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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    In this case it seems to me that the term 'treason' holds about as much water as using it against Obama for 'being an Islamic, non-birth American,' Saw a lot of that back when and from a few even in present time.
    Well... facts are facts, and I just go by the facts... and with your comparison, you've pretty much unwittingly given full support that STAABS claim of treason is very valid...





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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Well... facts are facts, and I just go by the facts... and with your comparison, you've pretty much unwittingly given full support that STAABS claim of treason is very valid...
    Thank you for that, I agree that STABB would agree with what you've posted. Chosen 'facts.'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Thank you for that, I agree that STABB would agree with what you've posted. Chosen 'facts.'
    Was there anything that wasn't true in what I posted?

    I just kinda felt "called out," so wanted to defend myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Was there anything that wasn't true in what I posted?

    I just kinda felt "called out," so wanted to defend myself.

    I'll let STABB dig those 'facts' for you. BTW, you have lots and lots of company, your not unique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I'll let STABB dig those 'facts' for you. BTW, you have lots and lots of company, your not unique.
    "You're," not your... OOOOOOOO k... now that I picked at ya... (Sorry, just couldn't pass that one up.)

    I know I'm not alone. I bet a good half the country or better doesn't believe obama was born in Hawaii, and do think he's a muslim. Pretty much just stating the obvious there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    "You're," not your... OOOOOOOO k... now that I picked at ya... (Sorry, just couldn't pass that one up.)

    I know I'm not alone. I bet a good half the country or better doesn't believe obama was born in Hawaii, and do think he's a muslim. Pretty much just stating the obvious there.
    Yep, missed that comma. apostrophe, dammit, apostrophe!

    I think your company count may be a tad high, but there are plenty of you!
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    20 pages... not one "fight." Gotta be some kinda record...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Calling something 'aid and comfort' does not make it so, it's you defining something based upon your opinion.
    And that's what juries are for. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    And that's what juries are for. Simple as that.
    Not really, that’s what prosecutors and grand juries are for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Not really, that’s what prosecutors and grand juries are for.
    That's true, but if you can't even agree that there is probable cause to suspect treason well then we can just agree that you are wrong and move on . Oh wait, the nice thing to say would have been "agree to disagree" I always get that wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    That's true, but if you can't even agree that there is probable cause to suspect treason well then we can just agree that you are wrong and move on . Oh wait, the nice thing to say would have been "agree to disagree" I always get that wrong.
    We agree that the 'decider' is that whom can bring charges. On the issue of 'treason' we agree to disagree. I do hope that was nice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    We agree that the 'decider' is that whom can bring charges. On the issue of 'treason' we agree to disagree. I do hope that was nice.
    We do agree that you have the right to be wrong, so there' that.

    I'm just curious though what to you constitutes giving aid and comfort to an enemy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    We do agree that you have the right to be wrong, so there' that.

    I'm just curious though what to you constitutes giving aid and comfort to an enemy?
    I take it to primarily be about someone like Benedict Arnold. Like impeachment, it's not to be abused as has become all too common. There are very good reasons that even the military does not bring that charge, even in questionable cases. When in doubt, don't charge treason. When actually convinced it's happened, capital offense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I take it to primarily be about someone like Benedict Arnold. Like impeachment, it's not to be abused as has become all too common. There are very good reasons that even the military does not bring that charge, even in questionable cases. When in doubt, don't charge treason. When actually convinced it's happened, capital offense.
    But that didn't answer my question. I asked what YOU would consider as treason? If a President were, for example , to send millions of dollars in cash to a country that is labeled by our own government as a state sponsor of terror, would that be treason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    But that didn't answer my question. I asked what YOU would consider as treason? If a President were, for example , to send millions of dollars in cash to a country that is labeled by our own government as a state sponsor of terror, would that be treason?
    I am happy with my answer. Not playing “What if,” on treason, the Constitutional definition and precedents work well for me.


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