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    After the stampede:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I agree about cleaning house, thought that was all about the President?

    In any case, I for one, am not looking for the US to get involved in any sense other than supporting democracy and using economics, (which we supposedly are doing already for other reasons), to apply some pressure for human rights.
    I assume you are referring to "draining the swamp"? WHO believed THAT, or that the President has the power to do that? He can't touch elected officials in Congress himself. I said the first time I heard it all he was going to do is piss off a bunch of lifers clinging to their government jobs where they don't have to work and can't be fired for it. And what has the President accomplished? Just what I said.

    When all this crap is said and done, some small fry will be sacrificed to "appease the mob". Nothing's going to change. All he's done is shine a flashlight on the cockroaches in the corner and they've held up his Administration for 3 years as a result.

    The Republican bureaucrats that won't support him could care less about his ideals, agenda or anything else other than he's shining a light on them too.

    The People have to clean house or it won't be done and we'll just keep on keepin' on heading over the cliff and into the abyss.

    But if anyone wants to protest crap to our elected officials so they hear our voices, how about protesting against something that is relevant to US? I have no problem with bitching about what's going on in Hong Kong. Make it paragraph 2.

    We do not need to be involved in Hong Kong even to the point of giving aid to dissident students. All that's going to do is tick off China and we'll end up with a bunch of political refugees, as usual.
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    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...SEpgLx24xIlvOM

    WASHINGTON: US lawmakers on Wednesday (Nov 20) overwhelmingly approved legislation that supports human rights and democracy in Hong Kong and also backs the territory's anti-China protesters, sending the measure opposed by Beijing to President Donald Trump.


    The Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act passed the House of Representatives by 417 to 1, one day after the Senate unanimously passed the measure, provoking an outcry from Beijing.


    The bill requires the US president to annually review the favorable trade status that Washington grants to Hong Kong, and threatens to revoke the coveted status that the semi-autonomous Chinese territory enjoys with the United States if its freedoms are quashed.


    The measure now heads to Trump. He has not decisively said whether he will sign it, although the passage by a strong veto-proof majority may affect his calculus on the bill.


    The House, by 417 votes to 0, also approved Senate-cleared legislation that would ban sales of tear gas, rubber bullets and other equipment used by Hong Kong security forces.


    The bills set up a potential conflict between the two economic superpowers that could jeopardize a major trade deal which has been under negotiation for months.


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    Beijing expressed anger earlier on Wednesday after the Senate's unanimous vote, warning of "strong countermeasures" if the bill becomes law, and summoning acting US charge d'affaires William Klein to lodge a protest.


    Michael McCaul, top Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, denounced China's "authoritarian brutality" on display in Hong Kong as he spoke directly to residents of the territory from the House floor.


    "America stands with you and America will always support you," McCaul said.


    The votes marked an unusually strong show of bipartisanship in divided Washington.


    Republican Senator Marco Rubio, a sponsor of the Senate bill, applauded Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for swiftly bringing it to a vote in her chamber.


    "As the Chinese Communist Party and Hong Kong government officials continue to violate the basic rights of the Hong Kong people and erode Hong Kong's autonomy, the United States must make clear that we continue to stand with Hong Kongers fighting for their long-cherished freedoms," Rubio said.


    The rights bill passed as dozens of pro-democracy protesters stood firm inside a besieged Hong Kong university, where a four-day standoff against police has caught the world's attention.


    The city has suffered nearly six months of increasingly savage anti-China protests and unrest that began over a now-shelved bill to allow extraditions to China, which revived fears that Beijing was slicing into the city's freedoms.




    Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...trump-12112894


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    Even though I think the legislation itself is pointless, I am amazed that it passed almost unanimously in both chambers. Trump will veto it (j/k)

    Kind of reinforces what I posted previously. People who are acting like grade school children presuming to tell others how to act
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    https://thestandnews.com/politics/th...6X5vTqRdTt40UI

    "Humans of Hong Kong" is a brand new column highlighting the English version of feature stories and interviews by Stand News.
    Interesting read if you haven't been following the past few days in Hong Kong.


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    A brief synopsis of how it began and continues:

    Tommy Walker

    September 4 ·

    The Hong Kong protests in approximately 200 words:

    The Hong Kong protests began in June against the proposal for a controversial bill that would allow extradition to mainland China.

    Hong Kong enjoys freedoms not seen in mainland China under the 'One Country, Two Systems' agreement, with critics fearing the bill would undermine Hong Kong's judicial independence.

    In July, after consistent protests, Chief Executive Carrie Lam stated the bill was 'dead' but refused to officially withdraw it. Demonstrations continued including demands for full democracy, police inquiries, and universal suffrage, asking for five demands to be met.

    Clashes have continued for 23 consecutive weeks between protesters and police, with triad gangs and pro-Beijing proxies also getting involved. Teargas, water cannons, rubber bullets, Molotov's and firearms have all been used leaving Hong Kong in a situation similar to an urban-guerilla war.

    On the 4th of September, Carrie Lam announced the extradition bill is to be withdrawn officially.

    In an effort to curb the violence, on October 5th the Emergency Regulations Ordinance was invoked, and the first law was banning the use of masks.

    The extradition bill that triggered the protests, was officially withdrawn on the 23rd of October.
    Demonstrations continue, with protesters demanding all of the five demands are to be met.




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    Here's why so few understand what has been happening by China to Hong Kong. Just like domestic news, the foreign news is being manipulated:

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/19/r...j86FZUA9-mZEpk


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    That’s not all ‘students!”


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    What is with China? Outdoing the cultural revolution for deaths?

    https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2...tion-steroids/


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    Claudia Rosett on Hong Kong, after observing for over 30 years:
    https://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/ho...s-finest-hour/


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    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/349492/

    NOVEMBER 26, 2019


    THE PEOPLE’S GOVERNMENT WILL LISTEN TO ANYTHING BUT THE PEOPLE’S VOICE: China issues stern response to landslide victory of Hong Kong pro-democracy forces.
    Foreign Minister Wang Yi said that no matter how the situation in Hong Kong changes, the semiautonomous region is part of China.
    “Any attempt to disrupt Hong Kong and damage [its] stability and prosperity will not succeed,” he told reporters in Japan, where he was attending a G-20 foreign ministers meeting.
    I think that’s actually the message Hong Kong voters sent to Beijing.

    Posted by Stephen Green at 10:35 am


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    President Trump signed off on the Hong Kong bill. I really thought he was just going to let it go with pocket veto, but he did step up. Kudos!


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    Spreading to the mainland? Worst Chinese nightmare:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...guangdong.html


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