Democrat Leaders Warn SCOTUS

[Gunny]

I've been asking about 'what about after Trump' since before he won the nomination. I'm pretty sure that Obama never thought his administration would lead to Trump, but it did.

Court packing would lead to more, once the Republicans regain control, which is as inevitable as the Democrats. Eventually it will be unwieldy.

The Dems are out for petty payback and they mean to have it. Nobody has done anything and rather than trying to play innocent, THAT is much to my chagrin. The GOP has had the Presidency and both houses of Congress twice since 2000 and squandered it both time with petty infighting. Had the GOP put as much effort into going after Dem BS they spent thwarting Trump, this Nation would be in a lot better shape.

But I'm sick of Democrats and their threats. Now they threaten the Supreme Court? Even I would think twice before doing that.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

OK... here's my prediction... after Trump, if a democrat takes the White House... and they go ape shit with their agenda and corrupt means of instituting it, attacking the 2nd amendment especially, states secede, LE agencies tell the feds to pound sand and America falls into total turmoil. Not going to say a second civil war, not in the sense like the first one, taking sides and shooting it out, but it will turn into a civil war of sorts. Depends on how bad things get though too. It could turn into a shooting war. I think the divide in America between the radical left and patriotic conservative America is that bad. I think the democrats are already at war with patriotic America and it's founding. The republicans just need to wise up and admit they're in a fight. They seem to be in some fog pretending they don't need to care, or as Gunny says, "like tomorrow is never going to get here." I guess when you're rich and in power, your bubble taints reality.

I could be wrong, hope I am.

[Gunny]

Something else: I was some squabble about who can say what in terms of what some people think are threats. Here's MY submission for consideration: I hope every single brand name Dem chokes on a chicken bone and drops face down in their soup and drowns. That isn't a threat. Not very Christian-like to say the least. In poor taste and inciteful for those that still think we're going to somehow talk ourselves out of a war or living in country that hardly resembles the US Constitution more than it already doesn't.

But I mean every word of it and so far, the dream police haven't caught up to me.

[Kathianne]

Something else: I was some squabble about who can say what in terms of what some people think are threats. Here's MY submission for consideration: I hope every single brand name Dem chokes on a chicken bone and drops face down in their soup and drowns. That isn't a threat. Not very Christian-like to say the least. In poor taste and inciteful for those that still think we're going to somehow talk ourselves out of a war or living in country that hardly resembles the US Constitution more than it already doesn't.

But I mean every word of it and so far, the dream police haven't caught up to me.

I basically agree, but in my head I hear my mom, "You are going to feel awful when a Democrat chokes on a chicken bone or drops face down in their soup and drowns.' LOL!

[Gunny]

OK... here's my prediction... after Trump, if a democrat takes the White House... and they go ape shit with their agenda and corrupt means of instituting it, attacking the 2nd amendment especially, states secede, LE agencies tell the feds to pound sand and America falls into total turmoil. Not going to say a second civil war, not in the sense like the first one, taking sides and shooting it out, but it will turn into a civil war of sorts. Depends on how bad things get though too. It could turn into a shooting war. I think the divide in America between the radical left and patriotic conservative America is that bad. I think the democrats are already at war with patriotic America and it's founding. The republicans just need to wise up and admit they're in a fight. They seem to be in some fog pretending they don't need to care. I guess when you're rich and in power, your bubble taints reality.

I could be wrong, hope I am.

States are not going to secede. Dems own most state and local governments because their rat-infested districts get more votes than rural ones.

It would take an armed rebellion. The right can't even get behind its own President in the best interest of the greater good. Think they're going to pull off a war to topple a government? And it will be against the US Government once the Dems get control again and they wouldn't hesitate to use the US military against any such threat. For all its talk, the right isn't going to do a damned thing. Do they ever?

[Kathianne]

States are not going to secede. Dems own most state and local governments because their rat-infested districts get more votes than rural ones.

It would take an armed rebellion. The right can't even get behind its own President in the best interest of the greater good. Think they're going to pull off a war to topple a government? And it will be against the US Government once the Dems get control again and they wouldn't hesitate to use the US military against any such threat. For all its talk, the right isn't going to do a damned thing. Do they ever?

I'm just along for the ride at this point.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

States are not going to secede. Dems own most state and local governments because their rat-infested districts get more votes than rural ones.

It would take an armed rebellion. The right can't even get behind its own President in the best interest of the greater good. Think they're going to pull off a war to topple a government? And it will be against the US Government once the Dems get control again and they wouldn't hesitate to use the US military against any such threat. For all its talk, the right isn't going to do a damned thing. Do they ever?

Well, I think states will secede. Your own state of TX has brought it up many times already, and there's states that are a lot more conservative than TX now, like TN.

