Harvard Rescinds Admission To Conservative Kyle Kashuv

[jimnyc]

Meanwhile, liberals run so many of the colleges with their never ending demands. They get mini silent and crying rooms, quiet spaces. Places free of righties. They get violent without repercussions. Get to ban conservative speakers or events. Taught intolerance and liberal ideology. They give out white supremacy and white privilege classes & that's just a few. They get offended when someone else breathes.

[Kathianne]

A practice you agree with?

Honestly, I think it's by far best to have students go to the best university their grades and achievement will take them the furthest. So in most cases, affirmative action undermines the students it's meant to help.

https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publ...rmative-action

The idea though, to have a more diverse body beyond the abilities level though, is well intentioned and is worth finding a path. However, the old saying about 'the road to . . .' If it were up to me, the Ivies would be well served by helping to place potential upperclassmen in a better suited university, mentoring through the first two years to make up some academic deficiencies these students carry with from the schools they'd attended and find a way to open enrollment with same scholarship offers in 2nd or 3rd year.

This case though isn't that. This is a qualified student, with a minority in thinking mindset that also would be a diversifying student. Something the universities need also. A handful of students that are not of the same cut, are not going to change the school, though exposure to differing schools of thought is purportedly what their business is. The disagreements, respectfully exchanged enlightens all. Respect on all sides helps all.

[STTAB]

Honestly, I think it's by far best to have students go to the best university their grades and achievement will take them the furthest. So in most cases, affirmative action undermines the students it's meant to help.

https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publ...rmative-action

The idea though, to have a more diverse body beyond the abilities level though, is well intentioned and is worth finding a path. However, the old saying about 'the road to . . .' If it were up to me, the Ivies would be well served by helping to place potential upperclassmen in a better suited university, mentoring through the first two years to make up some academic deficiencies these students carry with from the schools they'd attended and find a way to open enrollment with same scholarship offers in 2nd or 3rd year.

This case though isn't that. This is a qualified student, with a minority in thinking mindset that also would be a diversifying student. Something the universities need also. A handful of students that are not of the same cut, are not going to change the school, though exposure to differing schools of thought is purportedly what their business is. The disagreements, respectfully exchanged enlightens all. Respect on all sides helps all.

And that , of course, hits the nail on the head. Leftists want diversity in everything, except thought. Just a quick example of that is Joe Biden caving on the Hyde Amendment he didn't do that because he changed his mind, he did that because the hive told him his present thought was unacceptable.

[Kathianne]

@Noir here's a school that has 'rethought' that whole 'protect against contrary thoughts.' It's really what an education is about:

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13387

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The University of Louisiana at Lafayette recently changed its campus free speech policy, preventing the school from regulating students who use speech protected by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.


It is not the school’s responsibility to “shield” people from “ideas and opinions they find unwelcome, disagreeable, or even deeply offensive,” according to the new policy, reported The Vermilion.

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I'm proud to have my university be the founder of this free speech code:

https://www.thefire.org/cases/fire-l...ech-statement/

FIRE Launches Campaign in Support of University of Chicago Free Speech Statement

Category: Free Speech
Schools: University of Chicago
During September 2015, FIRE launched a national campaign asking colleges and universities to adopt the free speech policy statement produced by the Committee on Freedom of Expression at the University of Chicago. The statement guarantees “all members of the University community the broadest possible latitude to speak, write, listen, challenge, and learn,” and makes clear that “it is not the proper role of the University to attempt to shield individuals from ideas and opinions they find unwelcome, disagreeable, or even deeply offensive.”
FIRE wrote hundreds of faculty members, students, and student journalists at institutions nationwide to build momentum in support of the Chicago statement.

Pledge Your Support for the Chicago Statement on Free Expression

[Elessar]

@Noir here's a school that has 'rethought' that whole 'protect against contrary thoughts.' It's really what an education is about:

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13387

I'm proud to have my university be the founder of this free speech code:

https://www.thefire.org/cases/fire-l...ech-statement/

This is a good and wise move. Perhaps other institutions will jump on board.

Yet I do not see U.C. Berkeley joining in - too far left.

[SassyLady]

Only an idiot wouldn't want their child to have a Harvard degree LOL they have their issues , but they are still Harvard.

Then I'm an idiot. I would rather my child attend a more balanced institution.

My granddaughter was accepted to Stanford and Berkeley. Then she got pregnant and had to give up that dream and stay home and go to University of Arizona. Our whole family was thankful because we were horrified she had applied to such liberal institutions. We were afraid we would lose her forever. Even at UofA she's being radicalized but thankfully there's some balance from family influences.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Then I'm an idiot. I would rather my child attend a more balanced institution.

My granddaughter was accepted to Stanford and Berkeley. Then she got pregnant and had to give up that dream and stay home and go to University of Arizona. Our whole family was thankful because we were horrified she had applied to such liberal institutions. We were afraid we would lose her forever. Even at UofA she's being radicalized but thankfully there's some balance from family influences.

Which was my point when I made my statement. I would not want my son to go to Harvard.
Character, morality and integrity trumps have their seal of approval, IMHO..
Harvard may not be as liberal as some others are, but still it is far too liberal for my tastes.
Then I guess you and I are both idiots then, huh? For placing values, integrity and character over that of financial gain by way of
what Ivy League university that one hails from.. At least I am in with fine company-then... --Tyr