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    Default The TREASONOUS Behavior by DEMOCRATS In The Nation Is Getting WAY OUT OF HAND.

    And I say TREASONOUS, but if this ISN'T treasonous, then PLEASE, TELL ME WHAT IS... and what in the HELL is going on in TEXAS? I thought Texas was CONSERVATIVE! But the anti American CRAP just keeps coming from TEXAS...

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    UNREAL: Texas School Board Votes To FIRE Teacher For Reporting ILLEGAL ALIEN Students


    The war on illegal immigration heated up today after a controversial decision by the Fort Worth Independent School Board, who unanimously decided to fire a teacher for attempting to report students that were not in the country legally.

    One could see how the teacher, Georgia Clark, could have thought she was well within her rights after comments by U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy Clark stating that schools can make the decision to report, or not report students and their families.

    Breibart reported on the story:

    At a hearing of the House Education and the Workforce committee, former illegal immigrant Rep. Adriano Espaillat pressed DeVos to explain her views on immigration enforcement.

    “Inside the school,” the New York Democrat asked, “if a principal or a teacher finds out that a certain child is undocumented, or his or her family members are undocumented, do you feel that the principal or teacher is responsible to call [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] and to have that family reported?”

    “Sir, I think that’s a school decision,” DeVos responded. “That’s a local community decision. And again, I refer to the fact that we have laws and we also are compassionate, and I urge this body to do its job and address or clarify where there is confusion around this.”

    Still, the Fort Worth teacher was not given any mercy.

    As reported by NBC:

    A Texas school board unanimously voted to fire a teacher who tried to report undocumented students in her school district to President Donald Trump through a series of public tweets — that she thought were private messages to the president.

    The Fort Worth Independent School District voted 8-0 to terminate the employment of Georgia Clark at a special meeting Tuesday.

    The unanimous vote of 8-0 is not surprising when you consider that the majority of the school’s population is made up by the Hispanic community.

    When “nearly 90 per cent of the students are Hispanic” at your school, that means that there is probably a similar racial makeup of the parent/teacher community that would be voting against you.

    Also, NBC Dallas Fort-Worth reported that this isn’t the first time that Clark had been investigated for racially-motivated comments, such as asking a student to prove that they were legal before they could use the restroom.

    If that weren’t enough, Clark accidentally made her comments publicly on Twitter in an attempt to communicate directly with President Trump, according to NBC:

    Clark, an English teacher at Amon Carter-Riverside High School, tweeted that the school she worked at had been “taken over” by “illegal students from Mexico” and that Trump was elected “on the promise that a wall would be built to protect our borders.” She also referred to “illegals” in her tweets.

    The tweets started gaining attention on social media last week, and Clark’s account was deleted May 29. She was placed on administrative leave after the school district became aware of them.

    According to district documents, Clark told an investigator she thought the tweets were direct messages to Trump and didn’t know they were public.

    Although things look pretty dire for the newly fired teacher, isn’t there a light at the end of the tunnel? I mean, she works for the teacher’s union, for crying out loud!

    As reported by Time:

    Clark has 15 days to choose to seek an appeal with the state, according to the outlet.

    Clark’s attorney, Brandon Y. Brim, told TIME in an email that she “intends to request a hearing for the purpose of contesting the proposed action against her contract.”

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    It seems for some unfathomable reason, she thought her tweets were 'private.' Just her and the president.

    She will get her hearing, but from the face of it, she broke her contract. Just like here, 'free speech' is not without caveats, decided by the person(s) in charge. There is an 'agreement' when one signs up. A contract, if you will. This was not her 'first offense,' of being in breach, nor the first discipline.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...=.b73e0be7e56e


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    It seems for some unfathomable reason, she thought her tweets were 'private.' Just her and the president.

