Queen Elizabeth Tells Parliament That Going Thru With BREXIT Is Her “Priority”

[Drummond]

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

.. and then some !!!

[Drummond]

Hope you had a nice trip, glad you're back!

I'm actually 'not'. Still travelling ... I'm typing this in an Internet Cafe in north London.

I'll be returning home to Wales in around 24 hours .. and can spend more time here once that's done.

[Noir]

Truly amazing.

What came over them ???

They got confirmation from the EU of the extension date, which removed the possibility of a no deal, allowing them to commit to an election without fear of the Benn act being undermined.

[Drummond]

There's been a development that might be of interest.

Nigel Farage is head of our 'Brexit Party' (it exists for just that one purpose). Nigel has been pushing for Brexit for a great many years, first as head of UKIP, now head of the far newer Brexit Party.

Well ... he's a friend of Donald Trump. Nigel also has a broadcasting slot on LBC, a London-based radio station ... it broadcasts news and phone-in programmes. Trump phoned the station last night, and the British people heard a long conversation between the two.

Trump has caused a stir. He's expressed support for Boris Johnson, BUT, has also said that the Brexit deal Boris is standing by is one where the US won't be able to give us the level of future trade we were hoping for and expecting.

This, of course, puts a dent in Boris's election campaign. You'd naturally expect Boris to say that the UK will have a bright trading future, once Brexit is 'done 'n' dusted'. With Trump intervening as he has, it has to follow that Boris's job will be made harder.

Corbyn might have felt like celebrating ... were it not for Trump's condemnation of him in the same conversation ....

We'll have to see how this plays out. When Obama intervened in another of our elections, when he said that if people voted for Brexit, the UK would be put at the back of the trading queue with the US .. it played very badly. Some people who thought highly of Obama before, had to reconsider their viewpoint out of it. Now, with Trump's intervention on LBC ... we may see a repeat of the voter resentment over what will be seen as unwelcome interfering arrogance.

Needless to say, the BBC is currently concentrating on this in their news broadcasts. And Corbyn is seeking to capitalise on it all.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50258139

The government has defended the UK's Brexit deal with the EU, following criticism from the US president.

Donald Trump said the US "can't make a trade deal with the UK" under Boris Johnson's EU withdrawal agreement.

But Housing Secretary Robert Jenrick said the PM's plan was a "good deal" that allows the UK to "strike free trade deals around the world".

Other comments made by Mr Trump led Labour to accuse him of trying to "interfere" in the election.

Speaking to LBC, the president said Mr Corbyn would be "so bad" as prime minister and that Mr Johnson was "the exact right guy for the times".

Mr Corbyn accused him of "trying to interfere" in the UK general election to boost "his friend Boris Johnson".

[Drummond]

They got confirmation from the EU of the extension date, which removed the possibility of a no deal, allowing them to commit to an election without fear of the Benn act being undermined.

So, Noir (I'll probably see your reply late tomorrow. BTW).

I'm looking forward to the British electorate telling Labour candidates, in no uncertain terms, that DEMOCRATIC ACCOUNTABILITY should mean something !! It shouldn't be for Labour to decide that they will stall progress towards Brexit until or unless it happens to meet THEIR terms for it !!

The terms they've insisted upon were not voted for by the British people ... NOBODY voted for a specific version of Brexit being sacrosanct over all others. Any and all stalling there's been, has been because Labour has twisted Brexit into being a creature of its own shaping and preference.

Will Corbyn listen to the electorate in the coming weeks ?

Of course not.

Labour doesn't listen. It DICTATES.

Sieg Heil .....

[Gunny]

So, Noir (I'll probably see your reply late tomorrow. BTW).

I'm looking forward to the British electorate telling Labour candidates, in no uncertain terms, that DEMOCRATIC ACCOUNTABILITY should mean something !! It shouldn't be for Labour to decide that they will stall progress towards Brexit until or unless it happens to meet THEIR terms for it !!

The terms they've insisted upon were not voted for by the British people ... NOBODY voted for a specific version of Brexit being sacrosanct over all others. Any and all stalling there's been, has been because Labour has twisted Brexit into being a creature of its own shaping and preference.

Will Corbyn listen to the electorate in the coming weeks ?

Of course not.

Labour doesn't listen. It DICTATES.

Sieg Heil .....

That's the way the Democrats here are playing the game. They know what's best for the people and what the people "really want"

[Drummond]

They got confirmation from the EU of the extension date, which removed the possibility of a no deal, allowing them to commit to an election without fear of the Benn act being undermined.

Ok, my travels are over, I'm back home using my own computer ... so, I've more time to consider what I read here.

Noir .. I'm well aware that Corbyn said he'd not agree to an election until 'the possibility of no deal was off the table'. But I'm failing to see how it is that he's sure a no deal Brexit is not still a possibility.

Scenarios come to mind, Noir.

For example: what if Farage had succeeded in his ploy ? He offered Boris a pact, didn't he ? In return for Boris agreeing to rethink the Brexit approach, so that instead of the current deal going through, Nigel Farage wanted a cleaner and altogether more complete break with the EU .. well, didn't he ? In return, he was offering not to contest seats where to do so would give Labour a greater chance of success through an otherwise splitting of votes ranged against Labour election candidates.

Boris didn't go for it. But, he could have. The possibility existed.

We also don't know that the latest extension given to us won't be the last we get (remember Macron's power of veto, for example, or any one country's power of veto). YES, Boris wanted a commitment that the 31st January deadline would be the last the EU would offer, and yes, they refused to confirm it would be. But, this falls short of a promise that they'll definitely grant more, if we ask for them !

Consider that the election we're going to have doesn't have a certain outcome, and therefore, we don't know where we will stand at the end of it. Labour, God forbid (!!!) could actually win it !! What happens then ... will we have to undergo a second Referendum, which will take time to arrange, and what if its outcome is also a game changer (... and do we know for certain what will be offered in one .. what its wording will be)? We may find that the time a Referendum takes will ITSELF require another extension, which again, the EU has not GUARANTEED to give us.

Say that the Conservatives win outright, and we're back to the current status quo. Labour may tie up the Brexit process for yet longer, dreaming up amendments to the legislation, which are radical enough to force a renegotiation (.. again !!). What if the EU refuses that, and so believes that no further extensions should be granted ?

So you see, Noir, Corbyn can't KNOW that 'no deal' is off the table as an eventual outcome.

No.

Corbyn decided to agree an election, because he knew how much more of a ludicrous farce he'd be creating if he continued to hold out against one, that earning him a public backlash. It's that simple.

[Kathianne]

@Drummond

Interesting?

https://ombreolivier.liberty.me/gene...k-WsRJcNuSLvOM