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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Obama, leaders within the FBI and the DOJ = they all were accused and involved in wrongdoing and now being proved that they used all of the above to wrongly investigate someone, and then pin investigations on people, all part of keeping Trump out of office and then to try and remove him from office. Many people discussed it and showed the wrongdoing. Funny that you missed it then.

    Now, we have someone asking another leader to apparently investigate something? Something that Joe Biden himself was recorded stating - that he would withhold aid from Ukraine if they didn't fire a prosecutor? Something doesn't add up - and even the liberal media asked all of those same questions. Odd that too! But someone finally listens - and it's suddenly an issue. Perhaps so - if it were false, and Biden didn't admit to the wrongdoing himself... And THAT is where the bribery was.

    Face it, that's why he's got full support on this one, as everyone quickly saw it for the garbage grab that it is. The Desperate Dems just trying the same tactics over and over and over and over thinking they'll get different results. Kind of like you coming here posting endless times with gotcha! stories about Trump, only for them to end up being BS. EVERY SINGLE TIME.
    Jim this is simple. Trumps IG looked at the report and deemed it concerning and urgent. The White House ate blocking the report. Don’t be like this. This one is simple.

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    Pete keeps repeating about the IG, which I get. What we don't know though is how he came to have the report and what he knew had come before, like the following information.

    Then there is Biden on video claiming/bragging that he did just what is alleged.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-whistleblower-didnt-have-direct-knowledge-of-the-communications


    Whistleblower 'didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications' between Trump and Ukraine
    by Zachary Halaschak
    | September 21, 2019 04:04 PM



    The whistleblower who filed a complaint with the intelligence community inspector general did not have direct knowledge of the communications between President Trump and the foreign leader in question.


    The conversation was reportedly a July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. It is alleged that Trump urged Zelensky multiple times to work with his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to investigate Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden and his ties to an energy company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch. Giuliani has previously urged a top official in Ukraine to look into the ties.


    An official who has been briefed on the matter, however, told CNN that the whistleblower “didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications.” The official said that the concerns and subsequent complaint came in part from the whistleblower “learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work.”


    [ Also read: ANALYSIS: Does Schiff already know the Trump whistleblower's story?]


    Those details have reportedly played a role in the administration's determining that the complaint, lodged in August, didn’t fall under the reporting standards for intelligence whistleblower law.


    Although many details are still unclear, the communications in question reportedly involved a “promise,” and House Democrats, as well as the elder Biden, are pushing to have the complaint and a transcript of the call between Trump and Zelensky released.


    Inspector General of the Intelligence Community Michael Atkinson received the initial complaint and forwarded it to acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire, who has so far refused to pass it along to Congress.


    The root of the proposed investigation into Hunter Biden stems from his being a 2014 board member for the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings. While he was still vice president, Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees if Ukraine did not fire its top prosecutor, who was accused of corruption and was investigating the oligarch who owned Burisma Holdings. That raised concerns of a potential conflict of interest, which could be damaging to Biden’s presidential campaign.


    At the time of the prosecutor’s departure, Hunter Biden was being paid $50,000 per month for his work with the energy company. Hunter Biden left Burisma’s board earlier this year.


    Both Trump and Biden have denied any wrongdoing, with Trump describing his phone call to Zelensky as “perfectly fine" and Biden saying he has never spoken to his son about his overseas business dealings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Pete keeps repeating about the IG, which I get. What we don't know though is how he came to have the report and what he knew had come before, like the following information.

    Then there is Biden on video claiming/bragging that he did just what is alleged.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-whistleblower-didnt-have-direct-knowledge-of-the-communications
    The protocol is for the IG to review the complaint and if credible pass it to congress. He did but the WH is blocking it.

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    Haha!

    Yes, Pete! This is the one! THIS is finally the magic bullet that's going to impeach Trump!

    I suggest that you and your buddies invest in a ton of fireworks for the moonbat celebration. You know, just like Hillary did for her 2016 celebration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Haha!

