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    Default So This Is What Drummond Has Been Up To

    Writing about the election and polling!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile..../idUSKBN1YG001


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Writing about the election and polling!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile..../idUSKBN1YG001
    You seem to be accusing me of some hard work ... how dare you !!!

    I have been absent these past few days ... travelling again. This continues until the end of the week (I just returned v briefly home, to vote today).

    Anyway ... maybe this'll be of interest .. ? Leo McKinstry, always an excellent columnist for the Express, contributed this article today. A brief excerpt below:-

    https://www.express.co.uk/comment/co...our-Party-vote

    The moment of destiny has arrived. Not since the end of the Second World War has there been a more important General Election than this one. At stake is the soul of our nation. The very future of our *identity, democracy, economy and security will be decided by voters today.

    Realistically there are only two possible outcomes: either a Conservative majority, or a hung Parliament that would in practice send Jeremy Corbyn and his Marxist cabal into Downing Street. The former result would be a relief, the latter a calamity. If Boris Johnson’s Conservatives win, then freedom and prosperity beckon, accelerated by the end of the Brexit stalemate that has paralysed our political system for too long. But if Corbyn emerges as Prime Minister tomorrow, then Britain will be dragged into a new Dark Age of chaos and decline, fuelled by extremist dogma.

    The return of a Tory Government would mean that the country can once more come together, with our withdrawal from Europe finally settled. But the advent of a far-Left Labour Government, built on class war and the politics of envy, will drastically widen divisions in our society.

    If Johnson stays in office, then Britain will remain an advanced, Western market-led democracy, where taxes are kept down, enterprise is encouraged, sovereignty is restored, British values are cherished and the United Kingdom maintained.

    But a Corbyn premiership, driven by the alien creed of radical socialism, will herald the mass confiscation of wealth, the break‑up of the union, the relentless *expansion of state control and the ruination of our public finances.

    Tragically, this nightmare on Downing Street is a real possibility ....
    McKinstry doesn't exaggerate. Corbyn may well be the most extremist Labour leader the UK has ever seen. He MUST not be elected to power.

    God help us if he is.
    Last edited by Drummond; 12-12-2019 at 11:19 AM.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    You seem to be accusing me of some hard work ... how dare you !!!

    I have been absent these past few days ... travelling again. This continues until the end of the week (I just returned v briefly home, to vote today).

    Anyway ... maybe this'll be of interest .. ? Leo McKinstry, always an excellent columnist for the Express, contributed this article today. A brief excerpt below:-

    https://www.express.co.uk/comment/co...our-Party-vote



    McKinstry doesn't exaggerate. Corbyn may well be the most extremist Labour leader the UK has ever seen. He MUST not be elected to power.

    God help us if he is.
    Enjoy your travels! You’ve been missed!


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    Let's hope Drummond's fear of polling does not come into play with exit polls, which are usually pretty good:

    https://hotair.com/archives/allahpun...e-brexit-line/

    Wowww: UK Exit Poll Predicts Conservative Landslide With Brexit On The Line
    ALLAHPUNDITPosted at 5:23 pm on December 12, 2019

    A massive victory for the Tories and Brexit if it’s accurate, and almost certainly the end of the Corbyn era for Labour. Aces all around.


    To put this in perspective, the Conservatives won 317 seats in the last election in 2017. They need 326 for a majority. At the moment they have 298 seats, with Labour second at 242, which is why they’re holding an election: Parliament’s deadlocked over Brexit, with neither side able to muster the votes it needs to pass it or scrap it.

    Unless there’s been a massive — massive — error in the exit polling, that’s about to change dramatically.

    Seth Mandel

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    3:01 PM - Dec 12, 2019

    In an era when all Anglo-American elections seem to be close-run things, with neither side able to durably and decisively defeat the other, that number is a legit shocker. It’d be the biggest Parliamentary majority since 1987 if the exit poll is dead on. And the UK would almost certainly leave the EU as scheduled, by January 31.


