Nuclear Deal Parties Not Ready To Launch Dispute Mechanism Against Iran, Prefer More

[Gunny]

Not much on CNN, but it was well covered:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...a-close-friend



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-f...the-right-way/

Not surprising I missed that since it's from CNN. I'd as soon be friends with that gator in Chicago when it was hungry,

I have issue with some of Trump's foreign policy. Not all of it but I was not okay with eating shit from Erdogan over the kurds in Syria. Sorry, that's not my kind of "friend". If Erdogan's self-serving ass is playing buddies with Trump rest assured there is something in it for Erdogan/Turkey. Because meanwhile, back at the ranch, Erdogan is kissing up to Putin for a nuclear power plant.

We can most afford to dump the place and should. Russia can't since it borders Russia and the Black Sea.

[Kathianne]

Not surprising I missed that since it's from CNN. I'd as soon be friends with that gator in Chicago when it was hungry,

I have issue with some of Trump's foreign policy. Not all of it but I was not okay with eating shit from Erdogan over the kurds in Syria. Sorry, that's not my kind of "friend". If Erdogan's self-serving ass is playing buddies with Trump rest assured there is something in it for Erdogan/Turkey. Because meanwhile, back at the ranch, Erdogan is kissing up to Putin for a nuclear power plant.

We can most afford to dump the place and should. Russia can't since it borders Russia and the Black Sea.

It was not CNN, that was STAAB thinking he was cute.

[Gunny]

It was not CNN, that was STAAB thinking he was cute.

Point is, I missed it. I'd have probably been hootin' n- hollerin' about it if I'd caught it. I'm not a politician and I doubt I could play two-faced long with a Turk. I guess I couldn't expect anything other than Trump being diplomatic while being handed some $. Not sure I'd go with the fist bump about it

I wouldn't trust myself to get my fist that close to Erdogan's face and not connect. I think I'd forego claiming it was a slip ... I most certainly wouldn't forget renaming the street in front of the US Embassy in Turkey after a victory of Turkey's army over a bunch of farmers in Northern Syria. Like I haven't.

Trump's foreign policy is just twilight zone material to me. I don't mean that in a good or bad way. Just means I don't get. He makes no sense from a military/geopolitical view.

[Kathianne]

Point is, I missed it. I'd have probably been hootin' n- hollerin' about it if I'd caught it. I'm not a politician and I doubt I could play two-faced long with a Turk. I guess I couldn't expect anything other than Trump being diplomatic while being handed some $. Not sure I'd go with the fist bump about it

I wouldn't trust myself to get my fist that close to Erdogan's face and not connect. I think I'd forego claiming it was a slip ... I most certainly wouldn't forget renaming the street in front of the US Embassy in Turkey after a victory of Turkey's army over a bunch of farmers in Northern Syria. Like I haven't.

Trump's foreign policy is just twilight zone material to me. I don't mean that in a good or bad way. Just means I don't get. He makes no sense from a military/geopolitical view.

I would say that most of what Trump says, does, and writes leaves me the same.

[Gunny]

I would say that most of what Trump says, does, and writes leaves me the same.

I try to look at him a bit more objectively than that

[Kathianne]

I try to look at him a bit more objectively than that

I could argue that I'm the objective one here.

[STTAB]

Point is, I missed it. I'd have probably been hootin' n- hollerin' about it if I'd caught it. I'm not a politician and I doubt I could play two-faced long with a Turk. I guess I couldn't expect anything other than Trump being diplomatic while being handed some $. Not sure I'd go with the fist bump about it

I wouldn't trust myself to get my fist that close to Erdogan's face and not connect. I think I'd forego claiming it was a slip ... I most certainly wouldn't forget renaming the street in front of the US Embassy in Turkey after a victory of Turkey's army over a bunch of farmers in Northern Syria. Like I haven't.

Trump's foreign policy is just twilight zone material to me. I don't mean that in a good or bad way. Just means I don't get. He makes no sense from a military/geopolitical view.

I'll say one thing, Trump is in a bind when it comes to the geopolitical/military aspect of things. Being a complete civilian outsider he doesn't really know the ins and outs of what he's dealing with and then on top of that he's got people advising him who have neither his best interest nor the best interest of the US as their top priorities. That asshole John Bolton would have us fighting a war in every country on Earth if he could, and sadly most of Washington DC agrees with him.

I think Trump himself has moved toward the hawk since becoming President.

[STTAB]

It was not CNN, that was STAAB thinking he was cute.

STTAB doesn't think he's cute, STTAB actually IS cute.

[Kathianne]

@Gunny a bit of good news, though you can see that the President seems to like Erdogan:

https://www.defensenews.com/congress...ns-are-coming/

Lawmakers say Trump is locked into Turkey sanctions 20 hours ago



By: Joe Gouldand Aaron Mehta


Updated 4:51 PM with fuller quotes from Trump and Esper

WASHINGTON ― After days of silence about whether Turkey will be punished for accepting a Russian-made air defense system, U.S. President Donald Trump reluctantly seemed to agree Turkey will now be cut off from the F-35.


Though Washington has repeatedly warned that the Russian system, the S-400, is incompatible with NATO systems and is a threat to the F-35, Trump expressed sympathy toward Turkey’s decision. Trump portrayed the Obama administration as refusing to sell Turkey an American alternative, the Patriot missile defense system, until after the S-400 purchase was complete.


“So what happens is we have a situation where Turkey is very good with us, very good, and we are now telling Turkey that because you have really been forced to buy another missile system, we’re not going to sell you the F-35 fighter jets," Trump said. "It’s a very tough situation that they’re in, and it’s a very tough situation that we’ve been placed in, the United States.”


“With all of that being said, we’re working through it, but it’s not really fair,” Trump added. “Because they bought a Russian system, we’re not allowed to sell them billions of aircraft. It’s not a fair situation.”


The administration’s delayed response has fueled speculation Trump was looking to avoid a fight with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, whom he has sympathized with in the past. And notably, the president did not say whether he would impose sanctions on Turkey under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act, or CAATSA.

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[Gunny]

Don't know why Trump likes Erdogan. This decision will just Push Turkey closer to Russia who probably will sell them comparable Russian fighters. Erdogan has to show us and World the US doesn't mean sh*t, while Putin will see an opportunity to get another toe in the door of a country he probably covets in his wildest dreams. Turkey aligning with Russia theoretically gives Putin a land bridge to Iran, the Arabian Gulf and Indian Ocean. He's already got one to the Baltic. Not to mention Iran's oil.

[STTAB]

Don't know why Trump likes Erdogan. This decision will just Push Turkey closer to Russia who probably will sell them comparable Russian fighters. Erdogan has to show us and World the US doesn't mean sh*t, while Putin will see an opportunity to get another toe in the door of a country he probably covets in his wildest dreams. Turkey aligning with Russia theoretically gives Putin a land bridge to Iran, the Arabian Gulf and Indian Ocean. He's already got one to the Baltic. Not to mention Iran's oil.

Russia has not fighters that are comparable to the F35, let's keep that straight.