No one else finds it strange that the White House had plans to honor the Taliban at Camp David? 3 days before the 17 years after 9/11?
Super Minion
No one else finds it strange that the White House had plans to honor the Taliban at Camp David? 3 days before the 17 years after 9/11?
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
GOD Bless America...
"Honor" ???....your watching to much CNN......Your comment is strange...Originally Posted by Kathianne
Super Minion
Hardly. Camp David invitation is an honor for respected guests of our President. To be offered such is a sign of respect. To offer such to the Taliban? They alloy, encouraged the plotting of bin laden. They are still plotting bringing the US to subjugation. Like the killing of the innocents, they admit it."Honor" ???....your watching to much CNN......Your comment is strange...
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Senior Member
This is typically how the Left operates.
"Honor" ???....your watching to much CNN......Your comment is strange...
They accuse Trump of not being qualified for anything. So, when he tries...they accuse him again of Bowing Down to the enemy.
When the meeting is canceled...they do the opposite...same thing in reverse. Still say he had no right to plan such a meeting....Secretly....as if he wanted to Hide it from WE THE PEOPLE.
It's called "BEING STUCK BETWEEN A ROCK, AND A HARD PLACE" or "DAMNED IF YOU DO, DAMNED IF YOU DON'T"
A better word for all of the arranged HATRED for the President is...."HYPOCRISY".
I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me:
Super Minion
So you are happy with an invitation to Camp David to those who’s worn to conquer this country.
I guess that’s the new definition of heroes?
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Super Minion
To be clear, I don't have a problem with the US trying to negotiate a peace with our enemies. I do have a problem with treating sworn enemies as honored guests, which an invitation to Camp David infers.
This President hasn't a problem in treating allies with less honors than this.
Pretty much the Afghan government is much like the Czech President at the Munich Pact. So now the US is Chamberlain?
IF not for the Taliban boasting about killing the marine and 11 others, this would have happened. The mistake wasn't in killing this time or for the past few months, it was boasting to the news reporters about their reasoning, of 'gaining strength' for the negotiations. Without a doubt, the Taliban would have gained the title of The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
If they'd just 'stfu' it would have been a deal.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Super Minion
Know your history or repeat. Oh hell, when bound & determined we'll repeat just for the hell of it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islami...of_Afghanistan
Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan
1996–2001
"There is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God."
Kabul (official)
Kandahar (de facto)[1]
Common languages
Pashto (official)[2]
Dari and other languages of Afghanistan
Religion Sunni Islam
Government Unitary Islamic theocracy under a totalitarian dictatorship
Amir al-Mu'minin (Leader of the Faithful)[3][4][5]
Head of the Supreme Council[6][7][8]
• 1996–2001
Mohammed Omar
Prime Minister
• 1996–2001
Mohammad Rabbani
• 2001
Abdul Kabir (acting)
Legislature Jirga
Historical era Afghan Civil War / War on Terror
• Rise to Power
27 September[9] 1996
• Battle of Tora Bora (2001)
17 December 2001
Area
2000 587,578 km2 (226,865 sq mi)
Population
• 2001
26,813,057
Currency Afghani
Calling code +93
ISO 3166 code AF
Preceded by Succeeded by
Islamic State of Afghanistan
Islamic State of Afghanistan
The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan[10] (Pashto: د افغانستان اسلامي امارات, Da Afghanistan Islami Amarat) was a totalitarian[11][12][13] Islamic state established in September 1996 when the Taliban began their rule of Afghanistan after the fall of Kabul. At its peak, the Taliban established control over approximately 90% of the country, whereas remaining parts of the country in the northeast were held by the Northern Alliance, who maintained broad international recognition as a continuation of the Islamic State of Afghanistan.[14] After 9/11, international opposition to the regime drastically increased, with diplomatic recognition from the United Arab Emirates, and Pakistan being rescinded. The Islamic Emirate ceased to exist on December 17, 2001, after being overthrown by the Northern Alliance, which had been bolstered by a US-led invasion of the country.
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"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Super Minion
Ho Hum... We don't care!
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1VT05L
WORLD NEWSSEPTEMBER 8, 2019 / 12:02 AM / UPDATED 27 MINUTES AGO
More Americans will die after Trump abruptly ends Afghan talks, Taliban say
Abdul Qadir Sediqi, Doina Chiacu
KABUL/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s decision to cancel Afghan peace talks will cost more American lives, the Taliban said on Sunday while the United States promised to keep up military pressure on the militants, in a stunning reversal of efforts to forge a deal ending nearly 20 years of war in Afghanistan.
The Islamist group issued a statement hours after Trump unexpectedly canceled planned secret talks with the Taliban’s “major leaders” at the presidential compound in Camp David, Maryland. He broke off the talks after the Taliban claimed responsibility for an attack in Kabul last week that killed an American soldier and 11 others.
Zabihullah Mujahid, a Taliban spokesman, criticized Trump for calling off the dialogue and said U.S. forces have been pounding Afghanistan with attacks at the same time.
“This will lead to more losses to the U.S.,” he said in a statement. “Its credibility will be affected, its anti-peace stance will be exposed to the world, losses to lives and assets will increase.”