    Could the exit poll be wrong? Sure, but…

    Nate Cohn

    @Nate_Cohn
    How wrong would the exit poll need to be for conservatives to fall short of a majority?
    Well, it would need to be the worst result since the first BBC exit poll
    And fwiw they've been doing quite well recently




    3:06 PM - Dec 12, 2019

    …apart from the crazy 61-seat miss in 1974, no exit poll has missed so badly that the Tories would be denied a majority tonight if this new exit poll misses just as badly. That is, even if it’s as far off as the 1987 poll was, missing by 38 seats, the Conservatives would still have a governing majority of 330.

    A genuine political earthquake in the Anglosphere is shaping up. Stand by for updates.


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    Looks like a blowout for Johnson:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...s-the-21086946


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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...tories-labour/

    Boris Johnson is on course for an historic landslide victory in the 2019 general election after an exit poll predicted an 86-seat Conservative majority


    The Tories are predicted to win 368 seats – 50 up on 2017 – in their best result since 1987.


    On a catastrophic night for Labour, Jeremy Corbyn’s party was predicted to end the day with just 191 seats, down 71 on the last election in their worst result since 1935.


    If the prediction proves to be correct, it will mean the Prime Minister can forge ahead with his plan to get Britain out of the European Union by Jan 31, with a vote on his deal possible before Christmas.


    It would also mean Mr Corbyn is almost certain to announce his resignation as Labour leader today, with John McDonnell reportedly lined up as a caretaker replacement.


    Mr Corbyn has now cemented his place as the least popular and least successful Labour leader in modern history, far outstripping Michael Foot’s disastrous performance in 1983. Labour was likely to be wiped out in many of its former heartlands as the Tories broke through the “red wall” in the Midlands and the North.


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    UPDATED 12:52 PM PT — Friday, December 13, 2019


    President Trump congratulated British Prime Minister Boris Johnson on winning the country’s snap general election. This comes as far-left ideas suffered their biggest defeat in years in the U.K, paving way for a clean Brexit deal and better British-American ties.
    One America’s Kristian Rouz has more.


    This is great. Now we can see what they're going to do with the victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    You seem to be accusing me of some hard work ... how dare you !!!

    I have been absent these past few days ... travelling again. This continues until the end of the week (I just returned v briefly home, to vote today).

    Anyway ... maybe this'll be of interest .. ? Leo McKinstry, always an excellent columnist for the Express, contributed this article today. A brief excerpt below:-

    https://www.express.co.uk/comment/co...our-Party-vote



    McKinstry doesn't exaggerate. Corbyn may well be the most extremist Labour leader the UK has ever seen. He MUST not be elected to power.

    God help us if he is.
    Hope this helps all of you regain your honorable, Jolly Good Lives again.
    A better reason for all of you to have a "HAPPIER NEW YEAR" too!
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
    Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me:

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    What *I* would lie to see is a conservative government elected for a specific purpose to deliver. Unlike Republicans in the US Congress. Ours talks a good game but hasn't delivered more than anemically since President Reagan.

    And yeah, I'm dreaming vicariously through Brit conservatives right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    In case you don't know this already: the Daily Mirror is rabidly anti-Conservative. Their front page headline on 13th December, addressing what was then known about his electoral victory, was:

    'NIGHTMARE BEFORE XMAS'

    If you're looking for any measure of balanced reporting, you'll not get it from the Daily Mirror.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    Hope this helps all of you regain your honorable, Jolly Good Lives again.
    A better reason for all of you to have a "HAPPIER NEW YEAR" too!
    The British people have had a very lucky escape. We'd have gone down the political pan as a viable social and political entity had Corbyn won. All sorts of indicators pointed to it ... his massive public expenditure plans, way more than could've been managed without big IMF assistance and swingeing tax rises; wholesale seizure of companies to take them under State control; Corbyn's potential as a security risk, thanks to his friendly associations with the IRA and Hamas; his declared refusal to EVER use our nuclear deterrent under ANY circumstances; his support for the early release of convicted terrorists (the recent London Bridge terrorist was released on licence thanks to a Labour Party law passed in 2008, one that Corbyn voted for at the time) ... etc ....etc.

    Of course, his stalling of Brexit, reducing Parliament itself to a dysfunctional laughing-stock in defiance of democratic mandate ... this itself says much.

    Instead of his taking power, we have Boris at the helm, and his intention on Brexit has long since been clear. He, unlike Corbyn, RESPECTS the 2016 Referendum, and is doing his damndest to bring its outcome about.

