The TREASONOUS Behavior by DEMOCRATS In The Nation Is Getting WAY OUT OF HAND.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

And I say TREASONOUS, but if this ISN'T treasonous, then PLEASE, TELL ME WHAT IS... and what in the HELL is going on in TEXAS? I thought Texas was CONSERVATIVE! But the anti American CRAP just keeps coming from TEXAS...

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UNREAL: Texas School Board Votes To FIRE Teacher For Reporting ILLEGAL ALIEN Students


The war on illegal immigration heated up today after a controversial decision by the Fort Worth Independent School Board, who unanimously decided to fire a teacher for attempting to report students that were not in the country legally.

One could see how the teacher, Georgia Clark, could have thought she was well within her rights after comments by U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy Clark stating that schools can make the decision to report, or not report students and their families.

Breibart reported on the story:

At a hearing of the House Education and the Workforce committee, former illegal immigrant Rep. Adriano Espaillat pressed DeVos to explain her views on immigration enforcement.

“Inside the school,” the New York Democrat asked, “if a principal or a teacher finds out that a certain child is undocumented, or his or her family members are undocumented, do you feel that the principal or teacher is responsible to call [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] and to have that family reported?”

“Sir, I think that’s a school decision,” DeVos responded. “That’s a local community decision. And again, I refer to the fact that we have laws and we also are compassionate, and I urge this body to do its job and address or clarify where there is confusion around this.”

Still, the Fort Worth teacher was not given any mercy.

As reported by NBC:

A Texas school board unanimously voted to fire a teacher who tried to report undocumented students in her school district to President Donald Trump through a series of public tweets — that she thought were private messages to the president.

The Fort Worth Independent School District voted 8-0 to terminate the employment of Georgia Clark at a special meeting Tuesday.

The unanimous vote of 8-0 is not surprising when you consider that the majority of the school’s population is made up by the Hispanic community.

When “nearly 90 per cent of the students are Hispanic” at your school, that means that there is probably a similar racial makeup of the parent/teacher community that would be voting against you.

Also, NBC Dallas Fort-Worth reported that this isn’t the first time that Clark had been investigated for racially-motivated comments, such as asking a student to prove that they were legal before they could use the restroom.

If that weren’t enough, Clark accidentally made her comments publicly on Twitter in an attempt to communicate directly with President Trump, according to NBC:

Clark, an English teacher at Amon Carter-Riverside High School, tweeted that the school she worked at had been “taken over” by “illegal students from Mexico” and that Trump was elected “on the promise that a wall would be built to protect our borders.” She also referred to “illegals” in her tweets.

The tweets started gaining attention on social media last week, and Clark’s account was deleted May 29. She was placed on administrative leave after the school district became aware of them.

According to district documents, Clark told an investigator she thought the tweets were direct messages to Trump and didn’t know they were public.

Although things look pretty dire for the newly fired teacher, isn’t there a light at the end of the tunnel? I mean, she works for the teacher’s union, for crying out loud!

As reported by Time:

Clark has 15 days to choose to seek an appeal with the state, according to the outlet.

Clark’s attorney, Brandon Y. Brim, told TIME in an email that she “intends to request a hearing for the purpose of contesting the proposed action against her contract.”

https://ilovemyfreedom.org/unreal-te...medium=twitter

[Kathianne]

It seems for some unfathomable reason, she thought her tweets were 'private.' Just her and the president.

She will get her hearing, but from the face of it, she broke her contract. Just like here, 'free speech' is not without caveats, decided by the person(s) in charge. There is an 'agreement' when one signs up. A contract, if you will. This was not her 'first offense,' of being in breach, nor the first discipline.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...=.b73e0be7e56e

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

It seems for some unfathomable reason, she thought her tweets were 'private.' Just her and the president.

She will get her hearing, but from the face of it, she broke her contract. Just like here, 'free speech' is not without caveats, decided by the person(s) in charge. There is an 'agreement' when one signs up. A contract, if you will. This was not her 'first offense,' of being in breach, nor the first discipline.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...=.b73e0be7e56e

So are teachers forbidden by contract to report suspected crime?
If so, then it is no surprise to me that our kids are graduating from a great many public schools with about 5th/6th grade level of education(as judged from education standards of the 50's/60's/70's).
If teacher are forbidden to be law abiding citizens and thus report illegals, then why are they teachers?
Is there not any standard that a teacher be a moral person. be a believer in law and order?
Be an upright citizen?
I think I know the answer to these questions, but would appreciate hearing answer from a teacher....
I admire teachers greatly, at least the teachers I had over 45 years ago, before the public school system went all to hell, thanks to liberalism and the socialist dem party.