    She will get her hearing, but from the face of it, she broke her contract. Just like here, 'free speech' is not without caveats, decided by the person(s) in charge. There is an 'agreement' when one signs up. A contract, if you will. This was not her 'first offense,' of being in breach, nor the first discipline.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...=.b73e0be7e56e
    So are teachers forbidden by contract to report suspected crime?
    If so, then it is no surprise to me that our kids are graduating from a great many public schools with about 5th/6th grade level of education(as judged from education standards of the 50's/60's/70's).
    If teacher are forbidden to be law abiding citizens and thus report illegals, then why are they teachers?
    Is there not any standard that a teacher be a moral person. be a believer in law and order?
    Be an upright citizen?
    I think I know the answer to these questions, but would appreciate hearing answer from a teacher....
    I admire teachers greatly, at least the teachers I had over 45 years ago, before the public school system went all to hell, thanks to liberalism and the socialist dem party.

    One of the greatest tragedies in this nation is its public school system that the liberal dem party has destroyed, IMHO.--Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    So are teachers forbidden by contract to report suspected crime?
    If so, then it is no surprise to me that our kids are graduating from a great many public schools with about 5th/6th grade level of education(as judged from education standards of the 50's/60's/70's).
    If teacher are forbidden to be law abiding citizens and thus report illegals, then why are they teachers?
    Is there not any standard that a teacher be a moral person. be a believer in law and order?
    Be an upright citizen?
    I think I know the answer to these questions, but would appreciate hearing answer from a teacher....
    I admire teachers greatly, at least the teachers I had over 45 years ago, before the public school system went all to hell, thanks to liberalism and the socialist dem party.

    One of the greatest tragedies in this nation is its public school system that the liberal dem party has destroyed, IMHO.--Tyr
    Actually teachers are not police and there is that pesky SCOTUS case mentioned in the article.

    Teachers cannot be all of the societal persons that they are currently assigned to be. Now you want to add cop.

    I left my position for the craziness that was expected. I was accidentally hit trying to prevent a fight. Had to buy over $1000 of supplies for the 215 kids I had every week. 44 kids in one class, 40 desks. Over half the families in poverty; the well off homeschool or send private. Rules and curriculum designed by the fed, Title I school. Have to make sure the kids have breakfast and lunch and take home dinner if they ask. Ran out of money for paper and pencils in March. No computers in classes for the kids. Reading level for class of 7th graders was third grade.

    Yep, now spend any free time calling ICE.


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    It's a shame. Illegal aliens are bleeding America, everything from health care that they use going into emergency rooms to having to teach them in Spanish.

    We shouldn't be doing that in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    It's a shame. Illegal aliens are bleeding America, everything from health care that they use going into emergency rooms to having to teach them in Spanish.

    We shouldn't be doing that in America.
    I’m between Phoenix and Tucson, no bilingual classes. They have a 6 week course for those who cannot speak English, then they are put in class. This the reading levels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    It's a shame. Illegal aliens are bleeding America, everything from health care that they use going into emergency rooms to having to teach them in Spanish.

    We shouldn't be doing that in America.
    ... which is why, surely, having Trump for a President must be such a godsend to you. His policy, the whole direction of his Presidency: 'AMERICA FIRST'. He's strong against the issue of your southern border. He's strong on the matter of admitting those who there's good reason to believe hold 'values' which makes them enemies of your country.

    Trump clearly has more work to do, though, and ensuring that teachers uphold the law, not defy it (!!) is clearly something deserving of his attention (or that of his Administration, at minimum).

    Tyr's spot on. If teachers act in a way which proves they're NOT guardians of the values they represent that they SHOULD be teaching, then they have no right to be teachers. By what possible right do teachers opt out of responsible behaviour, when surely as teachers, they're role models for the kids in their charge ?

    More ... to not report known illegals is to be complicit in their illegality (a point Tyr has addressed ... it isn't a matter of being 'police', but it IS a matter of being a responsible citizen). Arresting teachers who willfully do this, is surely no less than deserved ... and any case proven against an offending teacher should result in their never being allowed to teach again.

    I fail to see how that isn't blindingly obvious.

    Seems to me that President Trump has more than one swamp to drain.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Actually teachers are not police and there is that pesky SCOTUS case mentioned in the article.

    Teachers cannot be all of the societal persons that they are currently assigned to be. Now you want to add cop.

