Legal vs. Illegal

[jimnyc]

Got in an email. Obviously doesn't apply to every single illegal, but makes a great point nonetheless.

• Joe Legal works in construction has a Social Security number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
• Joe illegal also works in construction has no Social Security number and makes $15.00 per hour cash, under the table.

Ready?... now pay attention...

• Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour × 40 hours = $1,000.00 per week or $52,000.00 per year. Now, take 31% away for State and Federal taxes. Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
• Joe illegal: $15.00 an hour × 40 hours = $600.00 per week or $31,200.00 per year. Joe illegal pays no taxes. Joe illegal now has $31,200.00.

• Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
• Joe illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the State and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Joe illegal still has $31,200.00.

• Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe legal spends $500.00 per month for food or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
• Joe illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC, and welfare. Joe illegal still has $31,200.00.

• Joe Legal pays rent of 1,200.00 per month or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.
• Joe illegal receives $500.00 per month Federal rent subsidy. Joe illegal pays out that $500.00 per month or $6,000.00 per year. Joe illegal still has $31,200.00.

• Joe legal pays $200.00 per month or $2,400.00 per year for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
• Joe illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance."... and still has $31,000.00.

• Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.
• Joe illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.

• Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part-time job after work.
• Joe illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

• Joe Legal's and Joe illegal's children both attend the same elementary school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while...
• ...Joe illegal's children get a government-sponsored lunch.

• Joe illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
• Joe Legal's children go home.

Now, when they reach college age...

• Joe Legal's kids may not get into a State school and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State schools through his taxes, while...
• ...Joe illegal's kids go to the, 'head of the class' because they are a minority.

Joe Legal and Joe illegal both benefit from the same police and fire services, but Joe Legal paid for them and Joe illegal did not.

[Gunny]

Got in an email. Obviously doesn't apply to every single illegal, but makes a great point nonetheless.

• Joe Legal works in construction has a Social Security number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
• Joe illegal also works in construction has no Social Security number and makes $15.00 per hour cash, under the table.

Ready?... now pay attention...

• Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour × 40 hours = $1,000.00 per week or $52,000.00 per year. Now, take 31% away for State and Federal taxes. Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
• Joe illegal: $15.00 an hour × 40 hours = $600.00 per week or $31,200.00 per year. Joe illegal pays no taxes. Joe illegal now has $31,200.00.

• Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
• Joe illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the State and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Joe illegal still has $31,200.00.

• Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe legal spends $500.00 per month for food or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
• Joe illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC, and welfare. Joe illegal still has $31,200.00.

• Joe Legal pays rent of 1,200.00 per month or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.
• Joe illegal receives $500.00 per month Federal rent subsidy. Joe illegal pays out that $500.00 per month or $6,000.00 per year. Joe illegal still has $31,200.00.

• Joe legal pays $200.00 per month or $2,400.00 per year for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
• Joe illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance."... and still has $31,000.00.

• Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.
• Joe illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.

• Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part-time job after work.
• Joe illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

• Joe Legal's and Joe illegal's children both attend the same elementary school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while...
• ...Joe illegal's children get a government-sponsored lunch.

• Joe illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
• Joe Legal's children go home.

Now, when they reach college age...

• Joe Legal's kids may not get into a State school and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State schools through his taxes, while...
• ...Joe illegal's kids go to the, 'head of the class' because they are a minority.

Joe Legal and Joe illegal both benefit from the same police and fire services, but Joe Legal paid for them and Joe illegal did not.

I've made this same argument for years. I got to watch it live and in person for years here in S Texas. It's a way of life

There's nobody to convince, Jimbob. Those of us at ground zero need no convincing while those not affected by it at all have some idealistic (und unrealistic) crap stuck in their heads, or they are the ones making money from it, know it, and love the latter group for not allowing the law to interfere in their illegal businesses.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Got in an email. Obviously doesn't apply to every single illegal, but makes a great point nonetheless.

• Joe Legal works in construction has a Social Security number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
• Joe illegal also works in construction has no Social Security number and makes $15.00 per hour cash, under the table.

Ready?... now pay attention...

• Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour × 40 hours = $1,000.00 per week or $52,000.00 per year. Now, take 31% away for State and Federal taxes. Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
• Joe illegal: $15.00 an hour × 40 hours = $600.00 per week or $31,200.00 per year. Joe illegal pays no taxes. Joe illegal now has $31,200.00.

• Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
• Joe illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the State and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Joe illegal still has $31,200.00.

• Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe legal spends $500.00 per month for food or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
• Joe illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC, and welfare. Joe illegal still has $31,200.00.

• Joe Legal pays rent of 1,200.00 per month or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.
• Joe illegal receives $500.00 per month Federal rent subsidy. Joe illegal pays out that $500.00 per month or $6,000.00 per year. Joe illegal still has $31,200.00.

• Joe legal pays $200.00 per month or $2,400.00 per year for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
• Joe illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance."... and still has $31,000.00.

• Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.
• Joe illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.

• Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part-time job after work.
• Joe illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

• Joe Legal's and Joe illegal's children both attend the same elementary school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while...
• ...Joe illegal's children get a government-sponsored lunch.

• Joe illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
• Joe Legal's children go home.

Now, when they reach college age...

• Joe Legal's kids may not get into a State school and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State schools through his taxes, while...
• ...Joe illegal's kids go to the, 'head of the class' because they are a minority.

Joe Legal and Joe illegal both benefit from the same police and fire services, but Joe Legal paid for them and Joe illegal did not.

All brought about by the socialist/communist loving dem party.
Thank those traitorous ffing worthless politicians and their ffing ignorant freebie loving voters..
Traitors the entire Party.- A damn solid gold fact.
And I have calling out that truth, that sad reality for over 40 years now..... -Tyr

[STTAB]

All brought about by the socialist/communist loving dem party.
Thank those traitorous ffing worthless politicians and their ffing ignorant freebie loving voters..
Traitors the entire Party.- A damn solid gold fact.
And I have calling out that truth, that sad reality for over 40 years now..... -Tyr

I just have to LOL @ people like this who don't think the GOP is just as guilty as the DNC in this crap.

Which party was in total control for two years and did NOTHING to build a wall or otherwise add enforcement teeth? Oh that's right.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I just have to LOL @ people like this who don't think the GOP is just as guilty as the DNC in this crap.

Which party was in total control for two years and did NOTHING to build a wall or otherwise add enforcement teeth? Oh that's right.

Equality of guilt (?)-- my, my what a weak excuse to try to cover for liberal democrats and your own hidden simpleton ways..
Such lack of depth, knowledge and wisdom does not surprise me at all, given your history of ignorance, low morals, pitifully inept arrogance
and utterly massive infantile stupidity.

Better to be silent and thought to be a fool, than to speak and thus remove all doubt.
Advice you obviously never ever heard or else rejected because of your own highly aggrandized and self-loving ego...

Now that a moron like you made the first unprovoked stab, do tell of your brilliance , wealth , glory et all- you know your usual lies..
Not that such is interesting but in sad way it is somewhat entertaining to see such a fool you, bray like a total jackass.. -Tyr

[STTAB]

Equality of guilt (?)-- my, my what a weak excuse to try to cover for liberal democrats and your own hidden simpleton ways..
Such lack of depth, knowledge and wisdom does not surprise me at all, given your history of ignorance, low morals, pitifully inept arrogance
and utterly massive infantile stupidity.

Better to be silent and thought to be a fool, than to speak and thus remove all doubt.
Advice you obviously never ever heard or else rejected because of your own highly aggrandized and self-loving ego...

Now that a moron like you made the first unprovoked stab, do tell of your brilliance , wealth , glory et all- you know your usual lies..
Not that such is interesting but in sad way it is somewhat entertaining to see such a fool you, bray like a total jackass.. -Tyr

ATTENTION ALL ADMINS AND MODS PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF WHO GOT PERSONAL WITH WHOM FIRST IN THIS THREAD, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR A FUCKING WORD ABOUT IT. I made a substantive on point post and this moron attacked because he's a moron possibly of inbred beginnings.

Listen here Tyr, saying the GOP Is just as guilty (because they are) doesn't mean the DNC is not guilty and your idiotic attempts to label me as a liberal because you disagree with facts is just dumb.

You should stick to poetry and leave the thinking to people who can you know think.