Harvard Rescinds Admission To Conservative Kyle Kashuv

[jimnyc]

So I wonder who pushed out there for this reversal? Someone wasn't pleased and this is where you end up.

The kid made a mistake at 16 years old. Then apologized and moved forward, getting grades good enough to get accepted into Harvard. Then someone wants to already harm a kids life.

And more like "irrevocably non-tolerant liberal" schools out there.

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Harvard Rescinds Admission To Conservative Kyle Kashuv Over Private Racist Remarks He Wrote At 16, Despite Apology And Evidence Of Growth. This Is Disgusting.

Our universities may be irrevocably broken.

On Monday, Parkland survivor and outspoken conservative Kyle Kashuv announced that Harvard University had withdrawn his admission from the school over the revelation of racist, offensive, idiotic posts written on a private Google document with friends when he was sixteen years old. Never mind that Kashuv apologized publicly for the comments; never mind that his public behavior has evinced no racism whatsoever.

Forgiveness must be withheld.

Kashuv explained:
















Rest - https://www.dailywire.com/news/47971...le-ben-shapiro

[STTAB]

The ONLY problem I have with something like this is that you rarely if ever see things like this happen to anyone who isn't conservative. This is an example of why I don't support going back years and decades to comb over social media sites to make sure people are politically correct, even if it's people I don't like.

[Elessar]

This rejection is ignorant and stupid.

He is not an outspoken liberal wind-up toy like so many others.

What is wrong with his presence, liberals?

Because he does not speak like you and your narrow-minded views?

Being liberal used to mean a person observed all thoughts and ideas.
Now it has become a bastion of socialists intolerant of opposing thoughts
and opinions.

How low can the liberals sink?

[Noir]

Speech had consequences, i was unaware of this guy until this thread - but looking up some of the comments he has made I am not surprised that an institution like Harvard has withdrawn his acceptance. Somewhat of a shame if he has shown genuine growth from the bile he was posting, but ultimately unsurprising.

[Kathianne]

Speech had consequences, i was unaware of this guy until this thread - but looking up some of the comments he has made I am not surprised that an institution like Harvard has withdrawn his acceptance. Somewhat of a shame if he has shown genuine growth from the bile he was posting, but ultimately unsurprising.

Actually I don't think it reflects well on the institution. 1. He apologized. 2. There is a huge difference between a 16 year old with peers on social media and an 18 year old. Now if one tried to sell me on such a difference between a 20 year old and a 22 year old, I might be harsher. The age at the lower end is a huge factor. 3. Harvard should have more confidence in itself as an institution and the student body as a whole. Isn't part of their entire reputation built on how differences and leadership are used in the forming of minds? Is one student or 100 going to change that or is the university going to help them grow?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Speech had consequences, i was unaware of this guy until this thread - but looking up some of the comments he has made I am not surprised that an institution like Harvard has withdrawn his acceptance. Somewhat of a shame if he has shown genuine growth from the bile he was posting, but ultimately unsurprising.

I am not surprised that an institution like Harvard has withdrawn his acceptance.

Yes, you would be , since you being liberal have such a high opinion of Harvard. While many of
us truly educated not only by great teachers, father time, reality and continuous education for
over 50 years now but also by seeing life and this dark world for that which it truly is, have no such
admiration for Harvard and what it has become.
Universities are spinning out graduates that are far less educated than were the average high school
graduates of 1938. And that is a fact. One need only take a test given to senior high school students
of the 20's/30's to see that very sad, very obvious and quite glaring reality my friend.
As you now so highly praise/admire Harvard for its liberal ideology and its past glory, you blindly think it a
great marvel, a fantastic university because its administration/politics are now so Liberal/Socialist/Marxist-
leaning.
Truth is it has the prestige because of its reputation from well over half a century back and further.
As it functions today, I would not want my son to go there at all. --Tyr

[STTAB]

Yes, you would be , since you being liberal have such a high opinion of Harvard. While many of
us truly educated not only by great teachers, father time, reality and continuous education for
over 50 years now but also by seeing life and this dark world for that which it truly is, have no such
admiration for Harvard and what it has become.
Universities are spinning out graduates that are far less educated than were the average high school
graduates of 1938. And that is a fact. One need only take a test given to senior high school students
of the 20's/30's to see that very sad, very obvious and quite glaring reality my friend.
As you now so highly praise/admire Harvard for its liberal ideology and its past glory, you blindly think it a
great marvel, a fantastic university because its administration/politics are now so Liberal/Socialist/Marxist-
leaning.
Truth is it has the prestige because of its reputation from well over half a century back and further.
As it functions today, I would not want my son to go there at all. --Tyr

Only an idiot wouldn't want their child to have a Harvard degree LOL they have their issues , but they are still Harvard.

