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The New York Slimes, yes I spit on them all-- the entire bunch of arrogant elitist asshats that push their leftist ideology and smug views as fact, as truth, as reality.Originally Posted by Kathianne
Such worthless vermin make me want to vomit....--Tyr
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I've kind of been pointing out this topic for years (decades). THE biggest problem is mainstream, middle class white (and anyone that doesn't want to be called Uncle Tom or racist) won't discuss the topic. Post thread after thread and it's crickets chirping time. A topic cannot be discussed if you won't say the name out of fear of being called a name.
Blacks are disproportionately represented to mainstream America in every facet of our lives. It is and has been a concerted effort by the apologetic left who claim to have a cause. I'm still waiting for the Dems to actually deliver anything meaningful. Anyone who wants a good look at the future where this is going need only look at what "entitled" blacks with no skills did to South Africa. That country is now so far behind the 8 ball Greece looks like a wealthy haven by comparison.
Blacks make up between 13-15% of the US population, depending on whose numbers you want to use. 13-15%. You would think they were 70% and the majority they way they are presented and/or forced into everything from something as simple as comic book characters suddenly becoming black who were white for decades to the number of black representatives in our government.
I will add the same strategy is being used for gays. By the time it's said and done if they have their way, gays will have populated the Earth
There isn't a black, a female and a gay white male in every damned social group; yet, to listen to the media, and I mean ALL forms of media, you would think so. All anyone that doesn't want to see blacks has to do is get away from their rat-infested cities. You go out in the country where one has to work constantly to get by and there is no audience to feel sorry for the plight of their ancestors 2 centuries ago and blacks are few and far between.
Just like the nameless, not wealthy socialists that are all for socialism, one has to wonder just where all these whites like O'Rourke and Warren think they fit in the big scheme of things after they have enabled the unworthy to dispossess those that worked to build this country. How stupid and blind do you have to be to realize "hey, I'm white and cutting my own throat"?
When numbers are presented proportionally, blacks just aren't really part of the big picture. Unfortunately, the progressive left has been rewriting our history since Day One. They aren't going to stop and nobody is going to stop them. If this continues as is, whites will be dispossessed just because they are white and owe blacks, the very reason given by the black government of S Africa to do it.
Why? Because whites are afraid to say enough and call a spade a spade (pun intended). Wouldn't want to save our history and heritage from being rewritten by actually saying the progressive blacks on the left are out to destroy white America the same as the progressive left is out to destroy free America.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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I've kind of been pointing out this topic for years (decades). THE biggest problem is mainstream, middle class white (and anyone that doesn't want to be called Uncle Tom or racist) won't discuss the topic. Post thread after thread and it's crickets chirping time. A topic cannot be discussed if you won't say the name out of fear of being called a name.
Blacks are disproportionately represented to mainstream America in every facet of our lives. It is and has been a concerted effort by the apologetic left who claim to have a cause. I'm still waiting for the Dems to actually deliver anything meaningful. Anyone who wants a good look at the future where this is going need only look at what "entitled" blacks with no skills did to South Africa. That country is now so far behind the 8 ball Greece looks like a wealthy haven by comparison.
Blacks make up between 13-15% of the US population, depending on whose numbers you want to use. 13-15%. You would think they were 70% and the majority they way they are presented and/or forced into everything from something as simple as comic book characters suddenly becoming black who were white for decades to the number of black representatives in our government.
I will add the same strategy is being used for gays. By the time it's said and done if they have their way, gays will have populated the Earth
There isn't a black, a female and a gay white male in every damned social group; yet, to listen to the media, and I mean ALL forms of media, you would think so. All anyone that doesn't want to see blacks has to do is get away from their rat-infested cities. You go out in the country where one has to work constantly to get by and there is no audience to feel sorry for the plight of their ancestors 2 centuries ago and blacks are few and far between.
Just like the nameless, not wealthy socialists that are all for socialism, one has to wonder just where all these whites like O'Rourke and Warren think they fit in the big scheme of things after they have enabled the unworthy to dispossess those that worked to build this country. How stupid and blind do you have to be to realize "hey, I'm white and cutting my own throat"?
When numbers are presented proportionally, blacks just aren't really part of the big picture. Unfortunately, the progressive left has been rewriting our history since Day One. They aren't going to stop and nobody is going to stop them. If this continues as is, whites will be dispossessed just because they are white and owe blacks, the very reason given by the black government of S Africa to do it.
Why? Because whites are afraid to say enough and call a spade a spade (pun intended). Wouldn't want to save our history and heritage from being rewritten by actually saying the progressive blacks on the left are out to destroy white America the same as the progressive left is out to destroy free America.
