More on the hydroxychloroquine

[jimnyc]

When you or one of your loved ones is on their last breath you can tell me all about what you won't take.

My biggest fear of being an owner of a joint like this and having folks I know well and like all posting here... it's kinda my responsibility to an extent what people write here and my decision not to ban people and allow freedom of speech to rule.

God forbid one of us here is to get sick from this virus, or one of our loved ones. I think we would all share as we have known one another for so long now, and care about one another.

I truly think ONE person would actually get a kick out of it, and tell that person they should avoid such a medication and choose death instead. That's the left for you and this ONE for sure.

[Gunny]

My biggest fear of being an owner of a joint like this and having folks I know well and like all posting here... it's kinda my responsibility to an extent what people write here and my decision not to ban people and allow freedom of speech to rule.

God forbid one of us here is to get sick from this virus, or one of our loved ones. I think we would all share as we have known one another for so long now, and care about one another.

I truly think ONE person would actually get a kick out of it, and tell that person they should avoid such a medication and choose death instead. That's the left for you and this ONE for sure.

I doubt he'd even get a kick out of it. That would require enjoying something, even if at someone else's expense. I think he just flat doesn't care what happens to anyone or anything but himself and he's scared shitless and taking it out on us.


He holds no hope therefore must shoot down the hopes of others. Been people like that around all my life. Got to share the misery.

[Russ]

... Trump gutted the CDC ...

"Trump gutted the CDC" and "Trump gutted the stockpile of pandemic supplies" are the latest mantras of the anti-Trump media and their minions. They mostly seem to believe that if these lines get repeated enough times they somehow become true.

First, CDC funding has gone up during the Trump administration, not down. I'm not sure how Trump can be gutting the CDC if the CDC is receiving more money than it did during the Obama years.

Second, the stockpile of pandemic supplies was actually gutted during the Obama Administration. They used up mostly the N95 facemask supplies for an H1N1 epidemic a few years ago. That might be valid, but then they never replenished the supplies they used.

USAToday did a fact check on this and rated it "True". Check for yourself...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...le/5114319002/

[jimnyc]

"Trump gutted the CDC" and "Trump gutted the stockpile of pandemic supplies" are the latest mantras of the anti-Trump media and their minions. They mostly seem to believe that if these lines get repeated enough times they somehow become true.

First, CDC funding has gone up during the Trump administration, not down. I'm not sure how Trump can be gutting the CDC if the CDC is receiving more money than it did during the Obama years.

Second, the stockpile of pandemic supplies was actually gutted during the Obama Administration. They used up mostly the N95 facemask supplies for an H1N1 epidemic a few years ago. That might be valid, but then they never replenished the supplies they used.

USAToday did a fact check on this and rated it "True". Check for yourself...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...le/5114319002/

You can educate him and school him as you just did. You can post video and articles from both right leaning sites and the leftest of the left showing either wrongdoing from the left, or admitting that his heroes who are involved in wrongdoing did anything, or that they and the MSM like to lie to us, non-stop. He won't ever see wrongdoing from the left, not of those of the leaders and all of those posted for many years here. He will deny it happened. He will ignore any proof or evidence or facts anyone should post. He will ignore the very words of the folks themselves. He will ignore. He will deny. He will blame the source no matter what is in the source, no matter who it got its information from. He'll post a half a sentence and a link to some garbage and then bail after that. Or ignore. Or he suddenly gets busy and disappears when it's something "big" and he gets nailed to the cross. That's a month missing at least. Then it's "client time". Or when nailed, he will pull out the "I don't have time for this or that BS and to be here like you losers" garbage. You get the idea, every excuse and disappearing act known to man. Not an honest bone in his body and is the leader of all lying partisan hacks.

Overstating and exaggeration? Plllllleeeeeease. That just barely covers the tip with his intellectual dishonesty and intellectual shortcomings.

[Russ]

I really don't agree with the idea of not making treatments available to sick people until the treatment has undergone months or years of testing. People are dying. Thousands of people are dying. Every day. How about this - the promising treatments that are out there currently should be an option for anyone who is dangerously sick, and we can see who gets better. When the alternative is death, then what is the risk they are worried about?

Worse, the liberal / anti-Trump part of the media spends so much time scoffing at hydroxychoroquine and zithromycin simply because Trump talked about it. They actually put attacking Trump ahead of finding a treatment for this pandemic.

I say that any member of the media does a piece scoffing at hydroxychoroquine and zithromycin and then gets sick later with COVID should refuse to take hydroxychoroquine and zithromycin. They should offer their prescription to the patient in the next hospital bed. That will convince me that they really thought that hydroxychoroquine and zithromycin is a stupid idea.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I know... let's have a fancy draw contest...

[Russ]

"Why Johnny Ringo....."