    Yes, Pete! This is the one! THIS is finally the magic bullet that's going to impeach Trump!

    I suggest that you and your buddies invest in a ton of fireworks for the moonbat celebration. You know, just like Hillary did for her 2016 celebration.
    Can't wait, got my fireworks ready! Might as well join the fun since we know that THIS is finally the big one. And it better be, or I'm opening my window up here. And I'm not kidding you, don't push me, I'll scream to the skies and show you all!! And if all else fails, and I don't want to have to do so myself, but if no one listens, then I may have to wear one of those pink p&%$y hats to wear around and show people I'm no longer kidding, and I am one to be taken seriously this time.

    Let us celebrate or we'll scream!!
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Can't wait, got my fireworks ready! Might as well join the fun since we know that THIS is finally the big one. And it better be, or I'm opening my window up here. And I'm not kidding you, don't push me, I'll scream to the skies and show you all!! And if all else fails, and I don't want to have to do so myself, but if no one listens, then I may have to wear one of those pink p&%$y hats to wear around and show people I'm no longer kidding, and I am one to be taken seriously this time.

    Let us celebrate or we'll scream!!
    Dripping with appropriate sarcasm!
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Dripping with appropriate sarcasm!
    Yes, maybe a little, but if things truly don't go my way - I can always just bail for awhile and ignore things and go and claim that I'm too busy with all my clients right now.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    The protocol is for the IG to review the complaint and if credible pass it to congress. He did but the WH is blocking it.

    Who died, and made you the authority on this phony stuff? In order for there to be a CREDIBLE complaint...there must FIRST be something CREDIBLE to pass to Congress.

    The WH can't pass something that DOES NOT EXIST. Namely...the supposed, leaked, spy information of overhearing the President....DID NOT TAKE PLACE. You should verify that before you sound like PMSNBC, and the rest of the FAKE NEWS buggers who love making stuff sound so serious...."WE GOT THE SILVER BULLET NOW" BULL-CRAP.
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    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    Who died, and made you the authority on this phony stuff? In order for there to be a CREDIBLE complaint...there must FIRST be something CREDIBLE to pass to Congress.

    The WH can't pass something that DOES NOT EXIST. Namely...the supposed, leaked, spy information of overhearing the President....DID NOT TAKE PLACE. You should verify that before you sound like PMSNBC, and the rest of the FAKE NEWS buggers who love making stuff sound so serious...."WE GOT THE SILVER BULLET NOW" BULL-CRAP.
    So the IG that testified a few days ago is lying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    So the IG that testified a few days ago is lying?

    Show me where I said that?
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    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    Show me where I said that?
    Was I quoting you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    The protocol is for the IG to review the complaint and if credible pass it to congress. He did but the WH is blocking it.

    False, the protocol is for the IG to pass it along to Congress IF the DNI allows him to, there is NO protocol for going around the DNI. And in fact the law itself doesn't even specify what can or should be done if the DNI refuses to pass anything along to Congress.

    The White House is not keeping this from Congress, the DNI is.

    That being said, with how dishonest the Dems in Congress are, and with the way they attempt to weaponize EVERYTHING , I don't blame the DNI for saying "wait a minute, this is ridiculous"

    Funny that no one is listening in on phone calls of members of Congress and reporting the content to the President so that he can be a check on them.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Pete keeps repeating about the IG, which I get. What we don't know though is how he came to have the report and what he knew had come before, like the following information.

    Then there is Biden on video claiming/bragging that he did just what is alleged.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-whistleblower-didnt-have-direct-knowledge-of-the-communications
    Yep, I kinda introduced Biden's own admittance in there, but there is no interest in even noticing it from him, only the gotcha games. If he wee TRULY interested in such things, he too would have been interested in WHY Biden did what he did, bragged about it - DID it help his son? And was it worthy of even getting a yes or no answer. I believe it should, especially since an active VP made the comments.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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