Good Lord! The Gender Nonsense Has Crossed To the Absurd

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

We disagree in regards to hiring. If a man is the best qualified and has the credentials I'd hire him-especially 3 grade and up. Why? So many boys do not have the male influences that most kids in my generation did. It can make a world of difference to any kid without a dad, but especially those whose families are going through divorce. (Which tends to begin around 2nd-3rd grades for 1st borns).

Same with females in upper grades for math & science-if they have the credentials and seem to have passion for their subject I'd hire the best qualified.

Many of my teacher were a godsend to me. This was 40 and fifty years ago.
What they gave me, I can not put a price on. I should have went the career path
that many of them begged me to Take,
but my rebellious spirit, want for adventure, deeply ingrained rage streak and immense wildness after father's death set me upon a different course.
None of that takes away from the greatness and irreplaceable treasures those teachers so freely, and with such great kindness and so benevolently
bestowed upon this poor but very, very eager to learn young student....
I have such great respect for teachers-- for those that fit that role with honor, kindness, generosity, adeptness and pride in their hearts and souls!
Grades first through eighth are especially important in regards to giving to students in need of moral guidance, self-esteem and a voice telling them, this world will have to be faced with heart, knowledge, bravery, empathy and a host of other positive attributes if one expects to do well, be happy and live a better life....
And yes some such great and beloved, kind and dedicated teachers still exist and teach today--but these many decades later , their numbers are infinitely smaller, methinks.. A very sad reality, IMHO...-Tyr

[Kathianne]

Many of my teacher were a godsend to me. This was 40 and fifty years ago.
What they gave me, I can not put a price on. I should have went the career path
that many of them begged me to rake,
but my rebellious spirit, want for adventure, deeply ingrained rage streak and immense wildness after father's death set me upon a different course.
None of that takes away from the greatness and irreplaceable treasures those teachers so freely, and with such great kindness and so benevolently
bestowed upon this poor but very, very eager to learn young student....
I have such great respect for teachers-- for those that fit that role with honor, kindness, generosity, adeptness and pride in their hearts and souls!
Grades first through eight are especially important in regards to giving to students in need of moral guidance, self-esteem and a voice telling them, this world will have to be faced with heart, knowledge, bravery, empathy and a host of other positive attributes if one expects to do well, be happy and live a better life....
And yes some such great and beloved , kind and dedicated teachers still exist and teach today--but these many decades later , their numbers are infinitely smaller, methinks.. A very sad reality, IMHO...-Tyr

I must say that most of the younger teachers I've known are goodhearted people that love kids and want to do a good job. Their education though, like those they are now teaching was of less depth than schools delivered when I was going through. Then again, my folks did not think that we were learning as much through high school as they had up through 8th grade.

It does seem to me that 'older' teachers-those over 50, want to teach their subjects, not try to be parents or social justice instillers. The younger teachers and the 'younger' the stronger the desire, is to 'form attitudes' in the students-seriously justice warrior stuff. There have been times that the parents pick up enough to make complaints to the district office and sometimes an edict comes down to cool it. Truth is, the district administrators are MS or PhD in 'education' and bottom line are social justice warriors themselves, as that is what the university education departments churn out.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I must say that most of the younger teachers I've known are goodhearted people that love kids and want to do a good job. Their education though, like those they are now teaching was of less depth than schools delivered when I was going through. Then again, my folks did not think that we were learning as much through high school as they had up through 8th grade.

It does seem to me that 'older' teachers-those over 50, want to teach their subjects, not try to be parents or social justice instillers. The younger teachers and the 'younger' the stronger the desire, is to 'form attitudes' in the students-seriously justice warrior stuff. There have been times that the parents pick up enough to make complaints to the district office and sometimes an edict comes down to cool it. Truth is, the district administrators are MS or PhD in 'education' and bottom line are social justice warriors themselves, as that is what the university education departments churn out.