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

IMO they should be fast tracking and making this medication en masse. They already know it works for many. They know it works for many other things, including malaria and lupus... So I think it will be used. Or have factories creating to keep up with the infected at the very least.

So positive is reported, and then they take over the medication and folks are sick and being denied now? WTF? Fast track it then pull the rug out?

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"This is WRONG!" - Licensed Physician in Utah Unable to Prescribe Hydroxychloroquine Because 'State Has Taken Over Distribution of Drug'

This is disturbing.

A licensed physician in Utah said on Sunday that he is unable to prescribe hydroxychloroquine because the state has taken over distribution of the drug.

Dr. Bill MD, is “trained extensively in diagnosis and treatment of human disease.”

Dr. Bill is a contributor to the Debbie Aldrich show and according to Aldrich’s website, “Dr. Bill majored in medical biology graduating Magna Cum Laude at age 19, Graduated from medical school at 23 from Miami University Medical School, Interned at Mount Siani Medical before beginning his own practice.”

Debbie Aldrich is also a contributor at CD Media.



In other words, Dr. Bill is a brilliant doctor and knows more about treatments of diseases than government officials.

“I am a licensed physician in Utah. I tried to prescribe hydroxychloroquine but the pharmacist said the state had taken over the distribution of the drug. Even though I’m licensed, I cannot prescribe it. This is WRONG!” Dr. Bill said in a tweet.



Dr. Bill followed up in a second tweet and said we are in the middle of a pandemic and need to be a little liberal with rules.



The FDA last week issued an emergency authorization for experimental Coronavirus treatments using chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, reported Forbes.

Via Forbes:



Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ribution-drug/

My wife still has a leftover month's supply from when she quit taking it as a second medication for her arthritis. So if the virus hits either of us- we could immediately take that I guess. Of course she is a Respiratory Care Specialist working at the hospital and they check her for C-19-virus every day before she starts her 12 hours shift. She goes straight to work and straight back to home-- nowhere else-- as I do all the shopping, all the going, all the running. This has been the way- for almost 8 weeks now and will stay the way we work it.
I take the risks of engaging the public, while she takes the risks working in the hospital. Currently there are no C-19 virus cases in her hospital, zero.. ... -Tyr

[Drummond]

You can educate him and school him as you just did. You can post video and articles from both right leaning sites and the leftest of the left showing either wrongdoing from the left, or admitting that his heroes who are involved in wrongdoing did anything, or that they and the MSM like to lie to us, non-stop. He won't ever see wrongdoing from the left, not of those of the leaders and all of those posted for many years here. He will deny it happened. He will ignore any proof or evidence or facts anyone should post. He will ignore the very words of the folks themselves. He will ignore. He will deny. He will blame the source no matter what is in the source, no matter who it got its information from. He'll post a half a sentence and a link to some garbage and then bail after that. Or ignore. Or he suddenly gets busy and disappears when it's something "big" and he gets nailed to the cross. That's a month missing at least. Then it's "client time". Or when nailed, he will pull out the "I don't have time for this or that BS and to be here like you losers" garbage. You get the idea, every excuse and disappearing act known to man. Not an honest bone in his body and is the leader of all lying partisan hacks.

Overstating and exaggeration? Plllllleeeeeease. That just barely covers the tip with his intellectual dishonesty and intellectual shortcomings.

Pete will never, ever, give ground.

Tell him the earth is round, and if his Left-leaning buddies are entrenched in escapist propaganda (i.e, LIES) that say otherwise ... he'll never concede that it IS round.

Believing in Leftist propaganda absolutely requires slavish devotion to all that propaganda says. Nothing, absolutely nothing, that'll impinge to the most microscopic degree on the veracity of that propaganda can, or will, ever be acknowledged as true.

This is Pete's standpoint, and it's utterly immovable. YOU must bend to HIM ... never, but never, can it ever be the other way around. Forget truth. The truth to Pete is not WHAT it is, but what he SAYS it is.

This will never change. It's in the nature of the creed he's enslaved to. NEVER admit to error. NEVER concede any inconvenient truth. Dogma is literally all.

[Gunny]

You can educate him and school him as you just did. You can post video and articles from both right leaning sites and the leftest of the left showing either wrongdoing from the left, or admitting that his heroes who are involved in wrongdoing did anything, or that they and the MSM like to lie to us, non-stop. He won't ever see wrongdoing from the left, not of those of the leaders and all of those posted for many years here. He will deny it happened. He will ignore any proof or evidence or facts anyone should post. He will ignore the very words of the folks themselves. He will ignore. He will deny. He will blame the source no matter what is in the source, no matter who it got its information from. He'll post a half a sentence and a link to some garbage and then bail after that. Or ignore. Or he suddenly gets busy and disappears when it's something "big" and he gets nailed to the cross. That's a month missing at least. Then it's "client time". Or when nailed, he will pull out the "I don't have time for this or that BS and to be here like you losers" garbage. You get the idea, every excuse and disappearing act known to man. Not an honest bone in his body and is the leader of all lying partisan hacks.

