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    Default Who Would Have Thought? Rs and Ds Don't Know Each Other

    Higher Ed doesn't help either:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...al-survey-poll


    Think Republicans are disconnected from reality? It's even worse among liberals
    Arlie Hochschild


    A new survey found Democrats live with less political diversity despite being more tolerant of it – with startling results

    In a surprising new national survey, members of each major American political party were asked what they imagined to be the beliefs held by members of the other. The survey asked Democrats: “How many Republicans believe that racism is still a problem in America today?” Democrats guessed 50%. It’s actually 79%. The survey asked Republicans how many Democrats believe “most police are bad people”. Republicans estimated half; it’s really 15%.


    The survey, published by the thinktank More in Common as part of its Hidden Tribes of America project, was based on a sample of more than 2,000 people. One of the study’s findings: the wilder a person’s guess as to what the other party is thinking, the more likely they are to also personally disparage members of the opposite party as mean, selfish or bad. Not only do the two parties diverge on a great many issues, they also disagree on what they disagree on.

    This much we might guess. But what’s startling is the further finding that higher education does not improve a person’s perceptions – and sometimes even hurts it. In their survey answers, highly-educated Republicans were no more accurate in their ideas about Democratic opinion than poorly educated Republicans. For Democrats, the education effect was even worse: the more educated a Democrat is, according to the study, the less he or she understands the Republican worldview.


    “This effect,” the report says, “is so strong that Democrats without a high school diploma are three times more accurate than those with a postgraduate degree.” And the more politically engaged a person is, the greater the distortion.

    What could be going on? Bubble-ism, the report suggests. Even more than their Republican counterparts, highly educated Democrats tend to live in exclusively Democratic enclaves. The more they report “almost all my friends hold the same political views”, the worse their guesses on what Republicans think.


    So do they believe in sticking with their own? No. When asked in a Pew survey whether it’s important to live in a place “where most people share my political views”, half of conservatives and only a third of liberals agreed. Although in principle more tolerant of political diversity, highly educated – and mostly urban – Democrats live, ironically, with less of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    What is going on is social media and the news media. Both glorify the extreme left and villify the extreme right constantly leading everyone to believe they are much bigger than they are .

    And that has led most of the people in charge , especially Democrats, to be cowards and instead of standing up to these people they cave and take up positions they don't even believe in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    What is going on is social media and the news media. Both glorify the extreme left and villify the extreme right constantly leading everyone to believe they are much bigger than they are .

    And that has led most of the people in charge , especially Democrats, to be cowards and instead of standing up to these people they cave and take up positions they don't even believe in.

    Hmm, this is about liberals being more out of touch than the right, so not sure why you are using this thread for your point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Hmm, this is about liberals being more out of touch than the right, so not sure why you are using this thread for your point.
    My point is that the crazies on BOTH sides use social media in a way that makes it look like they are bigger constituency than they really are. Liberals in general think social media is representative of real life, I forget the name of the study but it was just a couple of months ago ,it showed that Democrats more than Republicans believed that for example Twitter represented the views of average America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    My point is that the crazies on BOTH sides use social media in a way that makes it look like they are bigger constituency than they really are. Liberals in general think social media is representative of real life, I forget the name of the study but it was just a couple of months ago ,it showed that Democrats more than Republicans believed that for example Twitter represented the views of average America.
    So start a thread about that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    So start a thread about that.
    Why would I do that? You're awful cranky this morning

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