Some New Yorkers riding crowded subway commutes during coronavirus pandemic

[jimnyc]

Crowded subways.

And deBlasio complains about Trump. This should all be closed down IMO.

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Some New Yorkers riding crowded subway commutes during coronavirus pandemic

NEW YORK - Despite the coronavirus pandemic, some New Yorkers are still piling on to crowded subway cars and buses to get to work every day.

“People have got to use common sense,” said New York City Transit Interim President Sarah E. Feinberg. “If the train that you’re on is getting crowded, get off at the next stop and wait for the next one.”

Feinberg says that recent pictures and videos of crowded cars on the subway are “isolated incidents.”

Rest - https://www.fox5ny.com/news/some-new...virus-pandemic

[Drummond]

Crowded subways.

And deBlasio complains about Trump. This should all be closed down IMO.

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Some New Yorkers riding crowded subway commutes during coronavirus pandemic

NEW YORK - Despite the coronavirus pandemic, some New Yorkers are still piling on to crowded subway cars and buses to get to work every day.

“People have got to use common sense,” said New York City Transit Interim President Sarah E. Feinberg. “If the train that you’re on is getting crowded, get off at the next stop and wait for the next one.”

Feinberg says that recent pictures and videos of crowded cars on the subway are “isolated incidents.”

Rest - https://www.fox5ny.com/news/some-new...virus-pandemic

Let me guess: you've got a Leftie Mayor in charge ?

Snap.

So has London. London's seeing the same crowding on its own transport system. Reduced services = greater crowding, on what remains. London's Mayor refuses to fix that. Yours has created, and is perpetuating, the same conditions ?

[Gunny]

Crowded subways.

And deBlasio complains about Trump. This should all be closed down IMO.

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Some New Yorkers riding crowded subway commutes during coronavirus pandemic

NEW YORK - Despite the coronavirus pandemic, some New Yorkers are still piling on to crowded subway cars and buses to get to work every day.

“People have got to use common sense,” said New York City Transit Interim President Sarah E. Feinberg. “If the train that you’re on is getting crowded, get off at the next stop and wait for the next one.”

Feinberg says that recent pictures and videos of crowded cars on the subway are “isolated incidents.”

Rest - https://www.fox5ny.com/news/some-new...virus-pandemic

Fact is, there is "that" crowd that doesn't immunize and aren't going to believe this is a problem. It goes to the root of the entire issue of Government vs individual Rights. Peoples' opinions of what others should or shouldn't be doing based on what they or the government thinks does not make those Rights go away.

I'm not real keen on any of this government overreach going on. At the same time, when you got stupid people endangering others, a line has to be drawn.

It would be really nice if only the stupid people got the virus. They couldn't argue they don't deserve it

[Drummond]

Fact is, there is "that" crowd that doesn't immunize and aren't going to believe this is a problem. It goes to the root of the entire issue of Government vs individual Rights. Peoples' opinions of what others should or shouldn't be doing based on what they or the government thinks does not make those Rights go away.

I'm not real keen on any of this government overreach going on. At the same time, when you got stupid people endangering others, a line has to be drawn.

It would be really nice if only the stupid people got the virus. They couldn't argue they don't deserve it

I don't have any clear understanding on America's situation ... but, here, we differentiate between wartime and peacetime conditions. There is such as thing as aligning a society and its powers in law, to meet emergencies.

I'm having a hard time seeing today's virus situation as being different to a wartime scenario. In war, you have an enemy that means you great harm. Now, Covid-19 may not have consciousness, but its whole reason for being is to act in a destructive fashion, and to 'do harm' ... just as is true of an enemy.

Therefore, we are all 'at war' with Covid-19.

Here, by and large, people understand that special powers must intervene and shape the best response to the virus. This is no less than realistic. You enjoy freedoms, to the extent that they can be afforded. When they can't be afforded, then, they just can't.

Better to suspend freedoms temporarily than to invite mass death to serve an immovable ideology, one not geared to evolve as conditions demand.

[Gunny]

I don't have any clear understanding on America's situation ... but, here, we differentiate between wartime and peacetime conditions. There is such as thing as aligning a society and its powers in law, to meet emergencies.

I'm having a hard time seeing today's virus situation as being different to a wartime scenario. In war, you have an enemy that means you great harm. Now, Covid-19 may not have consciousness, but its whole reason for being is to act in a destructive fashion, and to 'do harm' ... just as is true of an enemy.

Therefore, we are all 'at war' with Covid-19.

Here, by and large, people understand that special powers must intervene and shape the best response to the virus. This is no less than realistic. You enjoy freedoms, to the extent that they can be afforded. When they can't be afforded, then, they just can't.

Better to suspend freedoms temporarily than to invite mass death to serve an immovable ideology, one not geared to evolve as conditions demand.

I don't know that there's a difference per se. But a LOT of the BS the left has pulled over the years is based on Government intrusion on individual Rights. We do it all the time and just say we don't. The biggest issue in that argument is who/what trumps who/what because there is no real provision to deny us our individual Rights guaranteed by the US Constitution. The government just does it.

Abraham Lincoln and FDR are two perfect examples. They trampled the Constitution and individual Rights for what they perceived as the greater good.

What really gets my knickers in a bunch is when the very people who scream "the law, the Constitution, MY Rights" are perfectly willing to deny others theirs to force them to do things their way when it suits them. This Chinese flu issue has shone the spotlight on this hypocrisy once again.

[Drummond]

I don't know that there's a difference per se. But a LOT of the BS the left has pulled over the years is based on Government intrusion on individual Rights. We do it all the time and just say we don't. The biggest issue in that argument is who/what trumps who/what because there is no real provision to deny us our individual Rights guaranteed by the US Constitution. The government just does it.

Abraham Lincoln and FDR are two perfect examples. They trampled the Constitution and individual Rights for what they perceived as the greater good.

What really gets my knickers in a bunch is when the very people who scream "the law, the Constitution, MY Rights" are perfectly willing to deny others theirs to force them to do things their way when it suits them. This Chinese flu issue has shone the spotlight on this hypocrisy once again.

Here, it''s a fairly simple issue ... as we have no Constitution to overrule. There's also a very clear understanding that wartime 'freedoms' cannot possibly be a match for peacetime ones.

Take the Falklands War, 1982. It made no difference to the British way of life, on the British mainland ... of course. Nonetheless, reporting restrictions obeyed wartime rules, for the sake of security. We all knew that our daily media updates on the conflict's progress had to omit some detail, because the war footing mandated it. We all accepted it.

Fast-forward to today, literally TODAY. We're in a brief period of near-summer weather, and this is encouraging people to freely wander about, just as they choose, how they choose. This has prompted our Health Secretary to say that, if this continues, freedom of movement will have to be curtailed even more than now.

Nobody questions his authority to enact that, if he chooses to.

Hypocrisy. Well, coming from the Left, you'll see that ! Left-wing politics is about enacting power, not conceding to it. A Leftie has an agenda ? Nobody, and nothing, will get in the way of it. The Left's sheer arrogance is absolute. That's a given.

A thought: Homeland Security must surely, to freely operate, need powers that intrude on freedoms ? Who would question the correctness of that ? Fact: wartime conditions DO need a rewriting of 'freedoms' to meet the status quo.