Overstating and exaggeration? Plllllleeeeeease. That just barely covers the tip with his intellectual dishonesty and intellectual shortcomings.

True enough. Look how he dumped this thread and went to another like he didn't get his ass kicked at all in this one. Last I looked, he was already 1-2 threads on down the denial line.

[Gunny]

My wife still has a leftover month's supply from when she quit taking it as a second medication for her arthritis. So if the virus hits either of us- we could immediately take that I guess. Of course she is a Respiratory Care Specialist working at the hospital and they check her for C-19-virus every day before she starts her 12 hours shift. She goes straight to work and straight back to home-- nowhere else-- as I do all the shopping, all the going, all the running. This has been the way- for almost 8 weeks now and will stay the way we work it.
I take the risks of engaging the public, while she takes the risks working in the hospital. Currently there are no C-19 virus cases in her hospital, zero.. ... -Tyr

Given the circumstances, looks to me like "married well" just went to "jackpot"

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Given the circumstances, looks to me like "married well" just went to "jackpot"

sshhhh! Not too loud with that info my friend-- I've got her thinking she hit the jackpot..

And she thinks my poetry is great-- a double for me!

But you are right on the mark with your astute observation..... just dont say it too loud-- she might get wind of it.

Then the jig would be up , after 15 plus years now, and still going strong. --Tyr

[jimnyc]

Some repeats in there, but a little collection of success and hope...


Long Island doctor tries new twist on hydroxychloroquine for elderly COVID-19 patients

Alam began treating his patients, 45 of whom had tested positive for the coronavirus after they developed a high fever, shortness of breath and cough.

He received permission from their families before starting them on the medications, which have not yet undergone randomized controlled trials.

“The majority had clinical improvement,” said Alam. “We had very good outcomes.”

Alam said that 38 of 47 patients treated returned to their baseline and their symptoms resolved. Seven of the patients were transferred to a hospital and two died.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/long-i...d-19-patients/


LA doctor seeing success with hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- A Los Angeles doctor said he is seeing significant success in prescribing the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc to treat patients with severe symptoms of COVID-19.

Hydroxychloroquine has been touted as a possible treatment for COVID-19 by President Trump among others, but it remains controversial as some experts believe it is unproven and may not be effective.

The drug has long been used for treatment of malaria and conditions such as lupus and arthritis but is not technically approved by the FDA for COVID-19. The agency, however, is encouraging trials and has provided limited emergency authorization for its use to treat COVID-19 patients.

Dr. Anthony Cardillo said he has seen very promising results when prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients.

"Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free," Cardillo told Eyewitness News. "So clinically I am seeing a resolution."

https://abc7.com/coronavirus-drug-co...quine/6079864/

Hydroxychloroquine rated 'most effective therapy' by doctors for coronavirus: Global survey

An international poll of more than 6,000 doctors released Thursday found that the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine was the most highly rated treatment for the novel coronavirus.

The survey conducted by Sermo, a global health care polling company, of 6,227 physicians in 30 countries found that 37% of those treating COVID-19 patients rated hydroxychloroquine as the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ve-therapy-do/

Treating with hydroxychloroquine

One North Jersey doctor says he’s treated more than 100 patients at Saint Barnabas Medical Center and has had success using a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, an antibiotic.

“I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic,” the doctor, Stephen Smith, said last week when interviewed by Laura Ingraham, a conservative host of a television show on Fox. He is head of the Smith Center for Infectious Diseases and Urban Health in East Orange.

On Monday, Smith said only one of about 75 patients receiving a full course of the drugs had to be intubated — have a tracheal tube inserted to use a ventilator. He said that was Sunday night.

“He was an outlier,” Smith said of the patient.

https://www.northjersey.com/story/ne...ug/2951640001/

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko Has Now treated 699 Coronavirus Patients With 100% Success Using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc And Z-Pak

Last Wednesday, we published the success story from Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a board-certified family practitioner in New York, after he successfully treated 350 coronavirus patients with 100 percent success using a cocktail of drugs: hydroxychloroquine, in combination with azithromycin (Z-Pak), an antibiotic to treat secondary infections, and zinc sulfate. Dr. Zelenko said he saw the symptom of shortness of breath resolved within four to six hours after treatment.

