Troops Wearing ‘Make Aircrew Great Again’ Patch Triggers Outrage from Left

[jimnyc]

First, I wanted to ask our service folks about these patches. While I'm confident they probably are against regs, how harshly is something like this punished? And how are these guys in this story doing so with so many of them?

@CSM @Gunny @High_Plains_Drifter @icansayit @darin

(not exluding many on purpose, just grabbed a few names from the current list at bottom of board to get a few vets in here.

Doesn't change how the left responds, whether against regs or not. Not long before they call them baby killers for wearing something like this.

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Troops Wearing ‘Make Aircrew Great Again’ Patch Triggers Outrage from Left

Mass outrage on the left ensued after photos emerged of United States sailors aboard the USS Wasp wearing “Make Aircrew Great Again” patches with President Trump’s likeness on them.

The images were first reported by White House reporters traveling with the president on his trip to Japan, where he stopped at a U.S. military base in Yokosuka:



After the photos surfaced online, leftist commentators and pundits began calling for the airmen to be punished, claiming they had violated the U.S. Military Code of Justice (UMCJ) for engaging in political activity while in uniform.

One man who calls himself a “liberal provocateur” tried to alert their commander:



He had also called them wearing the patch “fascism,” and asked if they had “armbands, too”:



Another leftist dug up photos to confirm whether the patches were actually real, and found they have been worn since at least September 2017:



One professor worried that the military was not loyal to civilian control and the Constitution, and was now “part of a presidential personality cult”:



Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-outrage-left/

[Elessar]

Questionable...especially if on a flight suit.

If on an outer coat or jacket, no problem I can see there.

Someone complaining that the patches are UCMJ violations are grasping at straws,
in my opinion. It would be up to the Command to make that decision.

Air Station Humboldt Bay used to have a Greatful Dead symbol on a patch,
but that was not promoting weed or smack.

[jimnyc]

Thanks for the answer! Figures the one person on the list I missed comes in and answers.

[Elessar]

Thanks for the answer! Figures the one person on the list I missed comes in and answers.

I do anxiously await the opinions from the list you made, though.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

If they were approved by the brass, then they're fine. But if they sewed them on without approval, they're out of USMJ 3510, which the punishment could just be told to take them off.

At least that's the way it would have been 32 years ago last time I was active duty.

But the fact that they pissed off the left is worth it's weight in GOLD.

[darin]

Two things - wearing non-authorized uniform accessories is not UCMJ stuff - it's whatever the Navy Regulation on wear-and-appearance of the uniform in. NAVPERS or something? In the Army is AR670-1. Now, what the folks are bitching about MAY be the Hatch Act - which prohibits 'politicking' while in uniform. Thus, Soldiers (using that term loosely to cover all branches) and even DoD Civilians cannot while on govt time and using govt resources from supporting or promoting or campaigning for a political post or election. Those folks CAN voice their opinions when asked candidly. The right of Freedom of Speech is not to be abridged. There is a line and every year, every Federal Employee should and likely is briefed - that includes Military folk.

To the issue of the patches: Servicemen and Servicewomen have a long-standing tradition of adopting cartoonish mascots or sayings to inspire morale and stuff. I am not a JAG officer nor a constitutional law or even military regulations specialist. However - with approval of their chain of command, the Servicefolk in question have broken no laws or rules. Short of somebody arguing the words "Make (anything) great again" is forever tantamount to endorsing President Trump, there's not foul here. If somebody were to make that claim, I'd consider also more-commonly-used and over-used words and phrases from politicians as tantamount to endorsement. Phrases such as "I" and "me" and "With your help" and "make america normal again"

Further - the comment:

"the military must be loyal to civilian control..."

That's stupid. It's actually obvious the Military members in question are supporting their Civilian controller.

[STTAB]

First, I wanted to ask our service folks about these patches. While I'm confident they probably are against regs, how harshly is something like this punished? And how are these guys in this story doing so with so many of them?

@CSM @Gunny @High_Plains_Drifter @icansayit @darin

(not exluding many on purpose, just grabbed a few names from the current list at bottom of board to get a few vets in here.

Doesn't change how the left responds, whether against regs or not. Not long before they call them baby killers for wearing something like this.

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Troops Wearing ‘Make Aircrew Great Again’ Patch Triggers Outrage from Left

Mass outrage on the left ensued after photos emerged of United States sailors aboard the USS Wasp wearing “Make Aircrew Great Again” patches with President Trump’s likeness on them.

The images were first reported by White House reporters traveling with the president on his trip to Japan, where he stopped at a U.S. military base in Yokosuka:



After the photos surfaced online, leftist commentators and pundits began calling for the airmen to be punished, claiming they had violated the U.S. Military Code of Justice (UMCJ) for engaging in political activity while in uniform.

One man who calls himself a “liberal provocateur” tried to alert their commander:



He had also called them wearing the patch “fascism,” and asked if they had “armbands, too”:



Another leftist dug up photos to confirm whether the patches were actually real, and found they have been worn since at least September 2017:



One professor worried that the military was not loyal to civilian control and the Constitution, and was now “part of a presidential personality cult”:



Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-outrage-left/

I don't believe those are official uniforms so the UCMJ doesn't apply, but they probably shouldn't be wearing those patches . As for screeching liberals, it's time to end them.

[pete311]

I don't believe those are official uniforms so the UCMJ doesn't apply, but they probably shouldn't be wearing those patches . As for screeching liberals, it's time to end them.

What do you mean by "time to end them"?

[STTAB]

What do you mean by "time to end them"?

I mean these liberal scum should be gathered up and summarily executed. Yes Pete I advocate euthanizing stupid people. They ruin this country.

[pete311]

I mean these liberal scum should be gathered up and summarily executed. Yes Pete I advocate euthanizing stupid people. They ruin this country.

Maybe concentration camps and gas chambers?

[jimnyc]

It's very simple. The military should not be politicized. They defend all Americans, not just Trump supporters.

WAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

It's very simple, nothing will happen and you have zero choice but to deal with it. And while they WILL defend your sorry ass, don't think the military doesn't see the lack of support and BS from the liberals. If they want to wear patches in order to raise their morale or for whatever reason, I stand behind them 100%. No way would any of this effect their readiness and abilities. So other than that, the only issue is with the patches offending panty wearers on the left.

[STTAB]

Maybe concentration camps and gas chambers?

Oh let me guess you're pro abortion right up until conception but I'm evil for wanting to euthanize stupid useless people? Time for your shower Petey.

[Elessar]

Maybe concentration camps and gas chambers?

What happened to those clients and trainees of yours that surfaced when the Mueller report came Out?

You said you were too busy to to respond, even though you said you would upon the release. You turned tail
and ran, stayed lurking and did not come back.

@pete311, you are a lying liberal coward!