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    First and foremost, make the fuck sure that everyone is discussing the same thing. It seems as though those wanting to ban certain firearms don't know the damn difference between automatic and semi-automatic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    How many have there been so far this year?

    That depends on how you define a "mass shooting".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Do what?
    Do nothing!
    The system is perfect as it is.

    If you're going to step in and attempt to discuss something you know nothing about, at least try to grow the hell up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    If you’re having mass shootings as regularly as America is, I think that’s a ‘way to tell’.

    How easily you (in another nation) can speak of so-called Mass Shootings in America....But, you easily, and intentionally forget to mention all of the KILLING that takes place, all over Europe, and on the streets of major cities like Paris.
    I guess the WAY human beings are killed....does not qualify to your way of thinking? Bombings, Stabbings, Trucks targeting people on the streets, and bridges.
    Noir. You show your hypocrisy in all of this by TELLING US TO CLEAN OUR BACKYARD....WHILE YOUR'S IS WORSE LOOKING???


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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    How easily you (in another nation) can speak of so-called Mass Shootings in America....But, you easily, and intentionally forget to mention all of the KILLING that takes place, all over Europe, and on the streets of major cities like Paris.
    I guess the WAY human beings are killed....does not qualify to your way of thinking? Bombings, Stabbings, Trucks targeting people on the streets, and bridges.
    Noir. You show your hypocrisy in all of this by TELLING US TO CLEAN OUR BACKYARD....WHILE YOUR'S IS WORSE LOOKING???


    Yes - well said.

    The media, over here, has a lot to answer for when it comes to priming people like Noir. There's pretty much universal agreement among all those reporting on the whole so-called American 'gun culture' that America's fondness for guns, and lack of control in making them available (compared with us, anyway) makes our culture a 'superior' one. People just can't understand the freedom to own guns, and every single time another 'mass shooting' gets reported, there's yet further proof, in THEIR eyes, of how wrong, even 'backward', it is to have a society permitting their ownership.

    But ... AS YOU SAY ... we've absolutely no cause for smugness, just because we have those controls. People pull triggers .. they don't pull themselves. Every murder that happens is the fault of the murderer, not the weapon used. We have escalating knife crime (something Noir is very happy to somehow 'overlook' .. as well he might, since a certain Left-wing Trump hater of a London Mayor has allowed it to escalate on HIS turf).

    Sadiq Khan is his name ... our first Muslim London mayor. He always finds time to pour vitriol in Trump's direction ... all the while remaining far more passive about murders on his own doorstep.

    Nice to know he's got (or so he THINKS) his 'priorities properly sorted out' .....

    I thoroughly agree with Trump's critical tweets aimed at London's Mayor. He richly deserves them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Do what?
    Do nothing!
    The system is perfect as it is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    If you’re having mass shootings as regularly as America is, I think that’s a ‘way to tell’.
    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    How many have there been so far this year?
    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    If you're going to step in and attempt to discuss something you know nothing about, at least try to grow the hell up.
    You've been told off, to back off, grow up and learn. You inject your whining liberal
    opinion on everything and refuse to listen to some older than wiser than you.

    @hjmick...Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    If you generously believe every claim of mass shooter from the left , 295 people have been killed in the US by mass shooters so far this year.

    Out of 330M people.

    Chicago ALONE has had more people murdered by single shooting incidents than this.

    Liberals don't care about shooting victims, they never have. They care about "can this issue get us power?"
    Okay, 295 people in mass shootings, plus many more in individual shootings, out of 350 million population.

    How many have died over the same time in mass shootings out of Europe’s ~740million ‘good citizens are unable to protect themselves’ population?
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Okay, 295 people in mass shootings, plus many more in individual shootings, out of 350 million population.

    How many have died over the same time in mass shootings out of Europe’s ~740million ‘good citizens are unable to protect themselves’ population?
    Here is the numbers Noir

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

    Now, take Baltimore, Washington DC, Detroit, Chicago and let's say New Orleans out of the US and drop them as is into Europe and see what the numbers look like.

    Without those 5 or 6 mostly black cities the overall US numbers drop to almost nothing. On par with the numbers Europe has now , and that is without taking away anyone's guns.

    Black on black crime skews the numbers way out of what otherwise would be reality, and pretending like that isn't true is nothing more than a sign that someone doesn't REALLY want to discuss issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    Here is the numbers Noir

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

    Now, take Baltimore, Washington DC, Detroit, Chicago and let's say New Orleans out of the US and drop them as is into Europe and see what the numbers look like.

    Without those 5 or 6 mostly black cities the overall US numbers drop to almost nothing. On par with the numbers Europe has now , and that is without taking away anyone's guns.

    Black on black crime skews the numbers way out of what otherwise would be reality, and pretending like that isn't true is nothing more than a sign that someone doesn't REALLY want to discuss issues.

    I don't know about the other cities, but Chicago isn't close to mostly black. Maybe 30%.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I don't know about the other cities, but Chicago isn't close to mostly black. Maybe 30%.
    For obvious reasons , however, you didn't try to dispute that black on black crime in major cities skews the US figures

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    For obvious reasons , however, you didn't try to dispute that black on black crime in major cities skews the US figures
    Why would I? That is true.


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    The only way this issue would be resolved (IMO) is if the Congress would amend the Constitution using the process as outlined including ratification of said amendment by the States. Good luck with that. Our elected representatives dance around that course of action, relying rather on more gun laws which make criminals of law abiding citizens and are largely unenforceable anyway.
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    By legally armed civilians:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...?noredirect=on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    By legally armed civilians:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...?noredirect=on

    What say you now, pacifist Noir?
    Great story - let me find you the one about the man in the U.K. who couldn’t be stopped when he went on a bloody-gun rampage because our civs didn’t have guns -...
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Great story - let me find you the one about the man in the U.K. who couldn’t be stopped when he went on a bloody-gun rampage because our civs didn’t have guns -...
    You don't have a legitimate leg to stand on, yet you persist... typical arrogant, self righteous, know it all, punk leftist.

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