    Thanks to his new majority of EIGHTY ... he can now laugh at Corbyn's future attempts at vandalism.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    This whole thing has restored my faith in the UK citizens.

    Wonderful bit of work. Congratulations, Drummond!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    This whole thing has restored my faith in the UK citizens.

    Wonderful bit of work. Congratulations, Drummond!
    Not just the Brits ... gives us a bit of hope as well. And I'm not talking about Trump winning reelection. We need Congress back. THAT is what I'm hoping for. Johnson didn't just win. He gained a majority to carry out his agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post


    This is great. Now we can see what they're going to do with the victory.
    Victories this decisive go back to the mammoth landslide-days of Margaret Thatcher. We've not seen their like since she left Office ... until now !

    The Labour Party's defeat has been historically bad.

    Margaret won for the Conservatives in 1979 with a landslide.

    Michael Foot, the then-Labour leader, opposed her in the 1983 election. He lost very badly .. thanks to his offering at the time of a Left wing programme were he to be elected. His Left wing manifesto was dubbed at the time 'the longest suicide note in history'.

    Margaret won another landslide in 1983, and again in 1987. Labour was firmly marginalised in politics at that time, viewed as an extremist irrelevance.

    CORBYN'S DEFEAT REDUCES LABOUR'S MP PRESENCE IN THE COMMONS TO LOWER LEVELS THAN MICHAEL FOOT HAD. Indeed, Labour is more powerless now than at any time since the mid-1930's.

    YET ... Corbyn has yet to admit any personal responsibility for his Party's defeat !! More ... he isn't taking the usual route of quitting as Labour leader, allowing a caretaker Leader to take his place until a replacement is elected. He's vowed to continue on until the elected leader is in place.

    Corbyn's tainted goods, for all sorts of reasons .. his extremist agenda, his past friendships with terrorists, his wish to go in for massive Nationalisation programs to attain State-run control for all the basics for life, all that. His is the long-failed Socialism we suffered in the 1960's and 1970's. At the time, it nearly ruined us.

    But Corbyn doesn't care about lessons from history. He'll never learn. His staying Leader is evidence of that.

    Power is everything to the likes of him.

    No, we've had a lucky escape. For everyone's sake, the sooner Corbyn is consigned to political oblivion, the better.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Victories this decisive go back to the mammoth landslide-days of Margaret Thatcher. We've not seen their like since she left Office ... until now !

    The Labour Party's defeat has been historically bad.

    Margaret won for the Conservatives in 1979 with a landslide.

    Michael Foot, the then-Labour leader, opposed her in the 1983 election. He lost very badly .. thanks to his offering at the time of a Left wing programme were he to be elected. His Left wing manifesto was dubbed at the time 'the longest suicide note in history'.

    Margaret won another landslide in 1983, and again in 1987. Labour was firmly marginalised in politics at that time, viewed as an extremist irrelevance.

    CORBYN'S DEFEAT REDUCES LABOUR'S MP PRESENCE IN THE COMMONS TO LOWER LEVELS THAN MICHAEL FOOT HAD. Indeed, Labour is more powerless now than at any time since the mid-1930's.

    YET ... Corbyn has yet to admit any personal responsibility for his Party's defeat !! More ... he isn't taking the usual route of quitting as Labour leader, allowing a caretaker Leader to take his place until a replacement is elected. He's vowed to continue on until the elected leader is in place.

    Corbyn's tainted goods, for all sorts of reasons .. his extremist agenda, his past friendships with terrorists, his wish to go in for massive Nationalisation programs to attain State-run control for all the basics for life, all that. His is the long-failed Socialism we suffered in the 1960's and 1970's. At the time, it nearly ruined us.

    But Corbyn doesn't care about lessons from history. He'll never learn. His staying Leader is evidence of that.

    Power is everything to the likes of him.

    No, we've had a lucky escape. For everyone's sake, the sooner Corbyn is consigned to political oblivion, the better.
    It IS very arrogant of him to not step down as I noted the defeated leader of the conservative party in one of the Scottish districts (?) did.

    But isn't that what the left is all about? Not accepting responsibility in defeat. Not facing the fact the people don't want them. Must be something wrong with the people OR "they just don't understand"

    So he's going to remain in charge of ...
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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