Boris Johnson taken to intensive care.

[Kathianne]

Thanks for that.

Kath gives me the impression of seeking a basis for equivocation. In fact, no such basis exists. I believe there's a genuine lack of comprehension there of what exactly does drive a Leftie, and consequently what it makes them capable of.

I have to hope that such equivocation (or desire for same) is shared by as few people as possible, on our side. It's something the Left would love to exploit, and WILL, if they can.

I'm unsure why you would be put off by what I wrote, it was all true. Indeed, there was nothing there to disagree with from a conservative, as I don't believe that it's the business of schools to be feeding the kids, but it's the parents responsibility.

Heck I'm not keen on the whole food stamps idea, just not sure how to reverse something that now so many are dependent upon-which should sound very familiar to you. It's what socialism does, create dependence and control.

[tailfins]

Boris Johnson could be a huge inspiration to demonstrate that the Chinese Virus isn't a death sentence. Personally, I would rather have Coronavirus than a toxic boss. More than likely, one could put Coronavirus behind them after a couple of months. Some people live with effects of a toxic boss for years. As someone who has practiced social distancing most of my life, the heath restrictions don't represent a huge change for me. I would rather be around a physically toxic person than a psychologically toxic person. Of course these are not mutually exclusive. One can distance from both physically and psychologically toxic people. As one former co-worker that worked in an out-of-town office said, "When the team lead starts yelling at us, I get to turn down the volume".

[Kathianne]

Over 98% recovery rate. Only an idiot would think 'death sentence.'

[Drummond]

Boris Johnson could be a huge inspiration to demonstrate that the Chinese Virus isn't a death sentence. Personally, I would rather have Coronavirus than a toxic boss. More than likely, one could put Coronavirus behind them after a couple of months. Some people live with effects of a toxic boss for years. As someone who has practiced social distancing most of my life, the heath restrictions don't represent a huge change for me. I would rather be around a physically toxic person than a psychologically toxic person. Of course these are not mutually exclusive. One can distance from both physically and psychologically toxic people. As one former co-worker that worked in an out-of-town office said, "When the team lead starts yelling at us, I get to turn down the volume".

The virus came from China, yes. But I was unaware that it held Chinese nationality, or for that matter, any nationalistic characteristics of any kind. I'm unaware of one instance where the virus has ever produced a Chinese passport ...

.... then again, I suppose you could argue that it was an illegal immigrant ...

Well, anyway. We don't know how near Boris came to dying from it, and indeed, whether the nursing he received did actually SAVE his life. But in case you think otherwise, Covid-19 DOES KILL. Look to statistics coming out of New York if you don't believe me !

Show me statistical instances of toxic bosses that have kill rates remotely comparable to the figures you'll unearth !

Simple fact: the less seriously we take Covid-19, the greater the freedom it'll have to kill. Lockdowns are very far from ideal. But I'm sure there are already people alive who'd have died without them.

[Drummond]

Over 98% recovery rate. Only an idiot would think 'death sentence.'

There are people out there with compromised immune systems. There are people who've been undergoing cancer therapy. Many may, indeed, think of Covid-19 as a death sentence, should they contract it. None of them are, or will be, idiots ... I suggest.

[Kathianne]

The virus came from China, yes. But I was unaware that it held Chinese nationality, or for that matter, any nationalistic characteristics of any kind. I'm unaware of one instance where the virus has ever produced a Chinese passport ...

.... then again, I suppose you could argue that it was an illegal immigrant ...

Well, anyway. We don't know how near Boris came to dying from it, and indeed, whether the nursing he received did actually SAVE his life. But in case you think otherwise, Covid-19 DOES KILL. Look to statistics coming out of New York if you don't believe me !

Show me statistical instances of toxic bosses that have kill rates remotely comparable to the figures you'll unearth !

Simple fact: the less seriously we take Covid-19, the greater the freedom it'll have to kill. Lockdowns are very far from ideal. But I'm sure there are already people alive who'd have died without them.

Latest propaganda via MSM, 'New York cases came mostly from Europe, not China.' D'oh! Infected Europeans kept coming to US after China was blocked. Both of us said it made no sense to leave Europe open for travel here, with Italy melting down. Then UK was left open, for a couple more days. Those were mistakes, but mistakes are inevitable.

[Drummond]

Latest propaganda via MSM, 'New York cases came mostly from Europe, not China.' D'oh! Infected Europeans kept coming to US after China was blocked. Both of us said it made no sense to leave Europe open for travel here, with Italy melting down. Then UK was left open, for a couple more days. Those were mistakes, but mistakes are inevitable.

Points well made, yes. I for one saw no sense in treating the UK any differently to the rest of Europe ... and, Trump's Administration did act too slowly in decreeing a travel ban.

I've heard a suggestion (I've no idea if this has yet been verified) on LBC radio. The suggestion is that Covid-19 has already mutated into three, slightly different, strains. The one in Wuhan was strain #A. The one we in the UK have is strain #B. A more virulent strain evolved in Italy was strain #C, and New York has that strain of it.

[Kathianne]

Points well made, yes. I for one saw no sense in treating the UK any differently to the rest of Europe ... and, Trump's Administration did act too slowly in decreeing a travel ban.

I've heard a suggestion (I've no idea if this has yet been verified) on LBC radio. The suggestion is that Covid-19 has already mutated into three, slightly different, strains. The one in Wuhan was strain #A. The one we in the UK have is strain #B. A more virulent strain evolved in Italy was strain #C, and New York has that strain of it.

