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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Who cares, fuck 'em.

    First off, SO many others with nearly the exact thing, and then tons and tons and tons and tons of other great guns to choose from. So many other rifles and shotguns and tactical weapons. They don't care about facts, only ignorance and emotion, and knee jerk reactions.

    SO many other great rifles out there to take the place of one manufacturer. And someone will have a 'home version AR' within a few weeks that you can "print" out at home. LOL

    Seriously though, SO many other great weapons and so many others that are BETTER weapons. From sport to self defense to hunting... rifles, shotguns, handguns.... People have been looking for "alternatives" for a long time anyway, and there are many others. And just as scary looking!! So what will the leftist nitwits do when A) the criminals still use AR-15's anyway and/or B) Alternative weapons simply move to the forefront and suddenly scary department?

    That's why they want to start slow, and implement ways of making it look like small attempts, and then they slowly cook you like a dumb frog and then tell you they have the right to take everything from all legal gun owners. Not gonna happen.

    These ignorant idiots can't even figure out what guns actually kill more than others, and want to ban based on scariness factor.

    Exactly, two companies within 20 miles of me that build custom guns. One does only pistols and shotguns, but if anyone is looking for a truly well built custom AR15.

    https://www.wilsoncombat.com/

    I own several of their products. They aint cheap, but they are far superior to most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    This is how the dem party, anti-gun liberals/progressives, socialists are chipping away at our 2nd Amendment right.
    One chip at a time, and eventually the accumulated effects, gets what they want.
    I feel sorry for any on our side that can not see this socialistic political party for the anti-american (globalist) traitors that they so obviously are..-Tyr
    Take a couple steps back from the ledge there . . .

    Colt isn't doing any leftie bidding, it is a purely business decision made by a business that has long had a dead ear to the civilian marketplace, (across multiple product lines), to the point of ignoring it.

    Some facts first:

    1) Colt's AR's are in the upperlevel price point for a nothing special AR and they have lost significant market share. They owned the M-16 Armalite patent but farmed out manufacturing of some parts to outside corporations, (CMMG and Quality Machine / Bushmaster) when the patent ran out and Colt lost the military contract to FN, these and other manufacturers began production of their own AR pattern models -- of better quality and at a lower price point -- and never looked back.

    2) They are focusing their rifle manufacturing on their new LE6940 design featuring a "monolithic" upper receiver which has some advantages for military / LE use but only marginal interest for civilian recreational shooters, not to mention pushing civilian demand downward for their product with the even higher price point of the monolithic upper. Recreational shooters have been fed up since forever with Colt's large pin lower reciever, adding a proprietary upper receiver and integrated rail that one can't customize, seals the deal for the civilian market.

    3) Their manufacturing and assembly is 'all in' for fulfilling M4 government contracts with the monolithic upper. Announced on the same day as their withdrawal from the civilian marketplace:


    "Colt's Manufacturing Co. LLC, West Hartford, Connecticut, was awarded a $41,924,594 firm-fixed-price Foreign Military Sales (Afghanistan, Bahrain, Djibouti, Federated States of Micronesia, Hungary, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Palau, St. Vincent and Grenadines, and Tunisia) contract for production for the M4 and M4A1 carbines. One bid was solicited with one bid received. Work locations and funding will be determined with each order, with an estimated completion date of Sept. 18, 2024. U.S. Army Contracting Command, New Jersey, is the contracting activity (W15QKN-19-D-0116)."

    https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Con...ticle/1966024/


    4) Diverting contract manufacturing, assembly and QC capability to make "typical" upper receiver guns or monolithic upper guns for civilians, is not a good business decision, given the marginal market share / returns in the civilian marketplace and strict production / delivery demands for the contracts.

    5) Colt isn't foreclosing returning to the civilian AR market with either monolithic uppers or old style components; it's not like they are going to scrap the tooling and capability, they are just taking it off-line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    For quicker stopping power the 308 caliber is the one to choose, IMHO.--Tyr
    And it should be much more acceptable to the anti-gunners; since the .308 is built on the AR-10 pattern, it is 5 whole AR's less than the AR-15!

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    Quote Originally Posted by surf fishing guru View Post
    and it should be much more acceptable to the anti-gunners; since the .308 is built on the ar-10 pattern, it is 5 whole ar's less than the ar-15!

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf Fishing Guru View Post
    Take a couple steps back from the ledge there . . .

    Colt isn't doing any leftie bidding, it is a purely business decision made by a business that has long had a dead ear to the civilian marketplace, (across multiple product lines), to the point of ignoring it.

    Some facts first:

    1) Colt's AR's are in the upperlevel price point for a nothing special AR and they have lost significant market share. They owned the M-16 Armalite patent but farmed out manufacturing of some parts to outside corporations, (CMMG and Quality Machine / Bushmaster) when the patent ran out and Colt lost the military contract to FN, these and other manufacturers began production of their own AR pattern models -- of better quality and at a lower price point -- and never looked back.

    2) They are focusing their rifle manufacturing on their new LE6940 design featuring a "monolithic" upper receiver which has some advantages for military / LE use but only marginal interest for civilian recreational shooters, not to mention pushing civilian demand downward for their product with the even higher price point of the monolithic upper. Recreational shooters have been fed up since forever with Colt's large pin lower reciever, adding a proprietary upper receiver and integrated rail that one can't customize, seals the deal for the civilian market.

    3) Their manufacturing and assembly is 'all in' for fulfilling M4 government contracts with the monolithic upper. Announced on the same day as their withdrawal from the civilian marketplace:

    "Colt's Manufacturing Co. LLC, West Hartford, Connecticut, was awarded a $41,924,594 firm-fixed-price Foreign Military Sales (Afghanistan, Bahrain, Djibouti, Federated States of Micronesia, Hungary, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Palau, St. Vincent and Grenadines, and Tunisia) contract for production for the M4 and M4A1 carbines. One bid was solicited with one bid received. Work locations and funding will be determined with each order, with an estimated completion date of Sept. 18, 2024. U.S. Army Contracting Command, New Jersey, is the contracting activity (W15QKN-19-D-0116)."

    https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Con...ticle/1966024/


    4) Diverting contract manufacturing, assembly and QC capability to make "typical" upper receiver guns or monolithic upper guns for civilians, is not a good business decision, given the marginal market share / returns in the civilian marketplace and strict production / delivery demands for the contracts.

    5) Colt isn't foreclosing returning to the civilian AR market with either monolithic uppers or old style components; it's not like they are going to scrap the tooling and capability, they are just taking it off-line.

    Tyr is ALMOST as hysterical as many on the left. Not quite but dude definitely walks a tightrope.

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