There's also a constitutional convention of states, article V of the constitution. That could happen too.

And I'd never say never... a shooting war might break out. If highways get dangerous and the truckers refuse to drive into cities to deliver food, then I'm tellin' ya, the shit is REALLY going to hit the fan, seriously, hit the fan. Cities will go full blown anarchy because people will starve, and we don't have enough military to take control of it either, not all of it.

[Kathianne]

Well, I think states will secede. Your own state of TX has brought it up many times already, and there's states that are a lot more conservative than TX now, like TN.

There's also a constitutional convention of states, article V of the constitution. That could happen too.

And I'd never say never... a shooting war might break out. If highways get dangerous and the truckers refuse to drive into cities to deliver food, then I'm tellin' ya, the shit is REALLY going to hit the fan, seriously, hit the fan. Cities will go full blown anarchy because people will starve, and we don't have enough military to take control of it either, not all of it.

I have to go full Gunny on this, not going to happen.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I have to go full Gunny on this, not going to happen.

That's fine... nothing wrong with disagreeing.

[Gunny]

Well, I think states will secede. Your own state of TX has brought it up many times already, and there's states that are a lot more conservative than TX now, like TN.

There's also a constitutional convention of states, article V of the constitution. That could happen too.

And I'd never say never... a shooting war might break out. If highways get dangerous and the truckers refuse to drive into cities to deliver food, then I'm tellin' ya, the shit is REALLY going to hit the fan, seriously, hit the fan. Cities will go full blown anarchy because people will starve, and we don't have enough military to take control of it either, not all of it.

TN is not more conservative than TX. I point I have tried to make for years. Conservative/liberal is not the same in each and every place. A CA "conservative" would be a liberal here.

States won't secede because when the shit does hit the fan, the Dems will have all the cards stacked in their favor. It requires votes to secede.

The talk in Texas about secession, btw, was just reelection talk. Nobody HERE took it seriously. The MSM and left had a field day with it though.

The food thingy is what was the last straw in the US Civil War. The South had all the agriculture and the North wanted it so they took it. Not a lot of difference this time around. Only the names have changed. The North/Dems are STILL the progressives willing to kill any and everyone it takes to get their stuff and the South/Midwest/are STILL the conservatives. The lines of demarcation are just not as clear as "North and South" as they were then.

[Kathianne]

and there's differences in what 'conservative' or 'liberal' means within those groupings.

I'm very different than many here, though there are many areas of agreement. If we compared our voting rates over the years, likely not much difference.

But, things change, times change.

I and others that are different than many are as I said, "Along for the ride."

Same holds for liberals. There are many so called socialists and some that I'd call communists. Within all those though are many 'liberals' that don't sound much different than Donald Trump in answering questions on polls or previous areas of support.

[Gunny]

If the Dems "come to pass" with all their kooky crap, I have been seriously considering a couple of alternative countries I used to live in. "Age" and "family" keep getting in the way. The best way to not have to bow down to someone is to not be there. Since I won't bow down for sh*t, seems the wiser course of action is to just leave.

[icansayit]

There are THREE (3) Co-Equal Branches of Government

To ensure a separation of powers, the U.S. Federal Government is made up of three branches: legislative, executive and judicial. To ensure the government is effective and citizens' rights are protected, each branch has its own powers and responsibilities, including working with the other branches.
Branches of Government | House.gov
https://www.house.gov/the-house-expl...-of-government

[Gunny]

There are THREE (3) Co-Equal Branches of Government

To ensure a separation of powers, the U.S. Federal Government is made up of three branches: legislative, executive and judicial. To ensure the government is effective and citizens' rights are protected, each branch has its own powers and responsibilities, including working with the other branches.
Branches of Government | House.gov
https://www.house.gov/the-house-expl...-of-government

If the Dems get control of the House and Senate with a large enough majority in each, they can flat screw the other two branches.

[STTAB]

States are not going to secede. Dems own most state and local governments because their rat-infested districts get more votes than rural ones.

It would take an armed rebellion. The right can't even get behind its own President in the best interest of the greater good. Think they're going to pull off a war to topple a government? And it will be against the US Government once the Dems get control again and they wouldn't hesitate to use the US military against any such threat. For all its talk, the right isn't going to do a damned thing. Do they ever?

I said essentially the same months ago, the GOP is FAR worse than then DNC, at least the DNC fight to win, the RNC? Not so much. The essentially wasted two first years of Trump's Presidency? 100% the fault of Republicans, if Paul Ryan hadn't been such a fucking weasel and butthurt McCain would have done the world a favor and died in early 2016, things would be far different right now.

Those two men will go down in the annals of history as the worst Republicans ever.