    I left my position for the craziness that was expected. I was accidentally hit trying to prevent a fight. Had to buy over $1000 of supplies for the 215 kids I had every week. 44 kids in one class, 40 desks. Over half the families in poverty; the well off homeschool or send private. Rules and curriculum designed by the fed, Title I school. Have to make sure the kids have breakfast and lunch and take home dinner if they ask. Ran out of money for paper and pencils in March. No computers in classes for the kids. Reading level for class of 7th graders was third grade.

    Yep, now spend any free time calling ICE.
    True, teachers are not police--but such is also true of citizens that are often asked to report crime.
    I have no doubt in my mind but that you are a truly caring and fantastic teacher.
    I also think you being so puts you in an ever dwindling group of great teachers in this day and age.
    One that harkens back to the standards and caring once so inspiring and beneficial to our children
    as was lived and displayed by those admirable and magnificent caring teachers of the past.
    The very same teachers that gave me such hope, in my own deprived childhood and its sad poverty.--Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    True, teachers are not police--but such is also true of citizens that are often asked to report crime.
    I have no doubt in my mind but that you are a truly caring and fantastic teacher.
    I also think you being so puts you in an ever dwindling group of great teachers in this day and age.
    One that harkens back to the standards and caring once so inspiring and beneficial to our children
    as was lived and displayed by those admirable and magnificent caring teachers of the past.
    The very same teachers that gave me such hope, in my own deprived childhood and its sad poverty.--Tyr
    Thanks for that. Seriously, it's not the teachers' or schools' job to report illegals, it's to teach. No matter the legality, the kids aren't the ones who need to be singled out.

    Arrest the employers, pressure the real police to report to ICE, not the kids.

    Especially on the borders, as AZ is, the pressure the schools are under is way to much to add cop roll. Personally, I believe that cutting things like feeding year round at school, would help. There should also be pressure on parents, legal or not, to provide basic supplies for their kids. Computers? No. Paper, pencils, notebooks? Yes. Make them responsible also for lack of care of school provided materials, including texts-SS text is $80 per. They were trashed, but the kids aren't held 'responsible,' as my kids were in non-Title I schools-as it should be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    It seems for some unfathomable reason, she thought her tweets were 'private.' Just her and the president.

    She will get her hearing, but from the face of it, she broke her contract. Just like here, 'free speech' is not without caveats, decided by the person(s) in charge. There is an 'agreement' when one signs up. A contract, if you will. This was not her 'first offense,' of being in breach, nor the first discipline.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...=.b73e0be7e56e
    Ft Worth was a nice place. When it was a cow town. Then the rich cattle owners and carpetbaggers had to build a place to live to get their monied asses away from the smell of cow shit and they built Dallas. /NYC/LA/Chicago/any other leftwingnut cesspool you wish to name. Now Ft Worth is nothing but the Poor White Trash capital of Dallas, where all those "cultured" and allegedly educated carpetbaggers keep their blacks, hispanics and any other not good enough folk.

    The city/county governments around such cesspools are all teeming with idiot lefties and their policies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    And I say TREASONOUS, but if this ISN'T treasonous, then PLEASE, TELL ME WHAT IS... and what in the HELL is going on in TEXAS? I thought Texas was CONSERVATIVE! But the anti American CRAP just keeps coming from TEXAS...

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    UNREAL: Texas School Board Votes To FIRE Teacher For Reporting ILLEGAL ALIEN Students


    The war on illegal immigration heated up today after a controversial decision by the Fort Worth Independent School Board, who unanimously decided to fire a teacher for attempting to report students that were not in the country legally.

    One could see how the teacher, Georgia Clark, could have thought she was well within her rights after comments by U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy Clark stating that schools can make the decision to report, or not report students and their families.

    Breibart reported on the story:

    At a hearing of the House Education and the Workforce committee, former illegal immigrant Rep. Adriano Espaillat pressed DeVos to explain her views on immigration enforcement.

    “Inside the school,” the New York Democrat asked, “if a principal or a teacher finds out that a certain child is undocumented, or his or her family members are undocumented, do you feel that the principal or teacher is responsible to call [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] and to have that family reported?”