I've seen mixed articles regarding mutations. I think this is one of those times that 'wait for what shakes out,' probably applies, since there's absolutely nothing to be done about it at this time.

[Drummond]

Boris has left St Thomas's Hospital today. He isn't yet returning to work .. he will spend some time at 'Chequers', which is a Prime Ministerial retreat (a rough equivalent to your Camp David).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chequers

Chequers2.jpg

He broadcast a speech -- covered by LBC. The presenter at the time, Ian Payne, said he found it very moving -- and he 'never finds speeches moving'. I heard most of it. Boris is thoroughly praising the NHS, saying that if it hadn't been for the staff there (he singled out two nurses for particular praise) he was sure he wouldn't now be alive.

Anyway, he SOUNDS healthy enough. Needs a lot more recuperation, obviously, but is now well & truly on the mend.

GREAT NEWS !!!

[tailfins]

The virus came from China, yes. But I was unaware that it held Chinese nationality, or for that matter, any nationalistic characteristics of any kind. I'm unaware of one instance where the virus has ever produced a Chinese passport ...

.... then again, I suppose you could argue that it was an illegal immigrant ...

Well, anyway. We don't know how near Boris came to dying from it, and indeed, whether the nursing he received did actually SAVE his life. But in case you think otherwise, Covid-19 DOES KILL. Look to statistics coming out of New York if you don't believe me !

Show me statistical instances of toxic bosses that have kill rates remotely comparable to the figures you'll unearth !

Simple fact: the less seriously we take Covid-19, the greater the freedom it'll have to kill. Lockdowns are very far from ideal. But I'm sure there are already people alive who'd have died without them.

I'm just following President Trump's lead. We can also call it the Kung Flu or the Kung Fu Crud.

[Drummond]

This Twitter link should allow you to see & hear Boris's speech, given just after he left hospital.

It's a great one !

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/sta...36590482243585

[tailfins]

Boris has left St Thomas's Hospital today. He isn't yet returning to work .. he will spend some time at 'Chequers', which is a Prime Ministerial retreat (a rough equivalent to your Camp David).


He broadcast a speech -- covered by LBC. The presenter at the time, Ian Payne, said he found it very moving -- and he 'never finds speeches moving'. I heard most of it. Boris is thoroughly praising the NHS, saying that if it hadn't been for the staff there (he singled out two nurses for particular praise) he was sure he wouldn't now be alive.

Anyway, he SOUNDS healthy enough. Needs a lot more recuperation, obviously, but is now well & truly on the mend.

GREAT NEWS !!!

I'm glad there are right-leaning leaders full of piss an' vinegar emerging. I put Boris Johnson, Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, and Scott Morrison all in this category. Three out of four of these represent a rising Anglosphere on the world stage.

While socialized medicine isn't a good thing, I understand Johnson's praise here given that it's the NHS who the doctors and nurses are working for.

This Twitter link should allow you to see & hear Boris's speech, given just after he left hospital.

It's a great one !

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/sta...36590482243585

Here is the video directly for those who don't want to donate mouse clicks to Twatter.

[Drummond]

I'm glad there are right-leaning leaders full of piss an' vinegar emerging. I put Boris Johnson, Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, and Scott Morrison all in this category. Three out of four of these represent a rising Anglosphere on the world stage.

While socialized medicine isn't a good thing, I understand Johnson's praise here given that it's the NHS who the doctors and nurses are working for.

Perhaps it'll prove to be a comparative rarity, Tailfins, but you've come up with a post I completely agree with.

Johnson has yet to be fully tested (though he's certainly got enough of a test to be going on with !). But he'll emerge as one of the all-time 'greats', in my opinion.

His praise for the NHS was enthusiastically given, unstinting in the extreme, undoubtedly heartfelt, borne of immense gratitude for the care he received at their hands. Totally understandable.

It's also a fact that the British will never turn against the NHS. It's hardwired into our society ... has been, ever since 1948. Any politician who worked for its demise, would instead be committing political suicide. So, Boris's unstinting praise will have that political dimension to it as well.

For myself, I only support the NHS because it's all we've got. I regard the NHS as competent, but it rarely manages to be more than that. It does work. But, HOW does it work ?

It works because of the massive amounts of money poured into it. It works because - to serve a population of around 65 million people ! - it still manages to be one of the biggest employers on the planet !

It works by recruiting nurses and doctors from overseas .. reducing each country's own resources, which is hardly ideal !!

The NHS is one of those broadly Socialist ideas which look great on paper, can be convincingly sold to people through propaganda, and yet, once you APPLY it, its faults and inefficiencies come to the fore.

We in the UK are stuck with it ... but I wish we weren't. It gobbles up money out of all proportion to what it can usefully give. As mighty as the US economy is, I think that if the US adopted its equivalent, (a) it'd cripple you, because your version would have to be capable of being several times larger, and (b) its usage of resources would also be correspondingly huge, impoverishing the entire world !!

[Drummond]

I'm just following President Trump's lead. We can also call it the Kung Flu or the Kung Fu Crud.

My suggestion: just call it what it IS. How about that ?

They say that the birthplace of democracy was in Greece ... specifically, Athens. Do you call all democratic systems 'The Greek System' .. ?

If I thought attributing racial characteristics to Covid-19 was at all appropriate, I'd take a leaf out of Prince Philip's gargantuan repertoire of entertaining gaffes, and ask whether the virus was 'slitty eyed'. Of course, it'd be a total nonsense to do that ... JUST AS ... it's nonsense to attribute nationality to the disease itself.

It happens to have come from China. Specifically in terms of that simple fact, AS a fact ..... so what ?