One of the greatest tragedies in this nation is its public school system that the liberal dem party has destroyed, IMHO.--Tyr

[Kathianne]

So are teachers forbidden by contract to report suspected crime?
If so, then it is no surprise to me that our kids are graduating from a great many public schools with about 5th/6th grade level of education(as judged from education standards of the 50's/60's/70's).
If teacher are forbidden to be law abiding citizens and thus report illegals, then why are they teachers?
Is there not any standard that a teacher be a moral person. be a believer in law and order?
Be an upright citizen?
I think I know the answer to these questions, but would appreciate hearing answer from a teacher....
I admire teachers greatly, at least the teachers I had over 45 years ago, before the public school system went all to hell, thanks to liberalism and the socialist dem party.

One of the greatest tragedies in this nation is its public school system that the liberal dem party has destroyed, IMHO.--Tyr

Actually teachers are not police and there is that pesky SCOTUS case mentioned in the article.

Teachers cannot be all of the societal persons that they are currently assigned to be. Now you want to add cop.

I left my position for the craziness that was expected. I was accidentally hit trying to prevent a fight. Had to buy over $1000 of supplies for the 215 kids I had every week. 44 kids in one class, 40 desks. Over half the families in poverty; the well off homeschool or send private. Rules and curriculum designed by the fed, Title I school. Have to make sure the kids have breakfast and lunch and take home dinner if they ask. Ran out of money for paper and pencils in March. No computers in classes for the kids. Reading level for class of 7th graders was third grade.

Yep, now spend any free time calling ICE.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

It's a shame. Illegal aliens are bleeding America, everything from health care that they use going into emergency rooms to having to teach them in Spanish.

We shouldn't be doing that in America.

[Kathianne]

It's a shame. Illegal aliens are bleeding America, everything from health care that they use going into emergency rooms to having to teach them in Spanish.

We shouldn't be doing that in America.

I’m between Phoenix and Tucson, no bilingual classes. They have a 6 week course for those who cannot speak English, then they are put in class. This the reading levels.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I’m between Phoenix and Tucson, no bilingual classes. They have a 6 week course for those who cannot speak English, then they are put in class. This the reading levels.

That's fantastic, but I know in CA they teach them in Spanish. No matter how you look at it though, it's costing us American taxpayers a lot of money to teach these kids that are illegally in this country.

Our generosity is killing us...

The Elephant in the Classroom: Mass Immigration's Impact on Public Education

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publica...blic-education

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Actually teachers are not police and there is that pesky SCOTUS case mentioned in the article.

Teachers cannot be all of the societal persons that they are currently assigned to be. Now you want to add cop.

I left my position for the craziness that was expected. I was accidentally hit trying to prevent a fight. Had to buy over $1000 of supplies for the 215 kids I had every week. 44 kids in one class, 40 desks. Over half the families in poverty; the well off homeschool or send private. Rules and curriculum designed by the fed, Title I school. Have to make sure the kids have breakfast and lunch and take home dinner if they ask. Ran out of money for paper and pencils in March. No computers in classes for the kids. Reading level for class of 7th graders was third grade.

Yep, now spend any free time calling ICE.

True, teachers are not police--but such is also true of citizens that are often asked to report crime.
I have no doubt in my mind but that you are a truly caring and fantastic teacher.
I also think you being so puts you in an ever dwindling group of great teachers in this day and age.
One that harkens back to the standards and caring once so inspiring and beneficial to our children
as was lived and displayed by those admirable and magnificent caring teachers of the past.
The very same teachers that gave me such hope, in my own deprived childhood and its sad poverty.--Tyr

[Kathianne]

True, teachers are not police--but such is also true of citizens that are often asked to report crime.
I have no doubt in my mind but that you are a truly caring and fantastic teacher.
I also think you being so puts you in an ever dwindling group of great teachers in this day and age.
One that harkens back to the standards and caring once so inspiring and beneficial to our children
as was lived and displayed by those admirable and magnificent caring teachers of the past.
The very same teachers that gave me such hope, in my own deprived childhood and its sad poverty.--Tyr

Thanks for that. Seriously, it's not the teachers' or schools' job to report illegals, it's to teach. No matter the legality, the kids aren't the ones who need to be singled out.

Arrest the employers, pressure the real police to report to ICE, not the kids.

Especially on the borders, as AZ is, the pressure the schools are under is way to much to add cop roll. Personally, I believe that cutting things like feeding year round at school, would help. There should also be pressure on parents, legal or not, to provide basic supplies for their kids. Computers? No. Paper, pencils, notebooks? Yes. Make them responsible also for lack of care of school provided materials, including texts-SS text is $80 per. They were trashed, but the kids aren't held 'responsible,' as my kids were in non-Title I schools-as it should be.

[Drummond]

It's a shame. Illegal aliens are bleeding America, everything from health care that they use going into emergency rooms to having to teach them in Spanish.

We shouldn't be doing that in America.

... which is why, surely, having Trump for a President must be such a godsend to you. His policy, the whole direction of his Presidency: 'AMERICA FIRST'. He's strong against the issue of your southern border. He's strong on the matter of admitting those who there's good reason to believe hold 'values' which makes them enemies of your country.