    “Sir, I think that’s a school decision,” DeVos responded. “That’s a local community decision. And again, I refer to the fact that we have laws and we also are compassionate, and I urge this body to do its job and address or clarify where there is confusion around this.”

    Still, the Fort Worth teacher was not given any mercy.

    As reported by NBC:

    A Texas school board unanimously voted to fire a teacher who tried to report undocumented students in her school district to President Donald Trump through a series of public tweets — that she thought were private messages to the president.

    The Fort Worth Independent School District voted 8-0 to terminate the employment of Georgia Clark at a special meeting Tuesday.

    The unanimous vote of 8-0 is not surprising when you consider that the majority of the school’s population is made up by the Hispanic community.

    When “nearly 90 per cent of the students are Hispanic” at your school, that means that there is probably a similar racial makeup of the parent/teacher community that would be voting against you.

    Also, NBC Dallas Fort-Worth reported that this isn’t the first time that Clark had been investigated for racially-motivated comments, such as asking a student to prove that they were legal before they could use the restroom.

    If that weren’t enough, Clark accidentally made her comments publicly on Twitter in an attempt to communicate directly with President Trump, according to NBC:

    Clark, an English teacher at Amon Carter-Riverside High School, tweeted that the school she worked at had been “taken over” by “illegal students from Mexico” and that Trump was elected “on the promise that a wall would be built to protect our borders.” She also referred to “illegals” in her tweets.

    The tweets started gaining attention on social media last week, and Clark’s account was deleted May 29. She was placed on administrative leave after the school district became aware of them.

    According to district documents, Clark told an investigator she thought the tweets were direct messages to Trump and didn’t know they were public.

    Although things look pretty dire for the newly fired teacher, isn’t there a light at the end of the tunnel? I mean, she works for the teacher’s union, for crying out loud!

    As reported by Time:

    Clark has 15 days to choose to seek an appeal with the state, according to the outlet.

    Clark’s attorney, Brandon Y. Brim, told TIME in an email that she “intends to request a hearing for the purpose of contesting the proposed action against her contract.”

    https://ilovemyfreedom.org/unreal-te...medium=twitter
    First, Twitter is the damn devil, When will people learn this

    Second, this woman deserves to be fired just being too stupid to figure out the difference between a public Tweet and a private DM

    Third, this wasn't her first situation like this

    Fourth, she wasn't reporting suspected criminal activity to the government, she was tweeting to the President.

    Fifth, you will never ever ever find an example a child being prosecuted for being in this country illegally, so that argument doesn't hold water.

    Sixth, the reality is this woman is a racist, she's running around asking brown kids if they are citizens? My wife is brown, our two kids are brown. Everyone is a citizen of this country and NO ONE better ask one of my kids such a question.

    Seventh, The Supreme Court has already ruled on this issue, teachers do NOT enjoy their full Constitutional rights pursuant to their jobs. This woman was speaking to the President AS A TEACHER, IE pursuant to her job.

    She will not win her appeal, and she will not win in court if she sues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    And I say TREASONOUS, but if this ISN'T treasonous, then PLEASE, TELL ME WHAT IS... and what in the HELL is going on in TEXAS? I thought Texas was CONSERVATIVE! But the anti American CRAP just keeps coming from TEXAS...

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    UNREAL: Texas School Board Votes To FIRE Teacher For Reporting ILLEGAL ALIEN Students


    The war on illegal immigration heated up today after a controversial decision by the Fort Worth Independent School Board, who unanimously decided to fire a teacher for attempting to report students that were not in the country legally.

    One could see how the teacher, Georgia Clark, could have thought she was well within her rights after comments by U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy Clark stating that schools can make the decision to report, or not report students and their families.

    Breibart reported on the story:

    At a hearing of the House Education and the Workforce committee, former illegal immigrant Rep. Adriano Espaillat pressed DeVos to explain her views on immigration enforcement.

    “Inside the school,” the New York Democrat asked, “if a principal or a teacher finds out that a certain child is undocumented, or his or her family members are undocumented, do you feel that the principal or teacher is responsible to call [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] and to have that family reported?”