Gunny, I'm not certain I'm understanding you here? If it were blacks that came up with this idea, then I think I'd get it, but it's quite obvious this is seems to be coming from a group of middle aged Ivy alumni who sat around drinking for years and ended up at the NYT, one of them as an editor.
When the Russian plan failed, someone said, "Hey, we can dust off the slave perspective thing we used to do while playing beer pong years ago. We'll use it as the base of how all the white supremacists that voted Trump are throwing the heroes of country under the bus and they will lose and be forever the pariahs they deserve. We'll always have the people of color votes!"
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Dean P. Baquet (/bæˈkeɪ/;[1] born September 21, 1956)[2] is an American journalist. He has been the executive editor of The New York Times since May 14, 2014. Between 2011 and 2014 Baquet was managing editor under the previous executive editor Jill Abramson. He is the first black American to serve as executive editor.[3
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Do you get it now?
Dean P. Baquet (/bæˈkeɪ/;[1] born September 21, 1956)[2] is an American journalist. He has been the executive editor of The New York Times since May 14, 2014. Between 2011 and 2014 Baquet was managing editor under the previous executive editor Jill Abramson. He is the first black American to serve as executive editor.[3
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Baquet
Baquet graduated from St. Augustine High School in 1974.[6] Baquet studied English at Columbia University from 1974 to 1978; he dropped out to pursue a career in journalism.[7
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When the NYT loses The Week:
https://theweek.com/articles/859776/...ders-left-race
The New York Times surrenders to the left on race
Damon Linker
August 20, 2019
There's no denying that the much-lauded "1619 Project" at The New York Times is a remarkable achievement. Whether it's an achievement that the paper and its staff should be proud of is another matter.
For those who haven't been following along, this past weekend the paper devoted the entirety (just under 100 pages) of The New York Times Magazine, along with a separate stand-alone section of the Sunday paper, to a breathtakingly ambitious and ideologically radical undertaking — nothing less than the telling of the story of American history, perhaps for the very first time, "truthfully."
Inside, a note from NYTM editor Jake Silverstein informs his readers that it is wrong to trace the true origin of the United States to the founding of the English settlement in Jamestown, Virginia, in 1607, or to the landing of the Puritans at Plymouth Rock in 1620, or to the publication of the Declaration of Independence in 1776. Instead, the Times proposes to overturn such mythmaking in favor of an effort to "reframe American history," treating 1619 as "our nation's birth year."
Why 1619? Because that's when the first ship carrying African slaves arrived on American shores, and the Times intends to place "the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of the story we tell ourselves about who we are as a country." This reframing is necessary because out of slavery "grew nearly everything that has truly made America exceptional."
Now, there is a lot to admire in the paper's presentation of the 1619 Project — searing photographs, illuminating quotations from archival material, samples of poetry and fiction giving powerful voice to the black experience, and gripping journalistic summaries of scholarly histories. Much of it is wrenching, moving, and infuriating. The country's treatment of the slaves and their descendants through the century following emancipation and, in some respects, on down to the present was and is appalling — and the story of how it happened, and keeps happening, is extremely important for understanding the United States. Bringing this story to a wide audience is a worthwhile public service.
Yet that isn't the point of the 1619 project. The point, once again, is to "reframe American history" so that this appalling history stands at the very center of who we are as a country. Achieving that goal has required the Times to treat history in a highly sensationalistic, reductionistic, and tendentious way, with the cumulative result resembling agitprop more than responsible journalism or scholarship. Putting aside any pretense toward nuance or complexity, the paper has surrendered to the sensibility of left-wing political activists. The result is unpersuasive — and a sad comment on the state of our country's public life.
Throughout the issue of the NYTM, headlines make, with just slight variations, the same rhetorical move over and over again: "Here is something unpleasant, unjust, or even downright evil about life in the present-day United States. Bet you didn't realize that slavery is ultimately to blame." Lack of universal access to health care? High rates of sugar consumption? Callous treatment of incarcerated prisoners? White recording artists "stealing" black music? Harsh labor practices? That's right — all of it, and far more, follows from slavery.
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And the 1619 Project is all about advancing a radical political agenda. The message it aims to convey is clear: The United States is and always has been, from its very origin, a racist country infected by a white supremacist ideology that has birthed and nurtured institutions and systems — from Congress to capitalism — that systematically disadvantage black Americans. Political actors of the present have a simple choice: They can either embrace (invariably left-liberal or socialist) policies that will begin the process of dismantling these pervasive forms of structural injustice — or they can oppose doing so and ensure that the injustices continue, with toxic racism remaining where it has been for the past four centuries, at the very center of American life. Those are the choices.
