President and nominating justices. Your comment seems to indicate that I lack understanding. Surely you didn’t mean to be condescending...

[Elessar]

I don’t live in Ireland.



Well it’s been a decade since I studied the American Constitution but I still have my (heavily noted) copy to hand, so I had to go all the way downstairs to pluck it off the shelf - if you do the same with your own I would direct you to ‘Article V’

Good luck with that opinion. What about my question of you fixing the UK
instead of telling us how to mend ours?

[Noir]

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Luck of the draw? There is an established process for both electing a President and nominating justices. Your comment seems to indicate that I lack understanding. Surely you didn’t mean to be condescending...

In a large part it’s luck of the draw - If a democrat became president in 2020 and Kavanaugh dropped dead of an aneurism in 2021 what could of been a conservative justice seat for 20+ years is suddenly a liberal one, with all the consequences that entails.

Good luck with that opinion. What about my question of you fixing the UK
instead of telling us how to mend ours?

There was no opinion in the text of mine you quoted?

Don’t worry, I can work on both at the same time (:

[darin]

If it wasn't for the electoral college, AND things like the 3/5ths compromise there's a solid chance slavery would not have ended in the USA.

Without the Electoral College - our nation sets itself up to be like the dystopian society of the Handmaid's Tale - except God is replaced by leftist religious stand-ins like 'The State' and 'Climate Change'.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

If it wasn't for the electoral college, AND things like the 3/5ths compromise there's a solid chance slavery would not have ended in the USA.

Without the Electoral College - our nation sets itself up to be like the dystopian society of the Handmaid's Tale - except God is replaced by leftist religious stand-ins like 'The State' and 'Climate Change'.

Bravo! You hit the nail dead on its head. The Electoral College is designed to stop a lurch towards pure democracy- pure democracy is mob-rule.
Big cities and big city values can not be allowed to rule over the freedoms and the justice our Constitution and our nation was set up to be and to insure!
As the lousy dems, libs, socialists all know its purpose , you now hear this magnified by media roar to do away with it.
For it at this time denies their damn goal to turn this nation into another corrupted, evil, third world, dictatorial hellhole.
Of course Noir poses the query and holds conservative Americans to be the obstructionists, preventing liberal nirvana--their insane fantasy of the perfect utopia!
When pointed out its been trued before and always ended up a cluster-fkkd up disaster they always say, but not tried by us-- as if they not human also -- not capable of the same result! Their famous, we are the gods we have been waiting for-- pretty much to me, explains how and why they are ffing insane ramble hat sane people know they are , IMHO.
And Noir ignores my posts because he has absolutely zero counter the the cold, hard and very naked truth I happily toss in his face.. -Tyr

[STTAB]

So the policeman comes to your home with a warrant for your guns, and you kill them?

No policeman will ever show up at my home with a warrant for my guns. If the government shows up to take them outside of that, yes they are getting killed to protect mine.

[jimnyc]

Here's one talking about it. Like I said, the citizens would never vote for this. Bernie's way would be the only way - and wouldn't lead to very good results.

When this man takes the 10 seconds and learns how to comb his hair, I'll take him seriously. Or when he's not so keen on taking rights away from people, instantaneously.

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Bernie Sanders Calls for Stripping of Second Amendment Rights Overnight

Late last night New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced a ban on "military style" semi-automatic rifles in the country.

"Today I am announcing that New Zealand will ban all military-style semi-automatic weapons. We will also ban all assault rifles. We will also ban all high capacity magazines," she said. "We will ban all parts with the ability to convert semi-automatic or any other type of firearm into a military style semi-automatic weapon."

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Democrat presidential candidate and socialist Bernie Sanders endorsed the move right away and said it needs to happen in the United States. He wants to strip Americans of their Second Amendment rights overnight.

Rest - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...-fiat-n2543477