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Cage Match?
Can we pick the best Liberal Debater here, and the best Conservative debater here and have them go-at-it, debate style?
Jim or MtnBiker or Me can pick a topic. Both sides get 10 replies to prove their point, and the winner is voted upon by the forum members?
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
Over 40 Victim of Fate
Sounds like an interesting idea. There would have to be rules. The use of blogs would need to be off limits. No Newsbusters, Little Green Footballs, HuffPo, DailyKos, and the like. Only recognized news sources for references, no use of complete stories except as references. Only the use of one's own words should be allowed. I realize that this may prove to be somewhat prohibitive to those not used to cognitive thought, but the simple exchange of articles, ideas, and polls written and conducted by others does not a debate make.
"I am allergic to piety, it makes me break out in rash judgements." - Penn Jillette
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"The man who invented the telescope found out more about heaven than the closed eyes of prayer ever discovered." - Robert G. Ingersoll
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Good rules.
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
Hahaha! LULzzzzz
How would you ensure that it would stay between the two debaters and not get bogged down in ad hominem posted by other members? And how would you measure a clear winner?Originally Posted by dmp
Good rules.
Over 40 Victim of Fate
Unless you can lock out members not participating, monitering by an administator would probably suffice. Said member would be able to delete posts that do not belong.
This would be the more difficult question to answer. A polling system would be the most obvious choice, but then you would have to rely on the intellectual honesty of our members. Would you, or anyone reading this, have the ability to rise above party affiliation, personal grudges, and personal beliefs to vote for the participant who made the best argument? Whether or not you believed their opinion was right?
"I am allergic to piety, it makes me break out in rash judgements." - Penn Jillette
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"The man who invented the telescope found out more about heaven than the closed eyes of prayer ever discovered." - Robert G. Ingersoll
High Desert
It could be monitored by staff, only the premitted debators could post, other posts would be removed. Or a user group could be created for only the participating members would have posting access.
Senior Member
A vote system - or a decision among the staff? We could be impartial and decide a winner of a debate EVEN IF we disagreed with the winner's position. Perhaps that's it - perhaps we Assign a position. The Liberal must debate what we think is the CONSERVATIVE position, and the Conservative must debate from liberal standpoint?
Thoughts?
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
Over 40 Victim of Fate
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"I am allergic to piety, it makes me break out in rash judgements." - Penn Jillette
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"The man who invented the telescope found out more about heaven than the closed eyes of prayer ever discovered." - Robert G. Ingersoll
Gunny's nightmare
KISS. Have a parrallel thread for comments from the peanut gallery.
Gunny's nightmare
Why limit it to staff?A vote system - or a decision among the staff? We could be impartial and decide a winner of a debate EVEN IF we disagreed with the winner's position. Perhaps that's it - perhaps we Assign a position. The Liberal must debate what we think is the CONSERVATIVE position, and the Conservative must debate from liberal standpoint?
Thoughts?
Over 40 Victim of Fate
You might consider twenty four hours for preparation, research, and such. Perhaps a weekend cage match?
Last edited by hjmick; 09-11-2007 at 03:57 PM.
"I am allergic to piety, it makes me break out in rash judgements." - Penn Jillette
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"The man who invented the telescope found out more about heaven than the closed eyes of prayer ever discovered." - Robert G. Ingersoll
Hahaha! LULzzzzz
I like the idea. This could be very interesting.A vote system - or a decision among the staff? We could be impartial and decide a winner of a debate EVEN IF we disagreed with the winner's position. Perhaps that's it - perhaps we Assign a position. The Liberal must debate what we think is the CONSERVATIVE position, and the Conservative must debate from liberal standpoint?
Thoughts?
left coast isolationist
gop jeff vs truthmatters
"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."
~Albert Camus
Senior Member
I do't think it will be interesting at all....
UNLESS....
IT IS NO HOLDS BARRED....
in other words, all media is game, not just the main stream media, which is limited to just "liberal" views according to the cons....
If the weekly standard or fox is going to be used then the huffington post should be allowed........
But truely, all media should be allowed in the debate and we, the readers can make up our own minds, about the source and its reliability..... that would be the only "fair" way, imo.
High Desert
I like the idea of keeping outside sources to a minimum. The debate would be about presenting one's position not just siting news articles and op-eds.
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