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I mentioned that. Certainly blacks did not come up with the idea. White, apologetic progressives did. IMO, it started out mainly to punish the South post-Civil War and took on a life of its own. Lincoln promised freed blacks 40 acres and a mule they're still waiting on.
You see this as a Trump thing and I see it at something that has been fostered by the welfare mentality and telling blacks they are entitled to reparation for their ancestors being slaves. Trump had nothing to do with the discussion before Trump and I was already having it. It could be both.
The issue has been there since the end of the US Civil War, and groomed by revisionists since. If it's a handy topic to regurgitate so the NYT than can get the focus on anything but itself, I have no issue with that point. The NYT is not going to get the spotlight off itself covering something that isn't progressive and above all controversial enough to shift the focus.
SO if you're saying the NYT sucks, I would have agreed with you before this threadThe issue itself irks the crap out of me. You should know by now what I think about revising history. It's no wonder we can't learn from it. We don't know what it is.
It does not surprise me that public schools would use the trash the NYT provides them. Want to bet the schools are jumping on free books (gifts or grants) with little regard to content? You would know better than I.
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Super Minion
No, this comes from the NYT itself, on how to 'deal with Trump' once the Mueller/Russia thing died. This is what the NYT is now going to push! White Supremacy, based on it being the problem since 1619.I mentioned that. Certainly blacks did not come up with the idea. White, apologetic progressives did. IMO, it started out mainly to punish the South post-Civil War and took on a life of its own. Lincoln promised freed blacks 40 acres and a mule they're still waiting on.
You see this as a Trump thing and I see it at something that has been fostered by the welfare mentality and telling blacks they are entitled to reparation for their ancestors being slaves. Trump had nothing to do with the discussion before Trump and I was already having it. It could be both.
The issue has been there since the end of the US Civil War, and groomed by revisionists since. If it's a handy topic to regurgitate so the NYT than can get the focus on anything but itself, I have no issue with that point. The NYT is not going to get the spotlight off itself covering something that isn't progressive and above all controversial enough to shift the focus.
SO if you're saying the NYT sucks, I would have agreed with you before this thread
It does not surprise me that public schools would use the trash the NYT provides them. Want to bet the schools are jumping on free books (gifts or grants) with little regard to content? You would know better than I.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...rget-trump-too
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That this was leaked proves that someone there realized just how bad this is. Leaked meeting of 1619 project:
https://www.conservativedailynews.co...ing-full-text/
Executive Editor Dean Baquet held a crisis town hall Monday after the maelstrom that erupted over a Trump headline. Someone at that meeting recorded, transcribed and then leaked the transcription.
The meeting ranged from how the bad headline got past the editorial process to how they intend to cover Trump going forward.
Baquet admits they purpose-built the newsroom to cover the Russia-collusion conspiracy theory as a singular storyline from a singular, prejudicial viewpoint. He then goes on to explain that since that didn’t work, they’ll reconfigure the newsroom to paint the President of the United States as a racist, without actually calling him that.
Full transcript of the 8/19/19 meeting at the New York Times
Dean Baquet: If we’re really going to be a transparent newsroom that debates these issues among ourselves and not on Twitter, I figured I should talk to the whole newsroom, and hear from the whole newsroom. We had a couple of significant missteps, and I know you’re concerned about them, and I am, too. But there’s something larger at play here. This is a really hard story, newsrooms haven’t confronted one like this since the 1960s. It got trickier after [inaudible] … went from being a story about whether the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia and obstruction of justice to being a more head-on story about the president’s character. We built our newsroom to cover one story, and we did it truly well. Now we have to regroup, and shift resources and emphasis to take on a different story. I’d love your help with that. As Audra Burch said when I talked to her this weekend, this one is a story about what it means to be an American in 2019. It is a story that requires deep investigation into people who peddle hatred, but it is also a story that requires imaginative use of all our muscles to write about race and class in a deeper way than we have in years. In the coming weeks, we’ll be assigning some new people to politics who can offer different ways of looking at the world. We’ll also ask reporters to write more deeply about the country, race, and other divisions. I really want your help in navigating this story.