Trump clearly has more work to do, though, and ensuring that teachers uphold the law, not defy it (!!) is clearly something deserving of his attention (or that of his Administration, at minimum).

Tyr's spot on. If teachers act in a way which proves they're NOT guardians of the values they represent that they SHOULD be teaching, then they have no right to be teachers. By what possible right do teachers opt out of responsible behaviour, when surely as teachers, they're role models for the kids in their charge ?

More ... to not report known illegals is to be complicit in their illegality (a point Tyr has addressed ... it isn't a matter of being 'police', but it IS a matter of being a responsible citizen). Arresting teachers who willfully do this, is surely no less than deserved ... and any case proven against an offending teacher should result in their never being allowed to teach again.

I fail to see how that isn't blindingly obvious.

Seems to me that President Trump has more than one swamp to drain.

[Noir]

If teachers act in a way which proves they're NOT guardians of the values they represent that they SHOULD be teaching, then they have no right to be teachers.

Remarkable that you would post (or indeed believe) such a sentiment giving I know you know the character of Kathianne. I think you should apologetically retract this comment and consider why you believe it.

[Drummond]

Remarkable that you would post (or indeed believe) such a sentiment giving I know you know the character of Kathianne. I think you should apologetically retract this comment and consider why you believe it.

Doing a bit of stirring, there, Noir ? H'mm .. ??

A pity that you would stoop to this.

I'm actually going to repost the comment you seemingly 'object' to ... because I really think you should give more thought to both our positions !! Consider - very carefully, this time - what it is you're objecting to:

If teachers act in a way which proves they're NOT guardians of the values they represent that they SHOULD be teaching, then they have no right to be teachers.

For the life of me, I can't see what reputable argument could be offered which counters what I've said. Are you actually joking ?? You can only be suggesting that teachers should NOT live up to such a standard, and in not living up to it, they nonetheless continue on, credibly, as teachers of standards they don't consider themselves to be bound by.

What kind of example would THAT set ????

I think you're joking. You must be. Either that, or you're exhibiting something highly revealing about the Leftie mind !!

.... a 'do as I say, and not what I do' approach .. ?

I don't need to comment further. Rather, Noir, I invite you - if you even can - to defend your position.

[If you're joking ... good one. You got me !]

[Kathianne]

Doing a bit of stirring, there, Noir ? H'mm .. ??

A pity that you would stoop to this.

I'm actually going to repost the comment you seemingly 'object' to ... because I really think you should give more thought to both our positions !! Consider - very carefully, this time - what it is you're objecting to:



For the life of me, I can't see what reputable argument could be offered which counters what I've said. Are you actually joking ?? You can only be suggesting that teachers should NOT live up to such a standard, and in not living up to it, they nonetheless continue on, credibly, as teachers of standards they don't consider themselves to be bound by.

What kind of example would THAT set ????

I think you're joking. You must be. Either that, or you're exhibiting something highly revealing about the Leftie mind !!

.... a 'do as I say, and not what I do' approach .. ?

I don't need to comment further. Rather, Noir, I invite you - if you even can - to defend your position.

[If you're joking ... good one. You got me !]

I have no DOUBT that you read the article I posted and it seems you feel that teachers should just ignore the SCOTUS decision, the highest court in the land.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Remarkable that you would post (or indeed believe) such a sentiment giving I know you know the character of Kathianne. I think you should apologetically retract this comment and consider why you believe it.

Hold on there, jackanape. He made no such allegation against Kathianne, he said if teachers ( as in a very broad and general statement ), etc.....
Just as I make comments about bad cops without insulting my own nephew who is a cop.
I suggest that you stop trying to impugn his character with such garbage as you just spit out in your post.....
And just who are you to cast such condemnations and then demand an apology!!??
Especially so, when no such condemnation is justified??
I make the same statement against modern day American teachers as a whole-- which obviously does not include each and every teacher!
For you to pretend that it does is either very disingenuous to serve a personal agenda of yours or else childishly ignorant, IMHO..-Tyr

[Kathianne]

Hold on there, jackanape. He made no such allegation against Kathianne, he said if teachers ( as in a very broad and general statement ), etc.....
Just as I make comments about bad cops without insulting my own nephew who is a cop.
I suggest that you stop trying to impugn his character with such garbage as you just spit out in your post.....
And just who are you to cast such condemnations and then demand an apology!!??
Especially so, when no such condemnation is justified??
I make the same statement against modern day American teachers as a whole-- which obviously does not include each and every teacher!
For you to pretend that it does is either very disingenuous to serve a personal agenda of yours or else childishly ignorant, IMHO..-Tyr

I really did appreciate your comments after my response. However, both you and Drummond stated that if teachers DIDN'T do what was being said regarding ICE reporting, in spite of the SCOTUS ruling, then they shouldn't be teaching.