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    Here's some more data that may make others feel better, it does me. Note: it doesn't even mention that US and Germany both have extremely good docs/hospitals and very tested meds in general than other countries. That we are going out on a limb without the long FDA protocols show how seriously the government is fighting this:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-th...-case-numbers/

    What the Media Isn't Telling You About the United States' Coronavirus Case Numbers
    BY MATT MARGOLIS MARCH 27, 2020CHAT COMMENTS




    When President Trump said this week that the United States had done more testing than South Korea, USA Today was quick to fact-check his claim by pointing out, "The United States population is more than six times the size of South Korea’s. On a per-capita basis, South Korea is testing far more of its citizens than the U.S." In this case, the media attempted to use a per capita comparison against Trump. CNN and MSNBC each made similar fact-checks.


    On Thursday, the New York Times made a big fuss over the fact that more than 81,321 Americans have been infected with the coronavirus, which is "more cases than China, Italy or any other country has seen."


    According to their report, the United States, following "a series of missteps," is now "the epicenter of the pandemic."


    But, is it really?


    China's confirmed cases topped out at around 80,000, but, as PJM's Victoria Taft noted, China reportedly stopped conducting tests in order to show the world they've contained the spread of the virus. So, comparing any country to China at this point is useless.




    In a visual presentation titled "Where the U.S. Stands Now on Coronavirus Testing" the New York Times even used whole numbers for confirmed cases in one slide, and then in the next slide used per capita numbers for testing, in order to paint the United States in the worst light.


    SLIDE 1: This week, the number of coronavirus tests in the United States surpassed those in South Korea and Italy — two countries that had been testing more aggressively.

    SLIDE 2: But the United States, which has the most known coronavirus cases in the world, continues to lag in tests per capita, according to an analysis of estimates from the COVID Tracking Project. Both South Korea and Italy have much smaller populations than the U.S.


    So, why weren't the case numbers adjusted to show them on a per capita basis, the same way testing was?


    Well, let's take a look and see why.


    Here are the top six countries by confirmed cases (based on the case numbers from the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University as of 2:30 pm ET March 27) in descending order:


    USA (94,238)
    Italy (86,498)
    Spain (64,059)
    Germany (49,344)
    Iran (32,332)
    France (29,593)


    Now, here are the top six countries by confirmed cases per million people (based on population numbers from the CIA World Fact Book) in descending order:


    Italy (1386.13)
    Spain (1280.78)
    Germany (615.57)
    France (436.17)
    Iran (380.72)
    USA (283.30)


    Well, isn't that interesting? The United States' confirmed cases per capita are the lowest of the top six countries affected by the virus. Now, there are some who would argue that the United States testing lags behind that of other countries. If we want to assume that there is a discrepancy in testing between countries and that selection bias in testing undercounts the infection rate, then the number of coronavirus deaths is a more accurate way of measuring the impact of the pandemic in each country. So, let's look at total confirmed deaths in descending order.




    Italy (9,134)
    Spain (4,934)
    Iran (2,378)
    France (1,698)
    USA (1,438)
    Germany (304)


    Germany looks pretty good compared to everyone else, doesn't it? But, let's look at confirmed deaths per million people in descending order, to see how that changes things:


    Italy (146.37)
    Spain (98.65)
    Iran (28.00)
    France (25.03)
    USA (4.32)
    Germany (3.79)


    Interesting indeed! Germany and the United States have significantly better coronavirus death rates per capita than Italy, Spain, Iran and France. A lot better. This is why the media avoids per capita measurements for confirmed cases, but conveniently remembered when it wanted to fact-check Trump's testing numbers.


    The media wants you to believe that the coronavirus in the United States is spiraling out of control the way it did in Italy. Fact check: it isn't.


    Note: You can view the data used for this post here. This post has been updated with new information.


    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


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    A few days behind, and now caught up - BUT - today's stats are not there yet. I'm not putting differences today as they will seem skewered as I missed a day in there.

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    3-30-2020

    Total Confirmed
    741,030

    143,532 US

    New York City, New York, US
    Confirmed: 33,768
    Deaths: 776

    Westchester, New York, US
    Confirmed: 8,519
    Deaths: 10

    Los Angeles, California, US
    Confirmed: 2,147
    Deaths: 37

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    United Kingdom
    Confirmed: 19,522
    Deaths: 1,228

    Italy
    Confirmed: 97,689
    Deaths: 10,779

    Spain
    Confirmed: 85,195
    Deaths: 7,340

    Germany
    Confirmed: 63,929
    Deaths: 560
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    No new stats from today yet, but it looks like WI could be flattening it's curve also. I hope so. I'm hoping it's just down to identifying the last of those infected, and they haven't been out spreading it. In any case, we have a way to go yet, it certainly isn't over...



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    Delaware somewhat- current stats. My county is New Castle.

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    It has been reported that 3 New Yorkers travelled all the way to Delaware to be treated in our best local hospital. I have a brother and lots of relatives in New York City, and Jim is of course in Westchester, so I have mixed emotions. I understand why someone would want to do this, but is it the right thing to do? (We are a tiny state and have limited resources for our own sick, and we are said to still be approximately 3 weeks from our peak of the virus).

    The Governor has issued an order that anyone who comes here must self-quarantine for 14 days. That seems like a joke to me. Unenforceable; plus those coming to a hospital are far from self-quarantining. No word on how many come here from adjoining state Pennsylvania.

    What do you all think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    It has been reported that 3 New Yorkers travelled all the way to Delaware to be treated in our best local hospital. I have a brother and lots of relatives in New York City, and Jim is of course in Westchester, so I have mixed emotions. I understand why someone would want to do this, but is it the right thing to do? (We are a tiny state and have limited resources for our own sick, and we are said to still be approximately 3 weeks from our peak of the virus).

    The Governor has issued an order that anyone who comes here must self-quarantine for 14 days. That seems like a joke to me. Unenforceable; plus those coming to a hospital are far from self-quarantining. No word on how many come here from adjoining state Pennsylvania.

    What do you all think?
    I am stating this from someone in New York amidst all of this - I don't think folks should be going to other states. Everyone should be staying put for now. Any traveling, any vacations and any interaction with others is a potential passing. I guess I can have it right now but only pass it. So I respect that and will ride it out. I pray I don't need a hospital as I know they will be overwhelmed. But going to other hospitals out of state shouldn't be happening. Not unless directed to do so - and maybe even an ambulance or some other hospital accommodated travel, like life flight. But I highly doubt they do any of this. They are making all kinds of makeshift hospitals and what not, and folks need to be going to such places. I see how bad the hospitals look and I hope I don't need one. But if I have it, I have it, and I need help, a local is just as good and it's not like I'm gonna catch it - I would have have it already before ever going to one.

    So no, I don't agree with those folks. We don't know everything and who the hell knows who has what and is passing what. I wouldn't even care if they locked down out of state travel. Just let the otherwise healthy at least drive within the state and still be able to function a little as far as getting medications and groceries. I have protection and I take all precautions. So yeah, I say lock 'em down and don't let them out - as folks are lying and I see it with my own eyes! Anyone can easily go over the border and just ignore any quarantine as they "feel well" - but they may still pass it.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    So infected cases do seem to be on the downward trend here in Wisco... that is GOOD NEWS... now if it just CONTINUES that way... still only ONE in my county, but I would like to know WHERE. They don't have to give out physical addresses or names, just the TOWN. I think people have a RIGHT TO KNOW that.





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