Meghan Markle and Prince Harry say the Queen doesn't own the word 'royal'

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Well howdy do skippy... looks like we got ourselves a RUMBLE ROYAL here...

But what I don't get is, if Harry and his little squeeze don't want to be part of the "royal family" anymore, then why in the HELL do they still want to use the royal titles?

Harry and Megan are starting to come off as a couple of real want their cake and eat it too cry baby idiots to me, but then, when you're getting ADVICE from the likes of the ass clown HUSSEIN OBAMA, you're probably going to do some STUPID things.

[Gunny]

The US leftwingnuts of the British Royal family

The MSM can't get enough.

[Abbey Marie]

It should be obvious to everyone that this is Meghan’s influence over Harry. By all accounts he and QEII truly love each other. She’s awful.

[Drummond]

None of us can know who is influencing who to take what stand.

My guess: yes, Meghan is influencing Harry. But, it's only a guess. How are any of us to know to what extent that Harry has some anti-Royal sentiments bottled up in him, which have done a lot to influence his actions, reaching back long before he ever met Meghan ?

What about the circumstances of the death of his mother, and what he himself has labelled the awful duty required of him, as 'a Royal', to publicly walk behind her coffin at her funeral ? How about all of the 'anti' sentiment Princess Diana herself must've nursed, in herself, thanks to the marriage she had with Charles, and the Family's way of regarding its troubles ? Could Harry not have thoughts rooted in any of that, and long-term resentments, ditto ?

Fact is ... we just don't know precisely what's in the minds of either Harry or Meghan, and how this impacts on current events. I can theorise. We all can. None of us knows we're right.

My only firm view is that this couple have a right to at least the chance of a happy life of THEIR choosing. If they try to seize or use any means they have to achieve that happy future, I'll never feel like begrudging them any of it.

[jimnyc]

None of us can know who is influencing who to take what stand.

My guess: yes, Meghan is influencing Harry. But, it's only a guess. How are any of us to know to what extent that Harry has some anti-Royal sentiments bottled up in him, which have done a lot to influence his actions, reaching back long before he ever met Meghan ?

I agree there, it's all speculation and some rumors in there. But without knowing anyone personally, you never know the full reasoning. Especially more so when it comes to Harry, as his life as a royal is unique and something most folks can only imagine about.

What about the circumstances of the death of his mother, and what he himself has labelled the awful duty required of him, as 'a Royal', to publicly walk behind her coffin at her funeral ? How about all of the 'anti' sentiment Princess Diana herself must've nursed, in herself, thanks to the marriage she had with Charles, and the Family's way of regarding its troubles ? Could Harry not have thoughts rooted in any of that, and long-term resentments, ditto ?

Yup, and MORE than agree there. If I were Harry, once old enough and learning enough, I would be off enjoying my life, minus public scrutiny and endless cameras and not to mention all of the duties that come with being a royal.

Fact is ... we just don't know precisely what's in the minds of either Harry or Meghan, and how this impacts on current events. I can theorise. We all can. None of us knows we're right.

My only firm view is that this couple have a right to at least the chance of a happy life of THEIR choosing. If they try to seize or use any means they have to achieve that happy future, I'll never feel like begrudging them any of it.

I have so much respect for the queen, and for being an American. I also had immense respect for princess Diana. And felt horrible for the boys the day they had to make that walk. That decision to have them do so was wrong IMO. They were children and shouldn't have had their feelings thrust into the spotlight like that. But they handled that admirably and themselves with their duties ever since. I have no shortage of respect for the royal family and all they do for people around the world.

I have no issue with them choosing a private life as I too would do the same. This here angered me as I didn't see a reason of even mentioning that they had the right to use it elsewhere or that the queen had no authority to stop them or however one reads it. I'm not sure where that came from but that's I guess what angered me. My opinion is that she deserves all the respect in the world and if she says not to use the term, you darn well don't use it!

I don't think William would ever have this same option. Well, no doubt he COULD. But being QE2 is way up in her years, and Charles who is next in line is already 71. That leaves William potentially for years to come. And then after him are his children. Am I reading all of that correctly?

[Gunny]

None of us can know who is influencing who to take what stand.

My guess: yes, Meghan is influencing Harry. But, it's only a guess. How are any of us to know to what extent that Harry has some anti-Royal sentiments bottled up in him, which have done a lot to influence his actions, reaching back long before he ever met Meghan ?

What about the circumstances of the death of his mother, and what he himself has labelled the awful duty required of him, as 'a Royal', to publicly walk behind her coffin at her funeral ? How about all of the 'anti' sentiment Princess Diana herself must've nursed, in herself, thanks to the marriage she had with Charles, and the Family's way of regarding its troubles ? Could Harry not have thoughts rooted in any of that, and long-term resentments, ditto ?

Fact is ... we just don't know precisely what's in the minds of either Harry or Meghan, and how this impacts on current events. I can theorise. We all can. None of us knows we're right.

My only firm view is that this couple have a right to at least the chance of a happy life of THEIR choosing. If they try to seize or use any means they have to achieve that happy future, I'll never feel like begrudging them any of it.

Sounds like the British version of a millennial. He's fine with his entitlements but cries like a little bitch about the responsibilities that go with them.

IF the media would just ignore these two and their antics, they'd shrivel up and blow away. Instead, they are going to get a free ride on nothing but their names.

If they were truly interested in having a happy life of their choosing, they wouldn't be making so much noise. I personally could care less what they think about anything. Their judgment, individual or collective, sucks from my POV and is therefore suspect in its entirety,

[Drummond]

Sounds like the British version of a millennial. He's fine with his entitlements but cries like a little bitch about the responsibilities that go with them.

IF the media would just ignore these two and their antics, they'd shrivel up and blow away. Instead, they are going to get a free ride on nothing but their names.

If they were truly interested in having a happy life of their choosing, they wouldn't be making so much noise. I personally could care less what they think about anything. Their judgment, individual or collective, sucks from my POV and is therefore suspect in its entirety,

Is it 'just their names' ? Harry's biological heritage (even if it's the only version of it he can look forward to ?) can't be denied. He IS a product of one of the most respected, dare I say 'revered', families on the planet.

Who, in knowing they had a permanent ability available to them of using the world's media whenever they choose to, would perpetually resist doing so ?

Harry didn't choose to be born. He didn't choose his parentage or the status due to him because of it. He didn't choose the fate his mother suffered, nor to suffer himself from its aftermath, and beyond. If he now chooses a more private life - AND to live comfortably, in the process - who am I to criticise his efforts to bring that about ? It IS his life, and surely even he has a right to exercise freedom regarding its style and nature. His future is (or should be ?) his own to command.

Meghan's a somewhat different proposition .. she did choose to marry a 'Royal', & she couldn't have been totally blind to its consequences. That said, doesn't 'even' she have a right to her own life, and with Harry, since that's what they both want ?

Probably, Harry will find his future to be a lot tougher than he imagines. But I refuse to begrudge him the best future he can hope for. And .. a name is only a name. It isn't of world shattering importance ....

[Bilgerat]

But what I don't get is, if Harry and his little squeeze don't want to be part of the "royal family" anymore, then why in the HELL do they still want to use the royal titles?