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    Default Hong Kong Police Chief Promises Flexibility Ahead Of Rally

    December 7, 2019
    By Cate Cadell and Martin Pollard
    BEIJING/HONG KONG (Reuters) – Hong Kong’s new police commissioner said on Saturday his force would take a flexible approach to pro-democracy demonstrations as the city gears up for a rally on Sunday that is expected to draw a huge crowd.
    Chris Tang was appointed last month upon his predecessor’s retirement and amid six months of sometimes violent anti-government protests in Chinese-ruled Hong Kong. He was speaking in Beijing on a “courtesy visit” during which he briefed top officials in charge of public security, legal and Hong Kong affairs.

    “We will use both the hard and soft approach. We will be stringent on illegal violent actions such as throwing of petrol bombs, acid,” Tang told reporters in Beijing.
    “For other issues, if possible, we will adopt a more flexible approach.”
    Police have given a rare green light to the demonstration planned for Sunday by the Civil Human Rights Front (CHRF) group, which organized largely peaceful million-strong marches in the summer.
    The march will gauge support for the pro-democracy movement following its overwhelming victory in local elections late last month. Police said they would intervene “immediately” if it turned violent.
    Tang said he hoped Sunday’s protest would be peaceful.
    What started as demonstrations against a now-withdrawn bill allowing extradition to mainland China has morphed into calls for greater democratic freedoms and sometimes violent protests.
    The international financial hub has enjoyed relative calm in the weeks since the elections.
    Protesters have set out five demands, including universal suffrage and an investigation into alleged police brutality.
    Beijing has condemned the unrest and blamed foreign governments, including the United States and former colonial power Britain of interfering in the country’s internal affairs.
    Tara Joseph, President of the American Chamber of Commerce in Hong Kong, told Reuters on Saturday that she had been denied entry to the neighboring Chinese-ruled territory of Macau.
    Joseph, a U.S. citizen, said she was detained by immigration authorities for around two hours as she made her way to the to the former Portuguese colony for the AmCham Macau Ball. Authorities did not give a reason for refusing her entry, she added.
    FLYING FLAGS
    Earlier on Saturday, police commissioner Tang observed a flag-raising ceremony in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square, according to video footage carried by Hong Kong broadcaster Cable TV.
    “I am very excited to see the country’s flag fly and to feel the country’s greatness,” he told reporters. “I would like to thank … President Xi Jinping (for his) unwavering support of the Hong Kong police strictly enforcing the law.”
    In Hong Kong, several hundred pro-Beijing supporters waved Chinese flags and played mainland hymns to show support for the government and condemn violence.
    “We saw all the damages, all the wreckages, all the barricades on the roads, created by those yellow (pro-democracy) groups, the rioters, and we just couldn’t stand it anymore,” said Virginia Cheung, 54, a retired civil servant.
    Xu Enlai, a 72-year old retired construction worker who moved to Hong Kong from the mainland 45 years ago, also denounced violence.
    “I think Hong Kong police are doing very well … The police are safeguarding our society here,” he said.
    (Additional reporting by Nanling Fang in Beijing and Anne Marie Roantree in HONG KONG; Writing by Noah Sin in Hong Kong; Editing by Catherine Evans)
    https://www.oann.com/hong-kong-polic...-commissioner/

    Takes a single match to light a forest on fire. The troublemakers are going to be what they are. I don't understand people like that and never will.

    At any rate, we shall see.
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    The troublemakers have been the police. Even the AP has acknowledged that after the issues leading up to the elections.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    The troublemakers have been the police. Even the AP has acknowledged that after the issues leading up to the elections.
    Guess we just aren't going to see eye to eye on this one. Protesters are the troublemakers by definition. Police restore order. In an authoritarian state, they are heavy handed. Like here. Only they're heavy-handed here when they're a the wrong house.

    I've been to Hong Kong. I also lived here during the 60s and 70s. I'm just not buying the evil state is roughing up the Polly Purebread protesters for no reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Guess we just aren't going to see eye to eye on this one. Protesters are the troublemakers by definition. Police restore order. In an authoritarian state, they are heavy handed. Like here. Only they're heavy-handed here when they're a the wrong house.

    I've been to Hong Kong. I also lived here during the 60s and 70s. I'm just not buying the evil state is roughing up the Polly Purebread protesters for no reason.
    Normally I would agree that having lived there makes a difference, though considering your age then and the changes over that many years? Not this time.

    I’ve watched and read what’s been happening since June, including talking with folks there now. The police were held in very high regard thru July. No more. First they’ve been infiltrated by cop. Second they’ve become brutal, shooting two captives point blank; using water cannons laced with acid; they’ve been caught on tape raping and let off with reprimand.

    Over the the past two months many countries, including the United States have recognized there is a problem with China. It’s beyond Hong Kong, but it includes HK.
    Last edited by Kathianne; 12-08-2019 at 01:01 AM.


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    https://www.ricemedia.co/current-aff...MaKumyvZgBXZsQ

    I Interviewed a Man From Beijing Who Was At the Frontlines of the Hong Kong Protests

    All images by Tommy Walker. Before June 2019, the scenes on the streets of Hong Kong couldn’t have been more different. An international hub for visitors all over the world and a local population of over 7 million, Hong Kong was its typical self, a high-energy city packed with people. From the worn streets and creaking buildings of Kowloon to the impressive skyscrapers on Hong Kong Island, the super-city showed a story of two worlds.

    That world, day after day, included millions of Mainland Chinese visitors filling up the sidewalks. The influx of tourists from Mainland China has been a regular occurrence since the handover in ’97, but before June, things were easier. In 2018, the new bullet train opened from Beijing to Austin Station, Kowloon, that takes only 7 hours to arrive. This was coupled with the unveiling of the controversial Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau Bridge—55km long and $18 billion in costs—providing visitors with easier access than ever to the western-influenced bright lights of Hong Kong.

    Today, six months after the well-publicised unrest in Hong Kong, visitors from the mainland have dropped dramatically. In October 2019 alone, there was a 45.9% decrease from the year prior. The streets of Hong Kong have been replaced with public outcries, graffiti freedom slogans, and damage to roads and buildings. Mainlanders are turning away from Hong Kong not only for fear for their safety, but because it’s no longer an attractive destination for business and leisure. Mainland Chinese stores have been purposely attacked whilst some quarters of the city show stark remnants from intense demonstrations.

    Yet, one man from the mainland decided to visit Hong Kong despite the current social climate. Christopher from Beijing was a curious tourist on a long weekend trip. Finding a Mainland Chinese citizen at the frontline of a protest was a rarity.

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