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Oh , I disagree. I think Trump does stuff like that KNOWING that the left will explode in righteous anger.Originally Posted by Elessar
As for the census , you are wrong . It is against federal law to not answer questions on a census or to lie.
https://people.howstuffworks.com/question345.htm
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Those DOJ attorneys that were all leaving? Judge says, "No, you can't." Interesting.
https://hotair.com/archives/allahpun...ship-question/
“Patently Deficient”: Federal Judge Blocks DOJ Lawyers From Withdrawing From Case Involving Census Citizenship QuestionALLAHPUNDITPosted at 8:41 pm on July 9, 2019
How much of a mess has the White House made of this census dispute? So much that the Justice Department lawyers who’ve been handling the case for months are now trying to walk away from it en masse…
…and the courts won’t let them. It’s a federal judge who’s insisting for the moment that Trump’s A-team at the DOJ remain on the job, arguing his side.
At least until they give him a good reason why they shouldn’t. Can they? From today’s order denying the lawyers’ motion to withdraw:
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If they objected to continuing on with the case due to ethical reasons, it makes sense that they wouldn’t want to state that in their motion to withdraw and risk embarrassing Trump and the department. But the federal judge who issued today’s order has called their bluff. Either they have to get back to work or they have to openly admit their ethical misgivings about what they’re being asked to do, which will be an unholy PR clusterfark for the White House and the DOJ. What are they going to do?
To give you a sense of just how messy this has gotten, read this story about the many times federal officials have contradicted their own stated reasoning for wanting to add the citizenship question to the census. Remember, it’s supposed to be about the Voting Rights Act, but figures like Ken Cuccinelli have admitted at times that the information might be used in immigration enforcement. And Trump himself admitted just a few days ago that it might be used for redistricting, perhaps to try to exclude illegals from the count in apportioning House districts. My takeaway from John Roberts’s opinion in the SCOTUS ruling was that he was straining for ways to give Trump the green light to do this but, as a matter of basic judicial integrity, couldn’t allow the administration to lie baldfaced to the Court about what its motives were. Now you have the president all but confessing that the Voting Rights Act rationale wasn’t the real reason for asking about citizenship on the census. If this case comes back to SCOTUS, Roberts may feel obliged to rule against Trump purely because it would embarrass the Court at this point to reward the administration with a win after lying so brazenly.
Trump may “win” anyway, though, if not in court than by making enough of a fuss about this that some illegals will refuse to answer the census questionnaire, leading to an undercount of the population in blue districts with large illegal populations. He might still win in court too, with POTUS reportedly considering an executive order to include the question on the census and begin printing. Again, though, that would operate as a sort of middle finger to SCOTUS, ignoring Roberts’s demand for a clearer rationale for including the question and ordering the government to proceed with it anyway on Trump’s say-so. If SCOTUS tries to stop him, then we’re in constitutional crisis territory. But first, we wait to see what the DOJ will do about today’s “get back to work” order.
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the federal judge who issued today’s order has called their bluff. Either they have to get back to work or they have to openly admit their ethical misgivings about what they’re being asked to do...
Outstanding move, and Fairplay on Roberts.
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I sure would like to know how a federal judge can tell the government who may or may not represent their case in court. I know you disagree, but these courts need to be smacked down, they are over reaching.
Super Minion
They have to explain why, he did allow 2 to go.
11 attorneys leaving at once-at the end of an appeal-smacks of a big problem. The judge is saying, tell us the problem.
https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/r...-mid-case.html
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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The problem seems obvious, These lawyers are half assing it because they are putting their political ideology above their client, who is in this case the USG.
Super Minion
Which seems to be why the judge has said, "No."
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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No, you are simply in favor of dictatorship. Anything Trump wants.
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Get over yourself, Trump is the worst dictator in the history of the world, if he's trying to be a dictator.
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I refused to answer the 2010 census ... any of it. They threatened and blustered.....I said 1 permanent resident and 3 boarders. Gave no names, no gender, no age, no occupation info.
If the freedom of speech is taken away
then dumb and silent we may be led,
like sheep to the slaughter.
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