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    Default President Trump Restores First Amendment Protected ‘Right To Pray’ In Public Schools

    Fantastic! Folks that don't want to, then don't. But I'm growing tired of folks demanding it stop when they don't have anything to do with it and don't have to at all.

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    President Trump Restores First Amendment Protected ‘Right To Pray’ In Public Schools

    President Trump ordered the removal of Obama-era discriminatory federal regulations that prohibited students and teachers from praying in public schools.

    This action safeguards the First Amendment rights of students and teachers to practice their faith.



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    Bottom line is that kids always have been able to pray in school. What they are not allowed to do is have others pressured. I think more to the point of rights are kids that voluntarily wish to pray together for sporting events or the like. No one is being coerced, but peer pressure might come into play.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Fantastic! Folks that don't want to, then don't. But I'm growing tired of folks demanding it stop when they don't have anything to do with it and don't have to at all.

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    President Trump Restores First Amendment Protected ‘Right To Pray’ In Public Schools

    President Trump ordered the removal of Obama-era discriminatory federal regulations that prohibited students and teachers from praying in public schools.

    This action safeguards the First Amendment rights of students and teachers to practice their faith.



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    ""President Trump ordered the removal of Obama-era discriminatory federal regulations that prohibited students and teachers from praying in public schools.""
    obama era-- say no more.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Fantastic! Folks that don't want to, then don't. But I'm growing tired of folks demanding it stop when they don't have anything to do with it and don't have to at all.

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    President Trump Restores First Amendment Protected ‘Right To Pray’ In Public Schools

    President Trump ordered the removal of Obama-era discriminatory federal regulations that prohibited students and teachers from praying in public schools.

    This action safeguards the First Amendment rights of students and teachers to practice their faith.



    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ublic-schools/
    Completely agree with your comment.
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    Yep , wonderful news


    Until Muslim students start demanding their right to pray to Allah twice during each school day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    Yep , wonderful news


    Until Muslim students start demanding their right to pray to Allah twice during each school day.
    Valid point. But I'm okay with telling them no
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Valid point. But I'm okay with telling them no

    Gunny telling Christians they can pray in school but telling Muslims that they can not is a blatant violation of the Muslims first amendment rights, not to mention their 14th Amendment rights.

    Now I've seen that another poster has said " fuck them I don't care about Muslims" well woop de doo, we aren't a country that respects only the rights of people we agree with, that's exactly what the fuck liberals are doing to Trump right now, they hate him, so they don't give a shit about his rights, and you can damn well bet that they would do the same to you or I if given the chance. Our ONLY defense against that sort of behavior is to not share that behavior. Meaning if you're gonna let Christians pray in school you damn well better let Muslims pray in school as well.

    And I guarantee you that even the conservative majority SCOTUS would rule in favor of Muslims who are told they can't pray in school while Christians are allowed to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    Gunny telling Christians they can pray in school but telling Muslims that they can not is a blatant violation of the Muslims first amendment rights, not to mention their 14th Amendment rights.

    Now I've seen that another poster has said " fuck them I don't care about Muslims" well woop de doo, we aren't a country that respects only the rights of people we agree with, that's exactly what the fuck liberals are doing to Trump right now, they hate him, so they don't give a shit about his rights, and you can damn well bet that they would do the same to you or I if given the chance. Our ONLY defense against that sort of behavior is to not share that behavior. Meaning if you're gonna let Christians pray in school you damn well better let Muslims pray in school as well.

    And I guarantee you that even the conservative majority SCOTUS would rule in favor of Muslims who are told they can't pray in school while Christians are allowed to.
    I agree with your basis of argument. At the same time, all the kids could, and some do, at various times of day. Are there calls to prayer? No, that would be a type of establishment. Are Christian kids allowed to gather and pray? No. Can they pray at their desk or in the lunchroom? Yes, provided they are not disruptive or having others join which would be a type of establishment.

    The questions of fairness for others and establishment have come mostly, if not exclusively in extracurricular activities, most often with an adult leading a team or club in some way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    Yep , wonderful news


    Until Muslim students start demanding their right to pray to Allah twice during each school day.
    How long do these prayers take to say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    How long do these prayers take to say?
    I ask who cares? Islam does not allow Christian prayers in its schools-- so why should we?
    This was founded as a Christian nation. Our Constitution is based upon Judeo-Christian precepts/beliefs/morality/freedoms.
    None of which Islam recognizes as rights or inherent freedoms of man!
    It is always going to come down to the reality that we must not allow -them- to destroy our beliefs in order to install their tyranny and oppression of freedom of religion-- freedom of religion they do not allow!!
    Equality be damned- they represent total intolerance/murder, savagery and evil.
    They represent slavery.
    We must not allow them to use our freedoms to be able to position themselves to destroy our freedoms.
    First we must understand and know that is their sole goal.
    And one they have along history of installing by murdering, raping, pillaging and destroying all that oppose it!
    Star Trek the Borg have nothing on them...
    Islam in its long history of conquest has murdered over 250 million people(that is the lowest estimate not the highest).
    They seek our total destruction- fairness can go straight to hell--with them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    I ask who cares? Islam does not allow Christian prayers in its schools-- so why should we?
    This was founded as a Christian nation. Our Constitution is based upon Judeo-Christian precepts/beliefs/morality/freedoms.
    None of which Islam recognizes as rights or inherent freedoms of man!
    It is always going to come down to the reality that we must not allow -them- to destroy our beliefs in order to install their tyranny and oppression of freedom of religion-- freedom of religion they do not allow!!
    Equality be damned- they represent total intolerance/murder, savagery and evil.
    They represent slavery.
    We must not allow them to use our freedoms to be able to position themselves to destroy our freedoms.
    First we must understand and know that is their sole goal.
    And one they have along history of installing by murdering, raping, pillaging and destroying all that oppose it!
    Star Trek the Borg have nothing on them...
    Islam in its long history of conquest has murdered over 250 million people(that is the lowest estimate not the highest).
    They seek our total destruction- fairness can go straight to hell--with them...
    So says a real American.... -Tyr
    My question wasn’t un-American. I was trying to find out if their prayers would be so lengthy as to be a disruption to education. AT kindly answered that question for me.

    As STTAB pointed out, allowing prayer in public schools will likely have unintended consequences. Such as Muslims asserting their First Amendment rights to whip out those taxpayer-provided prayer rugs and praying in two gender-restricted provided rooms several times a day. Whether we like it or not.

    At that point, the best we could hope for would probably be the argument that praying 3-5 times a day (and loudly?), is too disruptive of the education process.

    As parents, we can and should raise our Christian children to know and love God, know the Bible, and pray at church and at home. And perhaps silently at school. Against all that, not-praying out loud in school won’t mean much.
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    Default Answering your question Abbey.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    How long do these prayers take to say?

    During my time in Saudi Arabia during Operation Desert Storm, and in Bahrain where Muslims are the majority. They openly pray FIVE times a day. If you are outside during those prayers. They are BROADCAST from speakers placed around the city, and you can't hear anything else...they are so loud (intentionally). It is an eerie sound, almost scary at times with the screaming voices that extend certain tones in a way that is part screaming, and part something else. I have no idea how many times they would openly pray in school. But part of their prayers includes kneeling on a personal rug about 4 x 4 feet. Remember....FIVE TIMES A DAY UNTIL SUNSET.
    Just got this off of Youtube...
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