Bolton Out

[STTAB]

Pompeo's suggestion or whomever the President chooses, will be like Rand Paul. You should be very happy.

I am so not a fan of Rand Paul's lol

I think a variety of opinions is good , but I also think Bolton wasn't above shading intel to push Trump in the direction HE thought he should go. I don't like that.

[Kathianne]

I am so not a fan of Rand Paul's lol

I think a variety of opinions is good , but I also think Bolton wasn't above shading intel to push Trump in the direction HE thought he should go. I don't like that.

As I said, my guess you will like the next. I also expect we'll be seeing a withdrawal of American troops from all over the world, particularly the ME.

[STTAB]

As I said, my guess you will like the next. I also expect we'll be seeing a withdrawal of American troops from all over the world, particularly the ME.

I am fine with that as long as we fuck the Taliban up on the way out.

Hell, if I were President we'd have no troops in Europe or at least far fewer than we have now, and the same with South Korea. This isn't the 18th Century where we need a battleship and thousands of men to deter some nut from doing something stupid. We can strike anywhere in the world in a matter of hours if we need to.

Bring those soldiers home and use them to oh I don't know actually provide for the national defense and let people in Asia worry about Asia etc etc.

[icansayit]

Pretty well covers all of the banter, hyperbole, accusations, rumors, and conspiracy theories presented almost everywhere...ALL THE TIME.
Let's all agree. WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, OR LIKE WHAT OTHERS SAY, DO, THINK, WONDER ABOUT, OR HOW THEY ACT.
Terrible trait of HUMAN'S.

[STTAB]

In the long run it probably will not matter. With the dust up, I expect that Bolton will not be as circumspect as Mattis was.

He will write a book and or be hired by CNN who is suddenly going to decide that getting out of war is un American.

[Kathianne]

He will write a book and or be hired by CNN who is suddenly going to decide that getting out of war is un American.

Pretty much.

[Drummond]

Never underestimate the power of propaganda.

Maybe you do have modern powers, not necessitating manpower presences clear across the world. Nonetheless ... withdrawals permit a new propaganda offensive to take hold. Allow your enemies to interpret the American military as being 'on the run', or, just that the resolve to maintain levels as they are is absent ... your enemies will do the obvious, and accuse the US of weakness.

Whether or not it's 'true', won't matter. Your actions could be perceived that way, leading to greater, avoidable levels of fresh recruitment.

I think this is a reality that Bolton understands well. If so, he is, of course, right.

[Kathianne]

Never underestimate the power of propaganda.

Maybe you do have modern powers, not necessitating manpower presences clear across the world. Nonetheless ... withdrawals permit a new propaganda offensive to take hold. Allow your enemies to interpret the American military as being 'on the run', or, just that the resolve to maintain levels as they are is absent ... your enemies will do the obvious, and accuse the US of weakness.

Whether or not it's 'true', won't matter. Your actions could be perceived that way, leading to greater, avoidable levels of fresh recruitment.

I think this is a reality that Bolton understands well. If so, he is, of course, right.

Agreed. Trump's binary choice scenario is, "tens of thousands killed," or "bring them home."

[SassyLady]

I'd rather fight the enemy over there than here.

[Kathianne]

I'd rather fight the enemy over there than here.

Yea, pretty much how I think.

[Noir]

Good. The further Bolton is from any sort of power or decision making the better.

[Drummond]

Good. The further Bolton is from any sort of power or decision making the better.

Do you resent his approach to US security, @Noir ? Is he, perhaps, too much of a patriot for you ?

I'm sure America is dying to know your view !! What, according to you, is so objectionable about Mr Bolton ?

[Kathianne]

Do you resent his approach to US security, @Noir ? Is he, perhaps, too much of a patriot for you ?

I'm sure America is dying to know your view !! What, according to you, is so objectionable about Mr Bolton ?

Here's some folks that agree with Noir, remarkable that Tucker Carlson referred to Bolton last night as 'a man from the left.'

https://apnews.com/37af97677c2c4cd98d751e1075f0c13b

Iran urges US to ‘put warmongers aside’ after Bolton firing
By NASSER KARIMI
today


TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran’s president urged the U.S. on Wednesday to “put warmongers aside” as tensions roil the Persian Gulf amid an escalating crisis between Washington and Tehran in the wake of the collapsing nuclear deal with world powers.


Hassan Rouhani’s remarks signaled approval of President Donald Trump’s abrupt dismissal of John Bolton as national security adviser, a man routinely pilloried by Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif as part of a “B Team” that targeted Iran.


Bolton had for years been critical of Tehran and once promised before an Iranian exile group that they’d be celebrating the overthrow of Iran’s government this year.

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[Drummond]

Here's some folks that agree with Noir, remarkable that Tucker Carlson referred to Bolton last night as 'a man from the left.'

https://apnews.com/37af97677c2c4cd98d751e1075f0c13b

... ahh. So .. IRAN approves of Bolton's departure ! Oh, well, there y'go, then.

I really needed to be guided, even 'corrected', by Iran's viewpoint !!

Perhaps Noir did, too .. ?

Bolton, from my point of view, was, and is, a considerable asset to the US. He's never shown tolerance to America's enemies, as, of course, no decent patriot should !! His supposedly 'hawkish' views keep people alert to the dangers overseas opponents pose, and he well knows what those ongoing dangers mandate. In case it isn't obvious, I respect that man.

Here, for Noir's benefit, is an example of why he 'shouldn't' be heeded, why he 'shouldn't' have his pride of place in the corridors of power:

https://news.yahoo.com/bolton-says-i...cBq6MBThdvbOlW

Washington (AFP) - The Iranian oil tanker Adrian Darya 1, blacklisted by Washington, has arrived in the Syrian port of Tartus, US national security advisor John Bolton said.

"Anyone who said the Adrian Darya-1 wasn't headed to Syria is in denial," Bolton said in a tweet late Friday with a satellite image he said showed the ship anchored two nautical miles off Tartus.

"Tehran thinks it's more important to fund the murderous Assad regime than provide for its own people. We can talk, but Iran's not getting any sanctions relief until it stops lying and spreading terror!"

[Elessar]

Good. The further Bolton is from any sort of power or decision making the better.

You are such a Twit.

Have you, with your opinions, fixed the UK's problems yet?