US Sells Out Kurds To Turkey

[icansayit]

Everyone who is complaining about this now....formerly complained by asking "WHY SHOULD OUR TROOPS STAY THERE?"

Like everything else our President does. "Damned if he does, Damned if he doesn't."

Once again...."NEWSFLASH" Entire World Now So Happy Donald Trump Found Cure For 'AIDS', and 'CANCER". Except for the RADICAL, LEFTIST, PROGRESSIVE, LIBERAL, DEMOCRAT, SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST AMERICANS who Blame the President for WAITING SO LONG. Making the "CURES" a typical POLITICAL PLOY to win votes from the MELTING SNOWFLAKES.

[LongTermGuy]

Everyone who is complaining about this now....formerly complained by asking "WHY SHOULD OUR TROOPS STAY THERE?"

Like everything else our President does. "Damned if he does, Damned if he doesn't."

Once again...."NEWSFLASH" Entire World Now So Happy Donald Trump Found Cure For 'AIDS', and 'CANCER". Except for the RADICAL, LEFTIST, PROGRESSIVE, LIBERAL, DEMOCRAT, SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST AMERICANS who Blame the President for WAITING SO LONG. Making the "CURES" a typical POLITICAL PLOY to win votes from the MELTING SNOWFLAKES.

Amen brother.....

[Kathianne]

No, he didn't.



Those are Iranians, genius. They're a different flavor of Arab and they've been doing it since the Ayatollah seized power.

I agree with the second point on Iran, not the first. Iran and Turkey have been acting much like the enemy of my enemy for quite awhile now.

As for the first point, the issue of the Kurds and the reaction of US military and Presidential advisers, now gone, were all that stood in the way from this happening nearly a year ago:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKCN1OR0PW

[Kathianne]

@Gunny posted a tad regarding the last time, not much response. Likely the holidays and the dust up it was causing within the White House:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...ey+Syria+Kurds

[STTAB]

After doing more research into this , I realize that my initial knee jerk reaction was wrong. We're talking about 50 US soldiers being brought home. FIFTY . Fifty fucking people aren't keeping Turkey from wiping out the Kurds. I believe Trump when he said last night that we would protect the Kurds with or without our troops being in Syria.

50 soldiers isn't a deterrent.

[Abbey Marie]

Seems there's lots of hand-wringing and moaning this morning over Trump's wish to pull out of Syria. Hysterical posts about abandoning the Kurds to the meat grinder are pretty silly, IMO, and definitely premature.

I'm quite sure that there will be safeguards protecting the Kurds when we do eventually pull out. And let's be realistic here - we will have to pull out of that country at some point. We still have reach into Syria any time we want it with air assets - has everyone forgotten the strikes that mauled Syria despite the vaunted Russian antiaircraft defenses?

We have real time recon on the area and the ability to devastate anyone misbehaving, without having boots on the ground as a meat shield.

The Kurds have a large population in northern Iraq, right across the border. If I were a Kurd, I think I'd probably head that way if I were feeling a bit vulnerable - but the Iraqi Kurds are safe despite not having our soldiers acting as their meat shield - the threat of our aviation forces is good enough to keep the local savages from attacking them.

As far as the ISIS prisoners go, I say let the Turks have them with our compliments. I'm quite sure that they'll be eliminated with gusto and good riddance.

So before everyone goes too much further with hysteria, how about we wait to see what the President has planned for a withdrawal before jumping to conclusions?

The voice of calmness and reason, as usual.

[pete311]

After doing more research into this , I realize that my initial knee jerk reaction was wrong. We're talking about 50 US soldiers being brought home. FIFTY . Fifty fucking people aren't keeping Turkey from wiping out the Kurds. I believe Trump when he said last night that we would protect the Kurds with or without our troops being in Syria.

50 soldiers isn't a deterrent.

um sure it is, kill 50 US soldiers and we go to war with Turkey, no? btw, I can't find a source for how many we have there. What is yours?

[Abbey Marie]

After doing more research into this , I realize that my initial knee jerk reaction was wrong. We're talking about 50 US soldiers being brought home. FIFTY . Fifty fucking people aren't keeping Turkey from wiping out the Kurds. I believe Trump when he said last night that we would protect the Kurds with or without our troops being in Syria.

50 soldiers isn't a deterrent.

Whether or not this is exactly right, we all need to remember that the msm wants to whip up anti- Trump frenzy every day. I hope it is true.

[STTAB]

um sure it is, kill 50 US soldiers and we go to war with Turkey, no? btw, I can't find a source for how many we have there. What is yours?

Pete, if 50 fucking soldiers is a deterrent then why do we have thousands in South Korea, should only need 50 there......

[Kathianne]

Pete, if 50 fucking soldiers is a deterrent then why do we have thousands in South Korea, should only need 50 there......

Personally I think we should take the 50k out of South Korea, now there's an area that we've been in forever and it certainly seems that South and North want to be one and join the Chinazis. Let them.

South and North are eroding our really important relationship with Japan. Build that up, add Taiwan, Hong Kong, Vietnam.

[Abbey Marie]

Sometimes the news and threads like this make me feel like I’m in the middle of the game Diplomacy, but none none of the alliances are working.

[Kathianne]

Sometimes the news and threads like this make me feel like I’m in the middle of the game Diplomacy, but none none of the alliances are working.

While I'm so furious with the Democrats behavior I'd nearly vote for President Trump to spite them, his foreign policy, unlike his speeches in foreign locations, leaves me cold. I think he's a disaster on the foreign/diplomatic fronts.

[jimnyc]

I had read 25 last night. Perhaps 50 I read here now. Makes no difference. If that's all that it was that was removed - then I change my stance. 50 soldiers are not going to magically defend an entire area, and defend the entire kurds area. We can do more than that, much more, from various air support. Also in many other ways. But no, removing such a small amount will not be the cause of some widespread slaughter of people. I still disagree with leaving without a plan - but I'm not on the inside. Perhaps with that small of an amount, there is a plan.

But the way I see this has changed dramatically. I had visions of troop withdrawals by thousands, quickly, and then a final pullout. NOT the case apparently, just a few truckloads.


50 soldiers - https://nypost.com/2019/10/08/trump-...-out-of-syria/

[FakeNewsSux]

While I'm so furious with the Democrats behavior I'd nearly vote for President Trump to spite them, his foreign policy, unlike his speeches in foreign locations, leaves me cold. I think he's a disaster on the foreign/diplomatic fronts.

Oh, I don't know, I kind of like that he moved our Embassy to Jerusalem and his announcement on the Golan Heights, finally chose to confront China on a broad range of economic and trade relations, negotiated the USMCA, forced Mexico to halt the caravans coming from Central America, destroying ISIS, getting our European Allies to finally start paying their agreed upon contributions to NATO and finally chose to address the North Korean situation after years of neglect.

[Kathianne]

Oh, I don't know, I kind of like that he moved our Embassy to Jerusalem and his announcement on the Golan Heights, finally chose to confront China on a broad range of economic and trade relations, negotiated the USMCA, forced Mexico to halt the caravans coming from Central America, destroying ISIS, getting our European Allies to finally start paying their agreed upon contributions to NATO and finally chose to address the North Korean situation after years of neglect.

Yeah, his policies with Chinazi has been exemplary.