This is a perfect example of over psychoanalyzing something to the point of absurdity.
It's like asking, when does the sun come up? Is it up when you can first see a little sliver of it, is it up when you can see half of it, some other lessor or greater fraction, or is it not up until you can see all of it, blah, blah, blah?
Who in the fuck cares? Can you see it? Is it light outside? Yes? OK then, the fucking sun is up.
Why does anyone waste brain time on such inane crap?
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