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[Elessar]

Eh! I avoid calling out members that are not engaged in the original thread.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Eh! I avoid calling out members that are not engaged in the original thread.

And that is because you are both a nice guy and an honorable man. Some are just arrogant delusional pieces of shit that think anything they do is perfectly ok.
Hell, as the club's bouncer I made it a goal to be sure I was the one that escorted assholes like that out of the club--and each time prayed they'd give me just cause to beat the living hell out of them.
Some few did just that( to my ever loving delight!) but most are graven cowards that love to operate under protection of some kind, IMHO. -Tyr

[darin]

If the shoes or (fictional army boots) fit:

10 Signs of Emotional Childishness
How many of the following signs of emotional immaturity does your list include?

1. Emotional escalations: Young children often cry, get mad, or look petulant and pouting. Grownups seldom do.
2. Blaming: When things go wrong, young children look to blame someone. Grownups look to fix the problem.
3. Lies: When there's a situation that's uncomfortable, young children might lie to stay out of trouble. Grownups deal with reality, reliably speaking the truth.
4. Name-calling: Children call each other names. Adults seek to understand issues. Adults do not make ad hominen attacks, that is, attacks on people's personal traits. Instead, they attack the problem. They do not disrespect others with mean labels.
   
   There is one exception. Sometimes adults, like firefighters who battle forest fires, have to fight fire with fire. They may need to use "fire" to manage an angry child or an out-of-bounds adult, in order to get them to cease their bad behavior.
5. Impulsivity—or as therapists say, "poor impulse control": Children strike out impulsively when they feel hurt or mad. They speak recklessly or take impulsive action without pausing to think about the potential consequences. Similarly, instead of listening to others' viewpoints, they impulsively interrupt them. Adults pause, resisting the impulse to shoot out hurtful words or actions. They calm themselves. They then think through the problem, seeking more information and analyzing options.
   
   Again, some instances of acting on impulse can be hallmarks of mature behavior. Soldiers and police, for instance, are trained to discriminate rapidly between harmless and dangerous situations so that they can respond quickly enough to protect potential victims of criminal actions.
6. Need to be the center of attention: Ever tried to have adult dinner conversations with a two-year-old at the table? Did attempts to launch a discussion with others at the table result in the child getting fussy?
7. Bullying: A child who is physically larger than other children his age can walk up to another boy who is playing with a toy he would like and simply take it. The other child may say nothing lest the bully turn on them with hostility. In many cases, it's safer just to let a bully have what he wants. Adults, on the other hand, respect boundaries. Yours is yours and mine is mine.
8. Budding narcissism: In an earlier post, I coined the term tall man syndrome for one way that narcissism can develop. If children—or adults—can get whatever they want because they are bigger, stronger, or richer, they become at risk for learning that the rules don't apply to them. Whatever they want, they take. This narcissistic tendency may initially look like strength. But in reality, it reflects a serious weakness: being unable to see beyond the self.
   
   Psychologically strong people listen to others, hoping to understand others' feelings, concerns and preferences. Narcissists hear only themselves and are emotionally brittle as a result. They operate like children who want to stay out and play—even though dinner is on the table—and who pitch a fit rather than heed their parent's explanation that the family is eating now. Their mindset, in short, is "It's all about me." In the eyes of a narcissist, no one else counts; if they don't get their way, they may result to pouting or bullying in order to do so.
9. Immature defenses: Freud coined the term defense mechanisms for ways in which individuals protect themselves and/or get what they want. Adults use defense mechanisms like listening to others' concerns as well as to their own. They then engage in collaborative problem-solving. These responses to difficulties signal psychological maturity. Children tend to regard the best defense as a strong offense. While that defensive strategy may work in football, attacking anyone who expresses a viewpoint different from what they want is, in life, a primitive defense mechanism.
   
   Another primitive defenseisdenial—"I didn't say that!" or "I never did that!" when in fact they did say and do that. Sound childlike to you?
10. No observing ego—that is, no ability to see, acknowledge, and learn from their mistakes: When emotionally mature adults "lose their cool" and express anger inappropriately, they soon after, with their "observing ego," realize that their outburst was inappropriate. That is, they can see with hindsight that their behavior was out of line with their value system. They can see if their outburst has been, as therapists say, ego dystonic (against their value system).
    
    Children who have not yet internalized mature guidelines of respectful behavior toward others, or who have not developed ability to observe their behaviors to judge what's in line and what's out of line, see their anger as normal. They regard their emotional outbursts as "ego syntonic," justifying them by blaming the other person. In other words, "I only did it because you made me."

