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    Jim, I've had glitchy problems with my wifi out here in my shop for quite awhile now. Thought it was just a weak signal even though I'm still getting 50Mbps down. So I bought a new 802.11ac dongle and that didn't change anything, speed is the same, so I checked the wifi on my new Dell laptop and it's just as slow. My wired internet is 129.54Mbps down, so I called mediacom and they said my wifi should be just as fast as my ethernet, so a tech is supposed to be here in the morning to straighten it out.

    So question, is your wifi just as fast as your wired ethernet? And do you have the new 802.11ac or the older 802.11n? But even the n is good for up to 300Mbps so... I don't know what the problem is here, but my wifi has always been less than half as fast as my wired ethernet, and according to mediacom, they should be the same speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    @jimnyc

    Jim, I've had glitchy problems with my wifi out here in my shop for quite awhile now. Thought it was just a weak signal even though I'm still getting 50Mbps down. So I bought a new 802.11ac dongle and that didn't change anything, speed is the same, so I checked the wifi on my new Dell laptop and it's just as slow. My wired internet is 129.54Mbps down, so I called mediacom and they said my wifi should be just as fast as my ethernet, so a tech is supposed to be here in the morning to straighten it out.

    So question, is your wifi just as fast as your wired ethernet? And do you have the new 802.11ac or the older 802.11n? But even the n is good for up to 300Mbps so... I don't know what the problem is here, but my wifi has always been less than half as fast as my wired ethernet, and according to mediacom, they should be the same speed.
    Some of the better routers ARE rated to get such higher speeds, but your provider needs to deliver that amount, and then your router needs to pass it through to your devices without being a bottleneck.

    What model do you use?

    I had an older one and juts upgraded recently. While I don't get the same speeds, it did increase my speed nicely and also made it much more stable and stronger of a signal. What I bought was an Asus RTAC68U. https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC68U/

    Also, how great is the CPU and laptop situation? I don't recall but I think you did post it in the past. While new, just ensure it's strong enough to process everything. And memory size? At least 8, but preferably 16.

    I don't think you'll see identical speeds, but hopefully the tech can figure out why you aren't getting higher speeds. How good is your signal overall? Which router name/model (asked above).

    50 down is pretty damn good for a laptop on wifi. Have you gotten higher than that 50 on another network by chance? Just curious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Some of the better routers ARE rated to get such higher speeds, but your provider needs to deliver that amount, and then your router needs to pass it through to your devices without being a bottleneck.

    What model do you use?

    I had an older one and juts upgraded recently. While I don't get the same speeds, it did increase my speed nicely and also made it much more stable and stronger of a signal. What I bought was an Asus RTAC68U. https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC68U/

    Also, how great is the CPU and laptop situation? I don't recall but I think you did post it in the past. While new, just ensure it's strong enough to process everything. And memory size? At least 8, but preferably 16.

    I don't think you'll see identical speeds, but hopefully the tech can figure out why you aren't getting higher speeds. How good is your signal overall? Which router name/model (asked above).

    50 down is pretty damn good for a laptop on wifi. Have you gotten higher than that 50 on another network by chance? Just curious!
    I guess I neglected to mention that my wifi comes straight off my Mediacom modem, it's built in. That was a new one on me. I didn't know they made such animals. My son says I should just get my own modem and router too, but I would just rather not mess with it. But I was always under the impression that wifi should be just as fast as your wired internet. I've known it's not for some time but thought well, maybe that's just the way it is. Yeah the kid is always like Dad, do this, do that, get this, get that, check the duplexing, blah, blah, blah, but hey ya sod buster, YOU are an IT/NETWORKING person with an B.S. degree in the stuff that works at a freakin' TV station, I'M NOT. I like tech but c'mon... I can get tripped up with this crap fast when it gets over my head...

    Yeah the shop computer is a vintage old POS. Slow processor and buss speeds, but the new DELL laptop is a screaming monster with an 8th Gen i7 processor, 16G of RAM and a 265MB SSD. It's wifi is set up for 802.11ac as well. But even though the desktop in the shop is old, it's still setup for 802.11n, which can handle up to 300Mbps. So my slow wifi is all on Mediacom because the Dell in the house gets the same down wifi speed as the old POS in the shop.

    I just wondered if wifi was always supposed to be slower than wired ethernet.

    Just checked playing some 1080i video in the shop and the new wifi dongle improved that. It used to lockup and such when I'd click and move the video ahead. It plays good with no problems now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    I guess I neglected to mention that my wifi comes straight off my Mediacom modem, it's built in. That was a new one on me. I didn't know they made such animals. My son says I should just get my own modem and router too, but I would just rather not mess with it. But I was always under the impression that wifi should be just as fast as your wired internet. I've known it's not for some time but thought well, maybe that's just the way it is. Yeah the kid is always like Dad, do this, do that, get this, get that, check the duplexing, blah, blah, blah, but hey ya sod buster, YOU are an IT/NETWORKING person with an B.S. degree in the stuff that works at a freakin' TV station, I'M NOT. I like tech but c'mon... I can get tripped up with this crap fast when it gets over my head...

    Yeah the shop computer is a vintage old POS. Slow processor and buss speeds, but the new DELL laptop is a screaming monster with an 8th Gen i7 processor, 16G of RAM and a 265MB SSD. It's wifi is set up for 802.11ac as well. But even though the desktop in the shop is old, it's still setup for 802.11n, which can handle up to 300Mbps. So my slow wifi is all on Mediacom because the Dell in the house gets the same down wifi speed as the old POS in the shop.