For me the sad part is that some teachers today want to teach their personal political views(oft their personal immorality too) -as fact, as the path to take -- to young students.
And much of that comes from their own university indoctrination, IMHO.
The truth is a parent should be aware of what teachers are teaching their child and if its fits the form of egregious indoctrination into a leftist/socialist ideology- that parent should raise hell against it-unless that parent agrees with it.
The reality that the public education system and the Feds seem to think they own our children and we are to be part-time, low-grade caretakers
has now spread to a very alarming level.
And those in upper control, despite their, MS or PhD in 'education' -Have not the right to countermand parents rights in regards to certain moral, religious and character forming standards preset by the birth parents. Of course, it is also very true that a very delicate balance must be adhered to should the teacher also try to instill positive attributes/morality/sensibility in the child if the parents do not give such or even care.
A very sticky wicket to be sure that path, but one many of my own teachers took and for that I have an undying gratitude and immensely bountiful admiration of and for.
As I saw kids that were in far greater need than I, benefit tremendously from it.. -Tyr

[STTAB]

For me the sad part is that some teachers today want to teach their personal political views(oft their personal immorality too) -as fact, as the path to take -- to young students.
And much of that comes from their own university indoctrination, IMHO.
The truth is a parent should be aware of what teachers are teaching their child and if its fits the form of egregious indoctrination into a leftist/socialist ideology- that parent should raise hell against it-unless that parent agrees with it.
The reality that the public education system and the Feds seem to think they own our children and we are to be part-time, low-grade caretakers
has now spread to a very alarming level.
And those in upper control, despite their, MS or PhD in 'education' -Have not the right to countermand parents rights in regards to certain moral, religious and character forming standards preset by the birth parents. Of course, it is also very true that a very delicate balance must be adhered to should the teacher also try to instill positive attributes/morality/sensibility in the child if the parents do not give such or even care.
A very sticky wicket to be sure that path, but one many of my own teachers took and for that I have an undying gratitude and immensely bountiful admiration of and for.
As I saw kids that were in far greater need than I, benefit tremendously from it.. -Tyr

To be fair , there are a lot of shitty parents out there who need someone else making decisions for them.

First day of school this year we had a situation with a freshman girl wearing essentially a see through top with no bra. She was called into the office shown the dress code that her parents signed acknowledging they had seen it and agreed to make sure their children were dressed appropriately and told she could change if she had other outfits with her or call for a ride home.

Her mother was called and refused to come get her daughter literally screaming at the principle " I saw what my daughter had on and I don't care about your rules, it's my choice whether to let her wear it or not, not yours. Now pictures were taken as evidence and every member of the school board has seen them and let's just say if I ever wondered what 14 year old titties looked like, I now know. Her top left ZERO to the imagination, it wasn't even a close call in regards to the dress code.

The school resource officer (one of our female ones) took the young woman home to change and the mom was there and just flew into a rage again to a god damned cop.

At that point the officer said it was actually the daughter being the adult and telling her mom to calm down she would just go chqange

What do you with a parent like that? Does the school not need to step in and say "no ma'am you can't wear that?" Is that the school pushing their "morality" on a student?

Update to story, my wife - who is an ADA in our county sent the mom a letter via registered mail informing her that if her daughter wore something like to school again SHE would be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Now, who the hell knows if that would stick, but maybe just the threat alone will get that mom to wake the fuck up.

[SassyLady]

To be fair , there are a lot of shitty parents out there who need someone else making decisions for them.

First day of school this year we had a situation with a freshman girl wearing essentially a see through top with no bra. She was called into the office shown the dress code that her parents signed acknowledging they had seen it and agreed to make sure their children were dressed appropriately and told she could change if she had other outfits with her or call for a ride home.

Her mother was called and refused to come get her daughter literally screaming at the principle " I saw what my daughter had on and I don't care about your rules, it's my choice whether to let her wear it or not, not yours. Now pictures were taken as evidence and every member of the school board has seen them and let's just say if I ever wondered what 14 year old titties looked like, I now know. Her top left ZERO to the imagination, it wasn't even a close call in regards to the dress code.

The school resource officer (one of our female ones) took the young woman home to change and the mom was there and just flew into a rage again to a god damned cop.

At that point the officer said it was actually the daughter being the adult and telling her mom to calm down she would just go chqange

What do you with a parent like that? Does the school not need to step in and say "no ma'am you can't wear that?" Is that the school pushing their "morality" on a student?

Update to story, my wife - who is an ADA in our county sent the mom a letter via registered mail informing her that if her daughter wore something like to school again SHE would be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Now, who the hell knows if that would stick, but maybe just the threat alone will get that mom to wake the fuck up.

I agree ... there are a ton of shitty parents out there. Mine were shitty. Thank goodness I had some good teachers.