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    Wal Mart should equip their stores with these , let them roam the parking lot and chase off people who aren't dressed appropriately for being out in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    Wal Mart should equip their stores with these , let them roam the parking lot and chase off people who aren't dressed appropriately for being out in public.
    I was wondering what a 30-30 Win round would do to one of those. Fired from the appropriate "social distance", of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Let's follow Singapore. Hell. Let's start caning people who don't social distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I was wondering what a 30-30 Win round would do to one of those. Fired from the appropriate "social distance", of course

    The robot dog, or the person who came to Wal Mart inappropriately dressed for being in public?


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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    The robot dog, or the person who came to Wal Mart inappropriately dressed for being in public?

    I may snicker, roll my eyes, laugh at or be disgusted by the way some people dress, but I don't think that is a capital offense.

    On the other hand, if some idjit has his robot floating in the air, walking, or stalking around my house I hope said idjit bought the insurance. I wouldn't think twice about blowing away a mechanical spy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I was wondering what a 30-30 Win round would do to one of those. Fired from the appropriate "social distance", of course
    400 meters should suffice
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSM View Post
    400 meters should suffice
    400 meters with a 30-30 would be a miracle shot. At that range you better bust out the .300 magnum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    400 meters with a 30-30 would be a miracle shot. At that range you better bust out the .300 magnum.
    ooops my bad .... read 30-30 and brain said 308.... sorry. 30-30 would about 200 meters max! .308 should be good to at least 800 (if not more) bullet drop for 30-30 would over 6 feet at 400 meters and probably take a week to get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSM View Post
    I've done it more than once....but maybe I am just lucky
    I definitely won't call you a liar, but I will say that you know guns and you know that a 400 yard shot with a 3030 is a very risky shot. For any shooter, the ammo just doesn't have the punch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSM View Post
    400 meters should suffice
    That sounds like a challenge, Sergeant Major. 400 meters with a carbine and open sights. Just a little Kentucky windage ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSM View Post
    ooops my bad .... read 30-30 and brain said 308.... sorry. 30-30 would about 200 meters max! .308 should be good to at least 800 (if not more) bullet drop for 30-30 would over 6 feet at 400 meters and probably take a week to get there.
    .308 using an M-14 is good for 1000 m in the offhand (standing -- don't know what other services call it). That's match shooting in the Marines.
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    The 30-30 I usually shoot at 100 m because I basically bought it as a big handgun. And the closest range only has 100 m Seriously, if I want a rifle, I have those too

    Either way, only the knowledge that it would not be beyond them to call it killing a police officer in the line of duty, would stop me from shooting one of those damned things.
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    Lee- Enfield .303 No. 4 Mark II-- ten rounds fully loaded.

    The Lee–Enfield is a bolt-action, magazine-fed, repeating rifle that served as the main firearm used by the military forces of the British Empire and Commonwealth during the first half of the 20th century. It was the British Army's standard rifle from its official adoption in 1895 until 1957.[10][11] The WWI versions are often referred to as the "SMLE", which is short for the common "Short, Magazine, Lee–Enfield" variant.

    A redesign of the Lee–Metford (adopted by the British Army in 1888), the Lee–Enfield superseded the earlier Martini–Henry, Martini–Enfield, and Lee–Metford rifles. It featured a ten-round box magazine which was loaded with the .303 British cartridge manually from the top, either one round at a time or by means of five-round chargers. The Lee–Enfield was the standard issue weapon to rifle companies of the British Army and other Commonwealth nations in both the First and Second World Wars (these Commonwealth nations included Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India and South Africa, among others).[12] Although officially replaced in the UK with the L1A1 SLR in 1957, it remained in widespread British service until the early/mid-1960s and the 7.62 mm L42A1 sniper variant remained in service until the 1990s. As a standard-issue infantry rifle, it is still found in service in the armed forces of some Commonwealth nations,[13] notably with the Bangladesh Police, which makes it the second longest-serving military bolt-action rifle still in official service, after the Mosin–Nagant (Mosin-Nagant receivers are used in the Finnish 7.62 Tkiv 85).[14] The Canadian Rangers unit still use Enfield rifles, with plans to replace the weapons sometime in 2017–2018 with the new Sako-designed Colt Canada C19.[15] Total production of all Lee–Enfields is estimated at over 17 million rifles.[8]

    Short Magazine Lee–Enfield Mk I (1903), Swedish Army Museum, Stockholm
    Type Bolt-action rifle
    Place of origin United Kingdom
    Service history
    In service MLE: 1895–1926
    SMLE: 1904–present
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    Production history
    Designer James Paris Lee, RSAF Enfield
    Produced
    MLE: 1895–1904
    SMLE: 1904–present
    No. built 17,000,000+[8]
    Variants See Models/marks
    Specifications
    Mass
    4.19 kg (9.24 lb) (Mk I)
    3.96 kg (8.73 lb) (Mk III)
    4.11 kg (9.06 lb) (No. 4)
    Length
    MLE: 49.6 in (1,260 mm)
    SMLE No. 1 Mk III: 44.57 in (1,132 mm)
    SMLE No. 4 Mk I: 44.45 in (1,129 mm)
    LEC: 40.6 in (1,030 mm)
    SMLE No. 5 Mk I: 39.5 in (1,003 mm)
    Barrel length
    MLE: 30.2 in (767 mm)
    SMLE No. 1 Mk III: 25.2 in (640 mm)
    SMLE No. 4 Mk I: 25.2 in (640 mm)
    LEC: 21.2 in (540 mm)
    SMLE No. 5 Mk I: 18.8 in (480 mm)
    Cartridge .303 Mk VII SAA Ball
    Action Bolt-action
    Rate of fire 20–30 aimed shots per minute
    Muzzle velocity 744 m/s (2,441 ft/s)
    Effective firing range 550 yd (503 m)[9]
    Maximum firing range 3,000 yd (2,743 m)[9]
    Feed system 10-round magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clips
    Sights Sliding ramp rear sights, fixed-post front sights, "dial" long-range volley; telescopic sights on sniper models. Fixed and adjustable aperture sights inc
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    Huge fan of this rifle, I have shot mine at least once a year, hunted with it several times, since the early 90's... --Tyr
    Last edited by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot; 05-14-2020 at 05:40 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSM View Post
    ooops my bad .... read 30-30 and brain said 308.... sorry. 30-30 would about 200 meters max! .308 should be good to at least 800 (if not more) bullet drop for 30-30 would over 6 feet at 400 meters and probably take a week to get there.

    LOL I was wondering, I was like wait a minute ........

    A brain fart is the only explanation, because I KNOW you know firearms.

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