[Noir]

Actually I don't think it reflects well on the institution. 1. He apologized.

As I mentioned if there has been growth after the situation then it’s a shame, but presenting that growth is not easy done and if all you’re left with is ‘but I apologised’ that might not be considered enough. I think it’s worth staying that he wasn’t telling an offensive joke or reacting poorly to a situation etc, in one of the images I saw he posted the N word a dozen times.

There’s also ofciurse that fact of ‘only apologising because he got caught’ as it appears that up until a few weeks ago he /forgot/ the kinds of messages he liked to post with his friends. Which is odd, imo.

2. There is a huge difference between a 16 year old with peers on social media and an 18 year old. Now if one tried to sell me on such a difference between a 20 year old and a 22 year old, I might be harsher. The age at the lower end is a huge factor.

Here we simply disagree, I think 16 years old is plenty old enough for him to of known that what he was doing was wrong.

Also, I know from my schooling of someone was looking to go to a top University like Oxford/Cambridge etc then the would know about that path from 13/14 and be actively pursuing it throughout the next few years, so either the American education system is fundamentally different, or this guy didn’t realise he was aiming for Harvard until very late in his academic studies, or he knew he was pursuing a path to Harvard while making the posts he did about black students etc.

3. Harvard should have more confidence in itself as an institution and the student body as a whole. Isn't part of their entire reputation built on how differences and leadership are used in the forming of minds? Is one student or 100 going to change that or is the university going to help them grow?

By the ‘its only one student’ metric they should never turn a student away for their personal life, which we can agree to disagree on, but i’d be surprised if we do.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Actually I don't think it reflects well on the institution. 1. He apologized. 2. There is a huge difference between a 16 year old with peers on social media and an 18 year old. Now if one tried to sell me on such a difference between a 20 year old and a 22 year old, I might be harsher. The age at the lower end is a huge factor. 3. Harvard should have more confidence in itself as an institution and the student body as a whole. Isn't part of their entire reputation built on how differences and leadership are used in the forming of minds? Is one student or 100 going to change that or is the university going to help them grow?

On this my friend, we agree.
I must ask , are all the black kids judged by their record on what they may have said at age 16?
We both know the answer to that question..
The answer is, they are primarily judged on skin color, as the primary admissions consideration.... liberalism at its best, eh?
And in that statement there is no negative insinuation upon their academic abilities.
Is this how Harvard teaches tolerance and forgiveness, and the benefits of diversity?
By deciding o single out this kid for a transgression or lack of civil thought he has at age 16?
If so- why stop at 16 years old, why not go back to 41, 12 or even 10 years old>?-- and apply that to- ALL. ?
Of course we know why...
As it is not about keeping standards, fairness, justice or doing what is right..
It is about the usual and modern political correctness, liberal ideology and the constant need to punish ones opposition born
from the usual darkness in the hearts and souls of those that so faithfully oppose/hate the light, the good and the best in decency and society/our modern culture, IMHO. -Tyr

[jimnyc]

Speech had consequences, i was unaware of this guy until this thread - but looking up some of the comments he has made I am not surprised that an institution like Harvard has withdrawn his acceptance. Somewhat of a shame if he has shown genuine growth from the bile he was posting, but ultimately unsurprising.

Amazing how speech has consequences - and yet the left, with their own speech & the horrid things some spit out - I NEVER see anyone complain about it, and sureasfuck not here!

And I have zero doubt that this has really anything to do with any racist comments - but rather his continued speaking out in support of guns, his gun rights views & his appearances and such on those views.

[Kathianne]

As I mentioned if there has been growth after the situation then it’s a shame, but presenting that growth is not easy done and if all you’re left with is ‘but I apologised’ that might not be considered enough. I think it’s worth staying that he wasn’t telling an offensive joke or reacting poorly to a situation etc, in one of the images I saw he posted the N word a dozen times.