    “Sir, I think that’s a school decision,” DeVos responded. “That’s a local community decision. And again, I refer to the fact that we have laws and we also are compassionate, and I urge this body to do its job and address or clarify where there is confusion around this.”

    Still, the Fort Worth teacher was not given any mercy.

    As reported by NBC:

    A Texas school board unanimously voted to fire a teacher who tried to report undocumented students in her school district to President Donald Trump through a series of public tweets — that she thought were private messages to the president.

    The Fort Worth Independent School District voted 8-0 to terminate the employment of Georgia Clark at a special meeting Tuesday.

    The unanimous vote of 8-0 is not surprising when you consider that the majority of the school’s population is made up by the Hispanic community.

    When “nearly 90 per cent of the students are Hispanic” at your school, that means that there is probably a similar racial makeup of the parent/teacher community that would be voting against you.

    Also, NBC Dallas Fort-Worth reported that this isn’t the first time that Clark had been investigated for racially-motivated comments, such as asking a student to prove that they were legal before they could use the restroom.

    If that weren’t enough, Clark accidentally made her comments publicly on Twitter in an attempt to communicate directly with President Trump, according to NBC:

    Clark, an English teacher at Amon Carter-Riverside High School, tweeted that the school she worked at had been “taken over” by “illegal students from Mexico” and that Trump was elected “on the promise that a wall would be built to protect our borders.” She also referred to “illegals” in her tweets.

    The tweets started gaining attention on social media last week, and Clark’s account was deleted May 29. She was placed on administrative leave after the school district became aware of them.

    According to district documents, Clark told an investigator she thought the tweets were direct messages to Trump and didn’t know they were public.

    Although things look pretty dire for the newly fired teacher, isn’t there a light at the end of the tunnel? I mean, she works for the teacher’s union, for crying out loud!

    As reported by Time:

    Clark has 15 days to choose to seek an appeal with the state, according to the outlet.

    Clark’s attorney, Brandon Y. Brim, told TIME in an email that she “intends to request a hearing for the purpose of contesting the proposed action against her contract.”

    https://ilovemyfreedom.org/unreal-te...medium=twitter
    Let's think of what a teacher should do and be, just for a moment. Did this teacher?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Let's think of what a teacher should do and be, just for a moment. Did this teacher?

    My compassion runs out when it comes to who should be in this nation and who shouldn't. I guess it's as simple as that.

    Actually, my compassion is for the America people and this nation, not the people that have illegally invaded it. Compassion to me is sending all those who came here illegally to be deported. The cost to this nation's taxpayers is staggering paying for those people to be here, and it ain't right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    My compassion runs out when it comes to who should be in this nation and who shouldn't. I guess it's as simple as that.

    Actually, my compassion is for the America people and this nation, not the people that have illegally invaded it. Compassion to me is sending all those who came here illegally to be deported. The cost to this nation's taxpayers is staggering paying for those people to be here, and it ain't right.
    Though your jobs have been US Air Force; prison guard; mechanic, right? You have not been a teacher or involved with kids beyond your own, family, and neighbors.

    The lady you wrote about, claimed to be a teacher. Yep, right their with those that abuse kids and want easy access.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Though your jobs have been US Air Force; prison guard; mechanic, right? You have not been a teacher or involved with kids beyond your own, family, and neighbors.

    The lady you wrote about, claimed to be a teacher. Yep, right their with those that abuse kids and want easy access.
    No... my jobs have been Auto Mechanic, IBM Customer Engineer, USAF Integrated Avionics Instrumentation/Flight Controls Systems Specialist, Electro-mechanical Maintenance III(in a prison, not prison guard), Master Harley Davidson Technician, and Welder.

    If kids are resilient enough to be "rented" so that illegal aliens can take advantage of the flaws in our immigration laws, then sent back and RECYCLED for others to do the same thing again, then they can surely be deported the same as adults.
    Last edited by High_Plains_Drifter; 06-08-2019 at 03:28 PM.

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