    I just wondered if wifi was always supposed to be slower than wired ethernet.

    Just checked playing some 1080i video in the shop and the new wifi dongle improved that. It used to lockup and such when I'd click and move the video ahead. It plays good with no problems now.
    Well, I use the modem that Cablevision supplied too, they usually aren't the issue. But I would definitely get and use my own router and disable the one on the modem. Get something similar to mine. ORRRRR - maybe your son or someone else has a good one you can borrow for a few minutes and test a bit? Make sure you lookup your modem model fist and make sure you can find out how to disable to router portion. If it's rented from them, you may not be able to mess with it. If you bought it from them outright, then I think you should have access. Of course a new modem that would work on your line would also solve the problem. But if the tech is there tomorrow, maybe he can better answer that modem/router questions first.

    Sure, perhaps the ratings for the modem/router/wifi may all be able to handle such speeds, but usually in my experience I have always seen wifi a bit slower. But it doesn't have to be much, and certainly a negligible difference. In other words, 100Mb download speeds instead of a wired 130Mb speed (just examples), while slower would be a speed you likely wouldn't see a huge difference.

    My desktop is Windows 10 of course, the latest I9-9900 processor (8 cores @ 3.6ghz), RTX 2060 Geforce display, 32 gig ram, 240gig bootup SSD, then a SATA of 3 terabytes - then 2 externals, one 1 terabyte, and also one that is 2 terabytes, DVD writer... Then a sweet case you can see through, and 6 red fans and liquid cooling to keep her all cooled off. Picture with lame reflection sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Well, I use the modem that Cablevision supplied too, they usually aren't the issue. But I would definitely get and use my own router and disable the one on the modem. Get something similar to mine. ORRRRR - maybe your son or someone else has a good one you can borrow for a few minutes and test a bit? Make sure you lookup your modem model fist and make sure you can find out how to disable to router portion. If it's rented from them, you may not be able to mess with it. If you bought it from them outright, then I think you should have access. Of course a new modem that would work on your line would also solve the problem. But if the tech is there tomorrow, maybe he can better answer that modem/router questions first.

    Sure, perhaps the ratings for the modem/router/wifi may all be able to handle such speeds, but usually in my experience I have always seen wifi a bit slower. But it doesn't have to be much, and certainly a negligible difference. In other words, 100Mb download speeds instead of a wired 130Mb speed (just examples), while slower would be a speed you likely wouldn't see a huge difference.

    My desktop is Windows 10 of course, the latest I9-9900 processor (8 cores @ 3.6ghz), RTX 2060 Geforce display, 32 gig ram, 240gig bootup SSD, then a SATA of 3 terabytes - then 2 externals, one 1 terabyte, and also one that is 2 terabytes, DVD writer... Then a sweet case you can see through, and 6 red fans and liquid cooling to keep her all cooled off. Picture with lame reflection sucks.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/19LA...ew?usp=sharing

    and goofy type of montage thingy

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/193K...ew?usp=sharing
    My GAWD, bro... that is SAAAAWEEEET!

    I've been looking for an upgrade but when you get up into computers like your's, they're NOT CHEAP. I have this one in my wish list on Amazon...

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R4PK6B4...v_ov_lig_dp_it

    I've been thinking that when I get to uploading and editing 4K video from the new Sony FDR AX53 video camera, I'm going to need some fast processing speeds. Ironically the graphics card in that big Dell is the same one I installed in this old crapola desktop in the shop. It didn't change much though because it has such a slow processor. Wonder if I could order the Dell without it and install the one out of this old HP?

    I guess I'll learn a lot tomorrow about the wifi here off their modem. I'm going to ask about "what ifs" like just buying my own modem and router if there's no way to speed up the wifi. I don't think it's fair to be paying for 100 down and then only get less than half that on wifi.
    Last edited by High_Plains_Drifter; 08-18-2019 at 04:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    My GAWD, bro... that is SAAAAWEEEET!

    I've been looking for an upgrade but when you get up into computers like your's, they're NOT CHEAP. I have this one in my wish list on Amazon...

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R4PK6B4...v_ov_lig_dp_it

    I've been thinking that when I get to uploading and editing 4K video from the new Sony FDR AX53 video camera, I'm going to need some fast processing speeds. Ironically the graphics card in that big Dell is the same one I installed in this old crapola desktop in the shop. It didn't change much though because it has such a slow processor. Wonder if I could order the Dell without it and install the one out of this old HP?

    I guess I'll learn a lot tomorrow about the wifi here off their modem. I'm going to ask about "what ifs" like just buying my own modem and router if there's no way to speed up the wifi. I don't think it's fair to be paying for 100 down and then only get less than half that on wifi.
    I went all out this time. My last 2 pc's... last one lasted me 10 years. The one prior was like 8 years. Additional PC's on the side but not as good. So I figured I better get something that will last & still perform at a high level for awhile. But yeah, all told it was nearly $2k.

    Everything on your choice looks great as well. Not sure if they will work with you on any configuration changes, but 64gig of memory is a ton! Not sure it will ever be used. Same with my 32, but I'm hoping the extra memory gets used as temporary drive space as ram while using some heavy duty stuff.

    Try these guys: https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

    Can't go wrong with any of them in the gaming series. Hell, even their gamin laptops are great, but I prefer a desktop. I really don't travel or move around much. You can peek around, and every choice is highly configurable. But pricey!! But all the products and parts to build their PC's are top notch!
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