Now, Dr. Zelenko provides updates on the treatment after he successfully treated 699 COVID-19 patients in New York. In an exclusive interview with former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Vladmir Zelenko shares the results of his latest study, which showed that out of his 699 patients treated, zero patients died, zero patients intubated, and four hospitalizations…

https://tsionizm.com/science-technol...inc-and-z-pak/

A man with coronavirus who works in LA says the drug used to treat malaria saved his life

LOS ANGELES - Rio Giardinieri, 52, who is vice-president of a company that manufactures cooking equipment at high-end restaurants in LA and around the world, thinks he contracted COVID-19 at a conference in New York. He had a fever for five days, horrendous back pain, headache, cough, and tiredness. He was sleeping about 15 hours a day when he’s used to getting five hours a night.

“I was at the point where I was barely able to speak and breathing was very challenging. I really thought my end was there. I had been through nine days of solid pain and for me, the end was there. So I made some calls to say in my own way goodbye to my friends and family.” A dear friend immediately sent him a recent article about hydroxychloroquine, an old anti-malaria medicine proven successful to treat COVID-19 patients overseas, and insisted he take the drug.

So, Giardinieri reached out to an infectious disease doctor. “He gave me all the reasons why I would probably not want to try it because there are no trials, there’s no testing, it was not something that was approved. And I said look I don’t know if I’m going to make it until the morning because at that point I really thought I was coming to the end because I couldn’t breathe anymore. He agreed and authorized the use of it and 30 minutes later the nurse gave it to me.

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“Not to mention the recovery period for patients,” Giardinieri says, for him, it was life-saving.

“I just want everyone to know there’s an option. You don’t have to just sit there and hydrate. There’s a medicine that’s working.”He had three doses of the medicine Saturday. Doctors now have to wait to make sure coronavirus is knocked out of his system so he doesn’t infect anyone else. He’s hoping to go home to his family in about five days.

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/a-...saved-his-life

Doctors Join Pennacchio’s Call to Use Hydroxychloroquine to Combat Spread of COVID-19

Jim Santilli, a coronavirus patient, says hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin saved his life

Jim Santilli, a coronavirus patient from Detroit, credits hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for his quick recovery saying the the two drugs saved his life. Santilli was recently given the antimalaria drug that is showing positive results for beating COVID-19. Jim Santilli said it helped him and he believes it could help others, too.

“I was struggling to breathe. I felt like I was slowly drowning and I was sitting there thinking I’m not going to make it until midnight,” he said. Santilli says the antimalaria drug Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin brought him back to life. The 38-year old Detroit resident was prescribed the drugs a little more than a week ago at Henry Ford Macomb where he was hospitalized for COVID-19.

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/31/...aved-his-life/

Actor Daniel Dae Kim says anti-malaria drug touted by President Trump saved his life

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/23/...mp-saved-life/

Top 50 U.S. Doctors Join The Call to Use Hydroxychloroquine to Combat Spread of COVID-19. Federal and State governments should immediately direct public policy towards increasing production, storage and establishing a distribution protocol and regimen for HCQ to ameliorate the spread of the COVID-19 virus. This was the conclusion reached by U.S. academic studies in response to French infectious disease specialist Dr. Raoult’s peer review study, saying HCQ has a strong potential as a prophylactic measure against the severity of COVID-19, 50 U.S. doctors said in a public release.

Michigan Democratic lawmaker says hydroxychloroquine saved her life

A Michigan state lawmaker infected with COVID-19 is crediting the controversial anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine with saving her life — saying she felt better within a few hours of taking her prescription.

Democratic state Rep. Karen Whitsett of Detroit told FOX News’ “The Ingraham Angle” Monday that she went into home quarantine on March 12, the day she last attended a session at the State House in Lansing, and her condition only got worse from there.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/michig...aved-her-life/


https://www.virology.ws/2020/03/19/h...d-19-patients/

Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko
Board Certified Family Practitioner
501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950
845-238-0000


March 23, 2020

To all medical professionals around the world:

My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.

As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc).

Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results:

1. Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated.
2. Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated.
3. Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2).

My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:

1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days

The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.

Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.

Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.

In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives.

With much respect,

Dr. Zev Zelenko

[Abbey Marie]

Pete will never, ever, give ground.

Tell him the earth is round, and if his Left-leaning buddies are entrenched in escapist propaganda (i.e, LIES) that say otherwise ... he'll never concede that it IS round.

Believing in Leftist propaganda absolutely requires slavish devotion to all that propaganda says. Nothing, absolutely nothing, that'll impinge to the most microscopic degree on the veracity of that propaganda can, or will, ever be acknowledged as true.

This is Pete's standpoint, and it's utterly immovable. YOU must bend to HIM ... never, but never, can it ever be the other way around. Forget truth. The truth to Pete is not WHAT it is, but what he SAYS it is.

This will never change. It's in the nature of the creed he's enslaved to. NEVER admit to error. NEVER concede any inconvenient truth. Dogma is literally all.

Have had this sentiment in my signature for a while.