Elections in Afghanistan becoming more necessary by the hour, says EU special envoy
In Washington, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that Afghan peace talks were on hold and Washington would not withdraw troops from the region until it was convinced the Taliban could follow through on any significant commitments.
The United States has recalled U.S. special envoy for Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad to chart the path forward, Pompeo said in appearances on Sunday TV news shows. Asked on “Fox News Sunday” whether Afghan talks were dead, Pompeo said, “For the time being they are.”
Trump has long wanted to end U.S. involvement in Afghanistan - since his days as a candidate - and American diplomats have been talking with Taliban representatives for months about a plan to withdraw thousands of American troops in exchange for security guarantees by the Taliban.
U.S. and Taliban negotiators struck a draft peace deal last week that could have led to a drawdown of troops from America’s longest war. There are currently 14,000 U.S. forces as well as thousands of other NATO troops in the country, 18 years after its invasion by a U.S.-led coalition following the Sept. 11, 2001, al Qaeda attacks on the United States.
Fighting in Afghanistan has continued amid the talks and recent assaults by the Taliban cast doubts over the draft deal.
CAMP DAVID SURPRISE
Asked about the Camp David meeting scheduled for Sunday, Pompeo said Trump decided to get personally involved to get the agreement to the finish line.
“President Trump ultimately made the decision,” Pompeo told Fox. “He said, ‘I want to talk to (President) Ashraf Ghani. I want to talk to these Taliban negotiators. I want to look them in the eye. I want to see if we can get to the final outcome we needed.’”
Trump was criticized, even by some fellow Republicans, for having offered to host on U.S. soil a militant group that has killed American troops and had sheltered al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
Republican U.S. Representatives Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney said the Taliban were still fighting Americans and harboring its enemies.
“Camp David is where America’s leaders met to plan our response after al Qaeda, supported by the Taliban, killed 3000 Americans on 9/11,” Cheney, whose father, Dick Cheney, was U.S. vice president at the time of the attacks, wrote on Twitter on Sunday. “No member of the Taliban should set foot there. Ever.”
Americans will on Wednesday mark the 18th anniversary of the al Qaeda attacks that killed more than 3,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.
Never forget.
Taliban fighters, who now control more territory than at any time since 2001, launched assaults over the past week that included a suicide attack in Kabul on Thursday that killed U.S. Army Sergeant 1st Class Elis A. Barreto Ortiz, 34, from Puerto Rico, bringing the number of American troops killed in Afghanistan this year to 16.
Pompeo said the United States will not let up on military support for Afghan troops until the Taliban take the necessary steps to show they are serious about peace.
Earlier this month, senior security officials in Kabul said joint air raids by U.S. and Afghan forces against the Taliban have not subsided. Pompeo said more than 1,000 Taliban fighters have been killed in Afghanistan in the last 10 days.
“If the Taliban don’t behave, if they don’t deliver on the commitments that they’ve made to us now for weeks, and in some cases months, the president is not going to reduce the pressure, we’re not going to reduce our support for the Afghan security forces that have fought so hard there in Afghanistan,” Pompeo said in an interview with CNN’s “State of the Union.”
“We’re not just going to withdraw because there’s a timeline,” he said.
Reporting by Abdul Qadir Sediqi and Hamid Shalizi in Kabul, Doina Chiacu, Valerie Volcovici and Steve Holland in Washington; Editing by Mary Milliken and Howard Goller
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Senior Member
Okay Kathianne. Camp David IS NOT A HOLY PLACE.
Tell me where I said I was happy. Then...tell us all. What did you have to say, or think about President Reagan inviting Russian Premier Gorbachev....during the Long....COLD WAR?
Or, how about this? "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."
This has often been attributed to Sun Tzu and sometimes to Petrarch. It comes most directly from a line spoken by Michael Corleone in The Godfather Part II (1974), written by Mario Puzo and Francis Ford Coppola: My father taught me many things here.
(Some trust it was Sun-tzu, a Chinese general and military strategist, however his citation was different. He said, " Know your enemy and know yourself and you will always be victorious.")
I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me:
Super Minion
Honestly? You don't see a difference between Gorbachev and the Taliban? I am familiar with the Godfather movies. I do think there's more than a bit of truth in the saying.
That's not what we're talking about though. http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...797#post942797
My point in the beginning was about honest dealings-not leaving Afghanistan to revert to 9/10/01. Since last night, it's about honor, not giving it to those unworthy. The Taliban are not worthy.
Your point and that of your antisemitic friend seem to be Trump. If he's for it, the tingle just won't let go. It's ok now, for this minute he's not for it.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Senior Member
Of course. As usual. You are 100% Correct Kathianne.
I should have remembered what I said last week, here on DP. Be sure to attend every Democrat Rally out there. Seems like you could teach them much more than they know.
My Mistake.
I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me:
GOD Bless America...
Thats how it is...agree...American people know and understand this already....Ignore the Leftists and "wish Hillary would of won" Trump haters...it is what it is...They will always be yelling at the sky....and remain full of shit...
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