There’s also ofciurse that fact of ‘only apologising because he got caught’ as it appears that up until a few weeks ago he /forgot/ the kinds of messages he liked to post with his friends. Which is odd, imo.



Here we simply disagree, I think 16 years old is plenty old enough for him to of known that what he was doing was wrong.

Also, I know from my schooling of someone was looking to go to a top University like Oxford/Cambridge etc then the would know about that path from 13/14 and be actively pursuing it throughout the next few years, so either the American education system is fundamentally different, or this guy didn’t realise he was aiming for Harvard until very late in his academic studies, or he knew he was pursuing a path to Harvard while making the posts he did about black students etc.



By the ‘its only one student’ metric they should never turn a student away for their personal life, which we can agree to disagree on, but i’d be surprised if we do.

We are going to 'agree to disagree.' I'm not defending anything he wrote, though only someone very callous would lose site that he was 16 and the shooting had an impact on him. Some that age would become anti-gun, he went the opposite, not unheard of for a mid-range teen. The language he used, again I would never excuse, but the whole thing about teens, especially boys, especially when preening before a groups of peers, is to shock. He did that, to the nth degree.

While his 'apology' doesn't carry weight for you, it should have for Harvard. It spoke to a realization, even if not heartfelt, that it was necessary. That alone marks his behavior as manageable.

[STTAB]

As I mentioned if there has been growth after the situation then it’s a shame, but presenting that growth is not easy done and if all you’re left with is ‘but I apologised’ that might not be considered enough. I think it’s worth staying that he wasn’t telling an offensive joke or reacting poorly to a situation etc, in one of the images I saw he posted the N word a dozen times.

There’s also ofciurse that fact of ‘only apologising because he got caught’ as it appears that up until a few weeks ago he /forgot/ the kinds of messages he liked to post with his friends. Which is odd, imo.



Here we simply disagree, I think 16 years old is plenty old enough for him to of known that what he was doing was wrong.

Also, I know from my schooling of someone was looking to go to a top University like Oxford/Cambridge etc then the would know about that path from 13/14 and be actively pursuing it throughout the next few years, so either the American education system is fundamentally different, or this guy didn’t realise he was aiming for Harvard until very late in his academic studies, or he knew he was pursuing a path to Harvard while making the posts he did about black students etc.



By the ‘its only one student’ metric they should never turn a student away for their personal life, which we can agree to disagree on, but i’d be surprised if we do.

If there was growth? It seems quite clear that there was growth. It also seems quite clear that this was a political calculation on the part of Harvard. They simply didn't want someone "like him" on their campus. Funny that these schools don't seem to mind when activists on the left call visitors on their campus nigger and other such things if those people are conservatives........

[jimnyc]

I think this picture explains things better. They don't want no pro 2nd amendment character on their campus.




Social Justice Mania: Harvard Revokes Offer of Admission to Conservative Parkland Shooting Survivor Kyle Kashuv

Kyle Kashuv, the conservative high school student who survived the Parkland school shooting and who is a pro-gun activist, has had his admission offer to Harvard University’s Class of 2023 rescinded, after his racist and anti-Semitic remarks from two years ago became public last month.

Kashuv broke the news of Harvard’s decision to revoke his offer of admission on Monday in a Twitter thread where he lays out his conversations with Harvard’s Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid.

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/harvard...r-kyle-kashuv/

[Kathianne]

I think this picture explains things better. They don't want no pro 2nd amendment character on their campus.




Social Justice Mania: Harvard Revokes Offer of Admission to Conservative Parkland Shooting Survivor Kyle Kashuv

Kyle Kashuv, the conservative high school student who survived the Parkland school shooting and who is a pro-gun activist, has had his admission offer to Harvard University’s Class of 2023 rescinded, after his racist and anti-Semitic remarks from two years ago became public last month.

Kashuv broke the news of Harvard’s decision to revoke his offer of admission on Monday in a Twitter thread where he lays out his conversations with Harvard’s Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid.

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/harvard...r-kyle-kashuv/

Maybe. The coverage though of his second amendment stance was widely carried while he was completing high school.

[jimnyc]

Maybe. The coverage though of his second amendment stance was widely carried while he was completing high school.

And still mainly all that is discussed about him. It was spread like wildfire and as if it was crazy that he was "pro-gun" after the shootings.