[Elessar]

There is one exception. Sometimes adults, like firefighters who battle forest fires, have to fight fire with fire. They may need to use "fire" to manage an angry child or an out-of-bounds adult, in order to get them to cease their bad behavior.
Impulsivity—or as therapists say, "poor impulse control": Children strike out impulsively when they feel hurt or mad. They speak recklessly or take impulsive action without pausing to think about the potential consequences. Similarly, instead of listening to others' viewpoints, they impulsively interrupt them. Adults pause, resisting the impulse to shoot out hurtful words or actions. They calm themselves. They then think through the problem, seeking more information and analyzing options.

Again, some instances of acting on impulse can be hallmarks of mature behavior. Soldiers and police, for instance, are trained to discriminate rapidly between harmless and dangerous situations so that they can respond quickly enough to protect potential victims of criminal

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Definitely accurate.

I learned a lot in Maritime Law Enforcement courses.

[STTAB]

Eh! I avoid calling out members that are not engaged in the original thread.

Questioning the two primary liberals on this board directly is hardly calling someone out. I wonder if Jimmy will come in and move all the unneccesary name calling, some from a fucking admin for God sakes, to the steel cage where it belongs.

[jimnyc]

I don't really see a problem here myself. There wasn't trash and personal stuff, and not much of a calling out, IMO. Looks like someone recognized what they saw as hypocrisy and asked for the take from 2 members, even if sarcastically. I don't see this as someone looking to start a fight or problem on the board. I'm gonna split things up, but not because rules were broken or anything like that, but just to keep the thread about the original subject.

[jimnyc]

And I'm not taking sides here or condemning anyone or anything like that - just simply keeping clean.

[STTAB]

And I'm not taking sides here or condemning anyone or anything like that - just simply keeping clean.

I just reread this bullshit and noticed that the dipshit Darin has once again alluded to me lying about my military service. Final straw, I'm out Jimmy.

You guys must enjoy your 5 posts a day from 4 posters b/c even an admin does his best to chase off anyone he doesn't like. Peace out.

[jimnyc]

I just reread this bullshit and noticed that the dipshit Darin has once again alluded to me lying about my military service. Final straw, I'm out Jimmy.

You guys must enjoy your 5 posts a day from 4 posters b/c even an admin does his best to chase off anyone he doesn't like. Peace out.

I know and believe you, and I'm sure others do too. I'm sure some hate me and some may enjoy me. Can't please everyone, so don't try!

I hope you will rethink that decision and not allow anyone to push you away over mere words as it's not worth ruining a good time here.

[jimnyc]

And to the rest, he may be right about dwindling posts or threads. Not liking folks is no reason to continually peck. That's what the ignore feature is for. Instead, members bail, and then folks themselves don't post much since no others are posting.

[STTAB]

Jimmy , as you well know I don't care if people like me. Most don't lol but when it's an admin of the board calling you a liar about something that any reasonable person would take offense at being called a liar about it's worse than when a regular member does it, even if he was just posting as a regular member. Couple that with just the sheer hypocrisy involved with him raging at me when I give someone a hard time and well, that's not fun for me.

[jimnyc]

Jimmy , as you well know I don't care if people like me. Most don't lol but when it's an admin of the board calling you a liar about something that any reasonable person would take offense at being called a liar about it's worse than when a regular member does it, even if he was just posting as a regular member. Couple that with just the sheer hypocrisy involved with him raging at me when I give someone a hard time and well, that's not fun for me.

Without moderator duties involved, staff also post as regular members, and our posts have no more weight than others. I can assure you from years of experience that even owning the place doesn't automatically give you respect. Folks are not immune from condemning me and posting shit. And members don't simply support or defend staff members just because they are staff.

[STTAB]

Without moderator duties involved, staff also post as regular members, and our posts have no more weight than others. I can assure you from years of experience that even owning the place doesn't automatically give you respect. Folks are not immune from condemning me and posting shit. And members don't simply support or defend staff members just because they are staff.

Oh I fully realize that , obviously.

But the guy is just damn near stalking my posts looking for a reason to be critical of me. The post this was cut out of was completely appropriate to the board and was offensive to no one, but along comes an admin to change that. Which hey I'm all about the troll, but don't do it and then criticize me when I do it.

I've tried to be civil with Darin, the effort is never returned and so I'm out. Or at a minimum I'll simply post less, which I realize is giving him what he wants, making that another act by me to be civil to him LOL

[High_Plains_Drifter]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack...ity_litigation

Wiki... that's your rebuttal? You're dumber than the fucking heifers you claim you have on your farm.

Go fuck yourself.

[Elessar]

Not a Mod, but I think that is enough!