But I also want to [inaudible] this as a forum to say something about who we are and what we stand for. We are an independent news organization, one of the few remaining. And that means there will be stories and journalism of all kinds that will upset our readers and even some of you. I’m not talking about true errors. In those cases, we should listen, own up to them, admit them, show some humility—but not wallow in them—and move on. What I’m saying is that our readers and some of our staff cheer us when we take on Donald Trump, but they jeer at us when we take on Joe Biden. They sometimes want us to pretend that he was not elected president, but he was elected president. And our job is to figure out why, and how, and to hold the administration to account. If you’re independent, that’s what you do. The same newspaper that this week will publish the 1619 Project, the most ambitious examination of the legacy of slavery ever undertaken in [inaudible] newspaper, to try to understand the forces that led to the election of Donald Trump. And that means trying to understand the segment of America that probably does not read us. The same newspaper that can publish a major story on Fox News, and how some of its commentators purvey anti-immigrant conspiracies, also has to talk to people who think immigration may cost them jobs and who oppose abortion on religious grounds. Being independent also means not editing the New York Times for Twitter, which can be unforgiving and toxic. And actually, as Amanda Cox reminds me, doesn’t really represent the left or the right. [inaudible] who care deeply about the Times and who want us to do better, we should listen to those people. But it is also filled with people who flat out don’t like us or who, as Jack Shafer put it, want us to be something we are not going to be.
By the way, let’s catch our breath before tweeting stupid stuff or stuff that hurts the paper—or treats our own colleagues in a way that we would never treat them in person. It is painful to me personally, and it destabilizes the newsroom when our own staff tweets things they could never write in our own pages or when we attack each other on Twitter. But let me end where I began: This is hard stuff. We’re covering a president who lies and says outlandish things. It should summon all of our resources and call upon all of our efforts to build a newsroom where diversity and open discussion is valued. We will make mistakes, and we will talk about them openly. We’ll do things that cause us to disagree with each other, but hopefully we’ll talk about them openly and wrestle with them. I want your help figuring out how to cover this world. I want the input—I need it. So now I’m going to open the floor to questions.
Staffer: Could you explain your decision not to more regularly use the word racist in reference to the president’s actions?
Baquet: Yeah, I’m actually almost practiced at this one now. Look, my own view is that the best way to capture a remark, like the kinds of remarks the president makes, is to use them, to lay it out in perspective. That is much more powerful than the use of a word.
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I saw that and I understand what you are pointing at. I'm pointing at the same thing just with and older, longer brush. There would be no 1619 Project without all the century-+ groundwork. I guess I'm just not as astonished to find the NYT pushing this agenda in an attempt to divert people away from looking too closely at its Trump-Russia coverage.
The only reason I am not (or wasn't) a journalist at the Miami Herald is because once I figured out what journalism was being used for I couldn't get rid of the bad taste in my mouth with it.
Take a set of facts and create a story to lead the reader to the conclusion you (the media) want them to come to. Not, as is taught, present a set of facts that lead up to/support an event or even a logical conclusion or let the reader decide. They teach truth. They practice otherwise.
The NYT should have been gutted from the basement up long ago. Its been a propaganda rag from the start. Along with the SF Chronicle, LA Time, Washington Post et al. Thing is, we grew up believing these people. If Walter said the sky was orange, you didn't bother looking.
So I was going to ask my dad about certain things that happened when I was a kid just to get his perspective. Same with the daughter. Think either of their stories will match mine? That's the game being played here. Let's focus on slaves and what happened to them according to them, while the other 95% of the population is happenstance and window dressing. Only they matter(ed).
Nobody is going to stop them. That's the way the right rolls (over).
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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We're seeing it differently, at least from the history point of view. With the prism of 1619 everything is false through it.
As for using it to 'white supremacy' all, you're correct, they will succeed.
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I see exactly what they are attempting to do. Quite the ambitious lot. Of course the 1619 narrative is false. Isn't that how the left rolls? Have you ever really talked to blacks about how they view things? That's an honest question. All of this crap we know isn't true about most whites and the factual history is gospel to them. This country wouldn't exist without them. They did all the work. Blah, blah, blah.
They believe that. They believe we, not they, are the racists. That is hardly limited to just blacks who think that way.
While I get it, I see it as an ongoing push by progressives, as they do in everything, until they just wear us out or time helps them out. What better issue to take up than one no one will talk about for fear of being labeled a racist? You can tell whatever fairy tale you want and if it's the only story out there then it must be THE story. With our society and the chucklehead mealy-mouthers on the Right that's a damned good plan.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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What irks me the most about it? They've been flat busted and their plan leaked and they still don't care and will go through with it anyway and more than likely succeed.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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These 4 are the face of the democrat party.
Whatever they accomplish with the election and this prism doesn't bother me nearly as much as what I fear it will do to teaching kids. History is screwed up enough, this will put a nail in the coffin.
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